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Starfield is living rent-free in some of y'all's minds. Let it fucking go, haha.

Great month all-around.

Starfield isn't rent free, Starfield is getting evicted.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Surprised Spider-man 2 wasn't most played.

 

[DForce]

Haha, fam not everyone in the Xbox community made those claims.

Most of you got wayyy too caught up on what a bunch of weirdo-ass people with plastic box personas said. They're not a part of any real "community."

I never even suggested everyone in the Xbox community made those claims, just enough for people to remember it and then point it out later.

If you want to complain, then complain to the people who hyped Starfield and tried to throw it in the faces of PS fans.

 

[H-I-M]

Haha, fam not everyone in the Xbox community made those claims.

Most of you got wayyy too caught up on what a bunch of weirdo-ass people with plastic box personas said. They're not a part of any real "community."

But why does it bother you that a few people are bringing up Starfield's lackluster performance?

Phil himself and his team have been talking about this game for several years now and you expect us to move on already?
(tho it does seem like the public has already move on from it, I'll give you that).

 

[Sweden85]

Xbox as a console is dying..which means more buying of publishers for M$oft. :-(

 

[OmegaSupreme]

They need another acquisition! Stat!

 

[FlyyGOD]

Starfield went from #1 in September to #14 in October ? That's some impressive longevity and legs.

Meanwhile Spiderman debuted at #3 1st month on sell.

 

[yazenov]

Guys where is Forza? Do we have the top 40 charts so we can check where it is ?

Edit : just saw it in the 17th place. It was too far on the bottom I couldn't see it. My bad.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Jesus Christ WHERE IS STARFIELD IT'S ONLY BEEN A MONTH!!?

Guys where is Forza? Do we have the top 40 charts so we can check where it is ?

It's # 17. Almost just missed the Top 20, but it's in there.

 

[Mr Moose]

According to Mat Switch, it was 2nd in number of units in October, and little is said about the results of Forza, it almost didn't even enter the top 20...

Could've sworn it said Xbox was 2nd in the OP
Damn, that's rough.

 

[ulantan]

Haha, fam not everyone in the Xbox community made those claims.

Most of you got wayyy too caught up on what a bunch of weirdo-ass people with plastic box personas said. They're not a part of any real "community."

Personally I just find it funny that in court Microsoft stated that they were fear of Starfield timed exclusivity caused them to buy zenimax for 7 billion dollars. Making these sales results the funniest shit all year.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Starfield with those “Most important rpg of all time” legs

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Surprised Spider-man 2 wasn't most played.

Single player games aren't and never will be the most played games in any month ever again.

 

[FrankWza]

But why does it bother you that a few people are bringing up Starfield's lackluster performance?

Phil himself and his team have been talking about this game for several years now and you expect us to move on already?
(tho it does seem like the public has already move on from it, I'll give you that).

"Timeless". "Evergreen" . "Forever game". "plenty of legs"

 

[StealthGoblin]

Does Forza normally sell well in the US or is it more of a European game?

Forza doesn't sell well normally. Stack it alongside GT in comparable gens and it just doesn't move units as well as most expect.

It feels like more of a vanity project or a keeping up with the Joneses game (main series). Horizon is the one that does really well.

 

[Elios83]

Playstation continues to dominate and Spiderman 2 did amazingly well especially considering its PS5 exclusive status.
Switch did well for its age.
Xbox is struggling a lot.....hardware sales again below Switch, no legs for Starfield (due to Gamepass and poor critical reception), Forza was a non event.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Unsurprising result at the very top. But AC Mirage surprised me. Good performance.

Also, is Starfield (from 1 to 14) the biggest drop for AAA games month-over-month? NFL was 4, is 4. FC 24 was 3, is 5. MK1 was 2, is 6. Starfield was 1, is 14.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Wait, more people played Gotham Knights than the new Forza?

Gotham Nights was included in Gamepass and PS+ extra.

 

[Mr Moose]

Meanwhile Spiderman debuted at #3 1st month on sell.

You should probably check again.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I guess Epic has not reported Alan Wake 2 sales (same as CDProjekt which do not report its games digital sales to NPD)?

Otherwise it will be very worrying....

As predicted Starfield will have no legs at all

I said before that if it does have legs, it would be on the PC side, but it seems even the PC audience isn't very interested in the game long-term. Modders have already said it doesn't seem like a game that's mod-friendly at all. Almost get the feeling Bethesda have done that on purpose to funnel modders to their own Softworks subscription or something.

Even with aggressive discounts, without much support from modders I can't see Starfield having a big explosion in sales or long-term strong tail. It'd be up to Bethesda to make some extremely strong content DLC for it and, well, there isn't much faith they can pull it off. This game may not even break 10 million copies lifetime (or at least, by the end of this generation).

Very surprising, and guess goes to show how strong Spiderman 2's sales really were in October (in a good way).

Unsurprising result at the very top. But AC Mirage surprised me. Good performance.

Also, is Starfield (from 1 to 14) the biggest drop for AAA games month-over-month? NFL was 4, is 4. FC 24 was 3, is 5. MK1 was 2, is 6. Starfield was 1, is 14.

Maybe. I think Halo Infinite had the bigger MoM drop tho. IIRC, it was completely absent from January NPD and debuted at #2 for December '22.

 

[H-I-M]

Xbox expected Starfield to sell 10 million copies on PS5 but decided it's worth more as an exclusive

Source: https://news.yahoo.com/xbox-expected-starfield-sell-10-144156712.html Microsoft estimated it could get 10 million Starfield sales on PlayStation, but – surprise – opted to make it to an Xbox console exclusive instead. Yesterday, July 13, a US court released its findings from the case...

www.neogaf.com

Never forget.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Single player games aren't and never will be the most played games in any month ever again.

That just won't be true, IMO. Starfield was number #1 most played on Xbox in September according to these charts, and I assumed Spider-man 2 would do the same based on the sales. It was released Oct 20th, though, so it only had 11 days to do these numbers. I wonder if it would have ended up #1 most played if it released earlier in the month like Starfield.

 

[graywolf323]

Meanwhile Spiderman debuted at #3 1st month on sell.

why are you lying? it’s debuted at #1 just like Starfield did

 

[Mr Moose]

That just won't be true, IMO. Starfield was number #1 most played on Xbox in September according to these charts, and I assumed Spider-man 2 would do the same based on the sales. It was released Oct 20th, though, so it only had 11 days to do these numbers. I wonder if it would have ended up #1 most played if it released earlier in the month like Starfield.

No, it wasn't.

It also didn't have Call of Duty beta to go against.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Xbox series is a total flop. How you gonna get outsold by switch on its 6th year? That's embarrassing.

 

[DForce]

Meanwhile Spiderman debuted at #3 1st month on sell.

Number 1 for October
Number 4 Year-to-Date.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Xbox series is a total flop. How you gonna get outsold by switch on its 6th year? That's embarrassing.

Xbox management:

 

[SEGAvangelist]

No, it wasn't.

It also didn't have Call of Duty beta to go against.

Weird. Current charts show it was #1 last month.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Meanwhile Spiderman debuted at #3 1st month on sell.

Spider-Man debuted #1 this month. It's literally in the title Also, it is already the 4th biggest-selling game after selling for only 8 days on just the PS5, comfortably beating Starfield that launched on Xbox and PC.

 

[Flutta]

Starfield is living rent-free in some of y'all's minds. Let it fucking go, haha.

Great month all-around.

Bro Starfield is ded

#DEAD
#D.E.A.D

 

[demigod]

Does Forza normally sell well in the US or is it more of a European game?

Wait, The Crew outsold Forza Motorsport's debut in US? Turn 10 is toast.

Forza Motorsport never does well. You only see it charting because it gets added to bundles.

 

[Mr Moose]

Weird. Current charts show it was #1 last month.

That is weird, someone has fucked up somewhere *Looks at NPD Mat*

 

[Reave]

But why does it bother you that a few people are bringing up Starfield's lackluster performance?

Phil himself and his team have been talking about this game for several years now and you expect us to move on already?
(tho it does seem like the public has already move on from it, I'll give you that).

What you wrote in parentheses was... my whole point?

Starfield came and went. So, I don't get the boner some of y'all still have for clapping back at a bunch of Xbox trolls. They're just a loud minority that overhyped the game. It's not that serious, haha.

 

[TheBomb]

Xbox series is a total flop. How you gonna get outsold by switch on its 6th year? That's embarrassing.

Nintendo releasing games. Lol

 

[SEGAvangelist]

That is weird, someone has fucked up somewhere *Looks at NPD Mat*

Maybe just a typo on the October chart?

 

[Mr Moose]

Maybe just a typo on the October chart?

Could be, not sure, I am too lazy to Tweet/X(?) him. If someone else can be arsed finding out...

 

[Heisenberg007]

And some people in the other thread were saying that Xbox had a better 2023 than PlayStation.

 

[Reave]

Xbox series is a total flop. How you gonna get outsold by switch on its 6th year? That's embarrassing.

Worse yet, when the next Nintendo console drops next year, it's going to be absolute pandemonium. Microsoft is going to have to get very clever to avoid getting left even further in the dust. Price cuts, a free year of Game Pass, etc.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

And some people in the other thread were saying that Xbox had a better 2023 than PlayStation.

Opinions. Wow. How do those work?

 

[Luminoth-4545]

Not a good month for Hardware, it seems everything was down quite a bit year on year.

September estimates
PS5: 320K
NSW: 210K
XBS: 200K

YTD 2023 estimates
PS5: 4.15M
NSW: 2.98M
XBS: 2.17M

LTD estimates
NSW: 42.39M
PS5: 16.05M
XBS: 11.87M

With November and December remaining of 2023 it's looking like 7M for PS5, 5M for Switch and 4M for XBS for the full year

 

[Heisenberg007]

Opinions. Wow. How do those work?

Opinions in the face of overwhelming evidence are ... incorrect opinions.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Not a good month for Hardware, it seems everything was down quite a bit year on year.

September estimates
PS5: 320K
NSW: 210K
XBS: 200K

YTD 2022 estimates
PS5: 4.15M
NSW: 2.98M
XBS: 2.17M

LTD estimates
NSW: 42.39M
PS5: 16.05M
XBS: 11.87M

Is it YTD 2022 or YTD 2023?

 

[TheGodfather07]

Nintendo releasing games. Lol

What about gamepass? The so called best value in gaming that was supposed to take over the industry and put sony and Nintendo on their knees if they didn't follow? It's all I heard before the gen started. Fast forward 3 years and xbox is in decline and getting outsold by a 6 year old switch and slaughtered by the PS5.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Star Wars Survivor silently selling shit tons of copies despite being a buggy mess. Loved the first one, can't wait to get to this one too.

 

[FrankWza]

Opinions in the face of overwhelming evidence are ... incorrect opinions.

Or, they're spokesmen

 

[StereoVsn]

Is there reason for such a large PS5 sales decrease be last year and that’s with SpiderMan releasing?

Did Sony have a CoD bundle or something?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Opinions in the face of overwhelming evidence are ... incorrect opinions.

The thread has a poll, which means it's an opinion thread. That means the question is pretty much, "Which games did you like more?" 1 in 5 here at GAF based on the poll like the Xbox releases better. Also, kinda stupid to bring that thread up in a sales thread.

Or, they're spokesmen

Yes. 20% of GAF posters are Xbox spokesmen.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Is there reason for such a large PS5 sales decrease be last year and that’s with SpiderMan releasing?

Did Sony have a CoD bundle or something?

Probably low shipments of the PS5 because of the new model. They'll make up for it next month

 

[StereoVsn]

Probably low shipments of the PS5 because of the new model. They'll make up for it next month

But I mean there were PS5s in store everywhere and online. I don’t think there were any shortages.

 

[Luigi Mario]

Great openings for both Spider-Man 2 and SMBW, though I'm a little surprised that Mario couldn't crack the “Top 20” chart even without its digital numbers included.
Also, it looks like DForce was very accurate with his Starfield prediction in last month's thread.