NonPhixion
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Well done Steam users! We certainly gave the Xboxers something to be proud of this month. They owe us all a Thank You!
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Circana (NPD) September 2023: #1 Starfield #2 Mortal Kombat 1 #3 EA FC24; PS5 #1 Units + Revenue, XBS #2 Units + Revenue
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Unknown?
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If not, it will be soon.
yazenov
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Last Hearth
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Wow, I don’t usually follow sales, but BG3 not even among the top 20 games sold in 2023?
jm89
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Larian games aren't tracked by any of the sales trackers. A shame really, one of the biggest realeses missing from the charts.
TheGodfather07
Member
Man You PlayStation fanboys take starfield very personally.
Spider-Man will win October and November.. it’s okay
You don't think it's poor that xbox couldn't sell more during a big exclusive launch? Don't take it as a personal attack. Its simple facts. Are you telling me it's a good thing that xbox got outsold almost 200k by its competitor during one of its biggest exclusive games in years? Is it a good thing that xbox is up only 12k yoy in the same month when there was major shortages and no big exclusive last September? Simple facts my guy. Imagine if it was the other way round. People would be saying PS was on its deathbed. Why should xbox get a pass ? Because fanboys like you get triggered by reality?
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Last Hearth
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It says they are tracking Steam so how come they can’t track BG3.
jm89
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They are tracking steam but it only works if the publisher is sharing that information.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Starfield's success causing GAF servers to overload 
GHG
Member
"Publisher Larian Studios is not a member of the Digital Leader Panel, therefore digital sales of Baldur's Gate 3 are not reflected in the best-selling titles chart"
Of course, however it's not an apples to apples comparison as noted above, especially considering the fact that Bethesda Rpgs heavily skew towards PC, more so than most other titles that typically top sales charts.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Gran Turismo are always slow burners.
Fun fact: GT7 was Sony's biggest seller in august and september in the USA (i won't count SM2 bundle codes since the game releases in a few days only)
Luminoth-4545
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These are estimations i use from Installbase, since they have the NPD numbers for PS4 and Xbox One up to and including 2016 then we basically know the YTD and LTD numbers at the end of July, because the July report announced that PS5 was 5% ahead of PS4 launch aligned and XBS was 10% behind XBO aligned and The Switch had Just passed Wii's lifetime at the end of July (which is 41.78M) then i just added the estimations from welfare (Installbase sales expert) for August and September.Posted in here a few times
July 31, 2016
PS4 : 14.18 m
XB1 : 12.40 m
Dec 31, 2022
PS5 : 11.90m
XBS : 9.70m
NSW : 39.41m
July 31, 2023
PS5 : + 5% PS4 = 14.89 m (YTD 2.99m) + 360k (Aug) + 480k (Sep) = 3.83m YTD
XBS : - 10% XBO = 11.16 m (YTD 1.46m) + 210K (Aug) + 300K (Sep) = 1.97m YTD
NSW: > Wii 41.78m = YTD >2.37m + 200k (Aug) + 200k (Sep) = >2.77m YTD
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JackMcGunns
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MikeM
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Anyone with a PC won’t buy an Xbox. Any Xbox game is on PC day and date.
There’s a reason why PS moves unit when it comes to big launches- can’t get it anywhere else.
MacReady13
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Funny that I hear defenders of game pass continuously say that you can still buy games on Xbox, yet apart from PC gamers, no one on Xbox (where they push game pass hardest) are BUYING GAMES! I truly wonder why that is...?!?
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Bruh, the game also released on Gamepass. If console sales were as important to Microsoft as it is to say, Sony, then they wouldnt have released on Gamepass. Its still selling an ass load and doing very well. And it isnt even close to done selling copies.
Y'all will literally, conveniently forget whole ass point of facts to paint this "failure" narrative.
graywolf323
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Without numbers, this may as well be a passing tumbleweed. We have no clue if it is selling "an ass load". We just know it sold enough in September to lead the chart for the month.
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Who exactly isnt buying the g.........Lol. You know what? Im good. Have at it my guy.
BootsLoader
Banned
Wow so many people bought a new PC?!?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
We also have a big list of games it has already outsold this year.
Why are you making an issue out of nothing here?
Circana / NPD have stopped reporting exact figures for year(s) now. Take it up with them.
Thirty7ven
Banned
If we look at number of players on steam it would seem like BG3 sold more than Starfield, and it was the top game on PSN last month.
At least for the year I mean. BG3 had a peak of 870k players on steam, Starfield’s was 330k. Just for reference…
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Without numbers you have no clue its NOT selling well either. I'll say this; there's more evidence that its selling well than not.
MikeM
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Most people on PC don’t buy games on the Xbox app, so MS loses out on the revenue share cut to Steam too.
I did. Sold my Xbox and built a PC (5600/6700xt). Now its upgraded to a 7600x/7900xt build
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
PS5 still #1.
Well, that's pretty much it then.
Also, Starfield at #7 on the yearly list is bad performance. By EOY, when AC Mirage, FC 24, Spider-Man 2, AW2, COD MW3, and Avatar etc. get included in these lists, Starfield will likely be out of the top 10.
Most importantly, it didn't sell the Xbox consoles and subscription also didn't grow? lol.
Also happy to see FC24's performance. I can't believe I'm rooting for EA here lol.
Well, that's pretty much it then.
Also, Starfield at #7 on the yearly list is bad performance. By EOY, when AC Mirage, FC 24, Spider-Man 2, AW2, COD MW3, and Avatar etc. get included in these lists, Starfield will likely be out of the top 10.
Most importantly, it didn't sell the Xbox consoles and subscription also didn't grow? lol.
Also happy to see FC24's performance. I can't believe I'm rooting for EA here lol.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
AC Mirage and AW2 aren't gonna be burning the charts.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
It's still selling an assload? Where are you getting your data from?
Steam sales declined after the first 3 weeks.
It's currently 28th on Steam's top sellers and 31st by Revenue in the US. This is the biggest platform for Starfield. We're probably going to see a decline where it drops to around 11 on NPD charts the following month.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I think you're right about AW2, but AC Mirage might end up surprising us. Let's see.
chilichote
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It would be interesting to know how Starfield would have sold on the PS5...^^
Luigi Mario
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Looks like releasing the Spider-Man 2 console over a month before the game’s release worked out well for Sony, the bundle did some heavy lifting for PS5 numbers in September.
Also, great hold for Armored Core 6. I thought it would be out of the software charts in its second month.
Also, great hold for Armored Core 6. I thought it would be out of the software charts in its second month.
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VideoGameEnjoyer
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So I'm guessing everyone who bought early access, including gamepass players get added to the sales charts?
Tiago Rodrigues
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The one thing that this release made me realize is that MS didn't win anything from keeping this away from Playstation.
Xbox consoles didn't make more sales because of it. If you wanted to play on PC you wouldn't buy a PS5 anyway....so the only thing they got was less game sales and cut around 40/50M potential buyers from them.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
call me whatever makes you feel better. I’ve been called a fanboy of every console at one time or another.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
That was a way too long of post for what I said. Best part is I don’t even like starfield
but geez let it have its only win it will ever have! “ It’s dead Jim “
MacReady13
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Clearly you didn't read what I wrote- I said ON XBOX people clearly aren't buying games (where they push game pass on their front page every fucking time you turn on the console), but you continue defending that lovely big corporation, my guy.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
What's funny about this is that in the past, people have said in the past that a game flopped or sold poorly because the legs were poor despite being in the top 10 best-sellers list.
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demigod
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You’re right, it does.
Sleepwalker
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EAFC24 launched on the 29th of september so its 3rd with 3 days of sales lol
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
"Feel better". I mean, you're out here calling folks fanboys and claiming people are taking things personally. All your own issue, my friend.call me whatever makes you feel better. I’ve been called a fanboy of every console at one time or another.
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chilichote
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I thought so too. A Pyrrhic victory - if at all^^
HeWhoWalks
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But that's just it, you said it's selling "massive numbers" with nothing to back that up. I never said it was selling bad/good. Could be bad/good/massive. We don't know.
We just know that it sold well enough to lead the NPD chart for September.
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StealthGoblin
Banned
I'm not into either of those games but some smart marketing around those will help. Marketing outside of the US has been dreadful.
Make the case for gamepass with facts - how much money would a user have saved last year with the games included?
Make a big deal of the ABK games. Have ads specifically for the older COD games on Gamepass.
Sony's year is currently light so now is the time to press home anything that's a differentiator
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
"Issue"? "Out of nothing"?
This is a discussion board my man, and we are discussing. Not sure what you're on about.
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Luminoth-4545
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I will add this info to the OP
Full Estimations for 2023
Results for 2022 (Switch monthly numbers are Welfare's estimations but it's total is from NPD. PS5 and XBS monthly and total numbers are from NPD)
2022 NPD Yearly and LTD
Full Estimations for 2023
| Month | PS5 | XBS | NSW |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jan-23 | 430,000 | 200,000 | 280,000 |
| Feb-23 | 560,000 | 240,000 | 290,000 |
| Mar-23 | 660,000 | 280,000 | 340,000 |
| Apr-23 | 360,000 | 180,000 | 420,000 |
| May-23 | 270,000 | 160,000 | 450,000 |
| Jun-23 | 430,000 | 240,000 | 350,000 |
| Jul-23 | 270,000 | 160,000 | 240,000 |
| Aug-23 | 360,000 | 210,000 | 200,000 |
| Sep-23 | 480,000 | 300,000 | 200,000 |
| YTD | 3,830,000 | 1,970,000 | 2,770,000 |
Results for 2022 (Switch monthly numbers are Welfare's estimations but it's total is from NPD. PS5 and XBS monthly and total numbers are from NPD)
| Month | PS5 | XBS | NSW |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jan-22 | 369,000 | 307,000 | 270,000 |
| Feb-22 | 128,000 | 261,000 | 410,000 |
| Mar-22 | 282,000 | 489,000 | 540,000 |
| Apr-22 | 234,000 | 267,000 | 365,000 |
| May-22 | 119,000 | 177,000 | 270,000 |
| Jun-22 | 277,000 | 260,000 | 385,000 |
| Jul-22 | 301,000 | 147,000 | 310,000 |
| Aug-22 | 341,000 | 251,000 | 295,000 |
| Sep-22 | 494,00 | 288,000 | 325,000 |
| Oct-22 | 456,000 | 261,000 | 250,000 |
| Nov-22 | 1,328,000 | 730,000 | 920,000 |
| Dec-22 | 1,331,000 | 942,000 | 1,490,000 |
| Total | 5,660,000 | 4,480,000 | 5,830,000 |
2022 NPD Yearly and LTD
| 2022 | LTD | |
|---|---|---|
| NSW | 5,830,000 | 39,410,000 |
| PS5 | 5,660,000 | 11,900,000 |
| XBS | 4,480,000 | 9,700,000 |
| PS4 | 50,000 | 34,760,000 |
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ReBurn
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FlyyGOD
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All the money is going in Microsoft's pocket so what's your point?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Source?
The OP pictures say "full game digital". The early access (outside of buying the deluxe edition) was DLC.
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