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[Musilla]

what's going on with all the comments with instantly 10 or 20 likes after being posted saying there is no difference

Add to this that Microsoft does not have a Pro version and you already have the perfect storm

 

[SkyHighTrees]

If you need to zoom in to see the difference, then you need glasses.

Pro looks much more natural. *natural*

edit: also, the dishonesty on the salty bois is crazy man

 

[Mr Moose]

Not too good on this one ... still needs work.


Base PS5 has better effects. Hopefully it gets fixed.

Pro is on the right.

 

[AW_CL]

I'm also curious to see what Insomniac might do with a PS5 Pro fidelity mode. Mike Fitzgerald from Insomniac hinted in an interview I conducted last month that a fidelity mode with additional RT (like RT shadows or RTAO) could be in the cards for Pro owners.

Could be in the cards for Pro owners? It's simply absurd that the Fidelity Pro mode isn't available from day one at a price of $700.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

It's a enhanced version of the Ps5 version that was a remastered version of the PS4 enhanced version that was remastered from the PS3 version.

I think...

Part II was on PS3?

 

[SmokedMeat]

Vanilla PS5 looks a little sharper in some of shots I saw.

 

[diffusionx]

Add to this that Microsoft does not have a Pro version and you already have the perfect storm

it really do be like this tho

 

[tommib]

like someone said above. If they let us use Fidelity mode unlocked on PS5 Pro, it will probably reach 60 fps already.

They are just showing the difference for the PSSR.

It’s unlocked already if you have a VRR tv. I think the Pro will shine in these modes.

 

[Doggyred]

If you can't see a difference, you're blind.

Not a $700 difference

 

[Mr Moose]

Not a $700 difference

Is it a $250 difference, though?

 

[King Dazzar]

It’s unlocked already if you have a VRR tv. I think the Pro will shine in these modes.

Yeah I think it will make the world of difference in Uncharted 4 fidelity unlocked, without the need for a Pro patch.

 

[Represent.]

All this does is highlight how abysmal Performance mode looks on regular PS5 (on all games)

A quality mode guy like me sees zero difference.

Waste of a console

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Not a $700 difference

Never realized the Pro cost $1200 in the US! Shit’s getting more and more expensive by the day!

 

[Gaiff]

Not a $700 difference

Disagree. This is what it looks like running on a $0 console.

 

[Skifi28]

Not a $700 difference

There's no such thing as an objective $700 difference. For some people it's worth the price and for others it's not. The base machine is not going anywhere.

 

[SABRE220]

Honestly a pretty underwhelming upgrade, not only is the image quality boost minor but unlike other games its seems to dumb down the graphics setting from the fidelity mode to target 60fps and I feel they could have done a lot more in terms of an rt upgrade.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Not a $700 difference

 

[twilo99]

I developed severe eyestrain trying to see a significant difference between the amateur ps5 and the pro.

that's cuz u got amateur eyes

 

[Mr Moose]

Honestly a pretty underwhelming upgrade, not only is the image quality boost minor but unlike other games its seems to dumb down the graphics setting from the fidelity mood to target 60fps and I feel they could have done a lot more in terms of an rt upgrade.

I thought it was just using the perf RT mode with PSSR (same with other Pro updates, using perf modes and making it look as sharp as quality modes).

 

[RoboFu]

Pro is on the right.

Yeah and it's missing the wet fur effect.

 

[SABRE220]

I thought it was just using the perf RT mode with PSSR (same with other Pro updates, using perf modes and making it look as sharp as quality modes).

Yeah most games have been using fidelity mode graphics settings or even better targeting 60fps. This game is basically using the lowered graphics settings from performance mode and just using pssr....rather embarrassing lack of effort from a 1st party studio.

 

[Gamerguy84]

That was such a weird video. To make comparisons with one of the most impressive PS5 titles fidelity mode to PS5 pro performance mode.

Granted I quit watching DF years ago.

I also quit watching the video about 10 minutes in because it got to weird spending a lot of time and words on base PS5 victory over the two modes, again, already being one of the best looking and performing games on base PS5.

Too many questions like why ratchet, it's already great? Definitely would not convince me of buying a PRO although advertising for Sony is far from their strength and history.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

I own Ratchet and Clank on PC.


I'm looking forward to comparing the version on my Pro with what it looks like on my 4090. i did the same comparison with the base PS5 version but it will be nice to see it on the Pro


This is one of my favorite games of all time

 

[AW_CL]

A quality mode guy like me sees zero difference.

Waste of a console

I mainly play my games in Fidelity Mode and hope that other developers utilize the PS5 Pro better; otherwise, it would be the biggest waste of money I've ever spent

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

 

[Mr Moose]

Yeah and it's missing the wet fur effect.

That's just worse quality fur on the left doing that.
Here's quality mode:

 

[K' Dash]

This video is basically everything zoomed like 10 times and slowmo. No one would notice these things playing the game.

I really want to see some faceoff of 3rd party releases tbh

this is exactly what I expect from every "Pro enhanced" game, I just care about the increased FPS.

 

[DJ12]

I am totally fine and don't blame anyone who may or may not buy into this machine, I get both sides

It's the people that don't want it that seem to have the problem with others wanting it lol

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not too good on this one ... still needs work.


Base PS5 has better effects. Hopefully it gets fixed.

I think the pro looks better with less pixel artifacts. Lighting too.

Also, the scene is in real time I believe so the water is different depending on when and where the drops hit. Hence the drops on the leather strap on the Pro but not on the base, as well as the objects in the background moving around to reflect in his eyes.

 

[tommib]

They need to stop showing these games that already run great and look great. Where’s the Elden Ring quality unlocked mode? Is it stable 60 fps now? Is the quality mode in Rise of the Ronin stable 60? How’s unlocked quality in AC6? Wukong? AW2? Jedi Survivor? RE4 with ray-tracing?

They need to show games that didn’t look that great due to FSR and dropped from 60 constantly.

 

[Insane Metal]

The RT goes from lowest to normal... good

 

[Moses85]

 

[HeWhoWalks]

PS5 Pro Makes Quality, Performance Modes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard Better Than Ever

Better visuals, ray tracing in 60FPS mode

www.pushsquare.com

Check that out as well.

 

[diffusionx]

Not a $700 difference

if you're paying it for this mid game, I would agree.

Based on what we have seen though, the initial pitch from Cerny, that you will get performance framerate with fidelity detail, seems to be the case and if anything it is better than that. The previews of many games say that the PS5 Pro 60fps modes look better than the PS5 30fps ones.

 

[DeepEnigma]

PS5 Pro Makes Quality, Performance Modes in Dragon Age: The Veilguard Better Than Ever

Better visuals, ray tracing in 60FPS mode

www.pushsquare.com

Check that out as well.

In addition, the PS5 Pro allows "Raytraced Ambient Occlusion (RTAO)" to be enabled in the 60FPS Performance mode, which was previously only possible on the 30FPS Fidelity option. This option won't be available on base PS5, technical director Maciej Kurowski clarifies in a blog post.

My joke is a thing,

Top scar self shadowing.

All kidding aside, 60fps with RTAO is quite impressive.

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[JimboJones]

If you need to zoom in to see the difference, then you need glasses.

To be fair viewing on mobile phone here and it's hard to see the difference, sitting on the monitor on the other hand it's fairly clear.
The zooming does help in the case of mobile phones!

 

[bender]

I am totally fine and don't blame anyone who may or may not buy into this machine, I get both sides

Nope.

 

[Killer8]

Ratchet is probably the least impressive Pro enhanced game.

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is much more of a game changer.

 

[Evil Calvin]

PSRR is fantastic

Just looks smoothed out. .....ok............

 

[DEAD ORIGINAL]

Digital Foundry good for Insomnia.

 

[RoboFu]

That's just worse quality fur on the left doing that.
Here's quality mode:

lol no it isnt.. the DF even says its missing the wet fur effect... have you even played the game?

 

[MISTER INVEIGLER]

If you need to zoom in to see the difference, then you need glasses.

I need glasses then.

 

[shamoomoo]

This is an awful video.

He compares Fidelity mode to PS5 Pro Performance mode except one of these runs at 30 fps.

He also misses an obvious opportunity to compare the game running on a 4070 on PC... I wonder why...

Yeah. I,too thought that is weird DLSS wasn't compared to PSSR since the DF crew compare DLSS to PSSR from a trailer vs having seen Sony's form of Uber resolution in person.

 

[cyberheater]

To be honest I'd forgotten just how good this game looks anyway. I think I'm going to pick it up.

 

[shamoomoo]

Because it's a Pro video and should be compared to the regular PS5 as that's the comparison that is the most relevant?

What matters is how it stacks up to the PS5 since that's what it's upgraded from.

And? The comparison could be both of the PS5 base vs the Pro and PSSR vs DLSS as the PC comparison would be about upscaler from different tech companies.

 

[Gaiff]

And?

And that's the focus? The point of the video is to highlight the benefits the Pro brings to this game over the regular PS5. Featuring PC footage wasn't the objective and that's why it wasn't included. They will most definitely do DLSS vs PSSR comparisons in the future, but not with this one.

Most people don't actually care how it stacks up to PC.

 

[shamoomoo]

I mean .. you're kinda proving his point with this.

It's taking a 3X zoomed in image and you still have to pick specific parts of the image to show that there's an improvement. This is barely above PS5/SX comparison differences in this case.

Am I trippin'? Because the images don't look the same even though they supposed to be the same area. I'm not talking about the quality of the reflections, I'm referring to the stuff in the image. The base PS5 looks like it has more stuff while being slightly off in terms of the angle.

 

[dEvAnGeL]

It is obvious that comparing PSSR to DLSS will give the latter an advantage. DLSS was released 6 years ago and have gone through multiple revisions. The point here is that for this being Sony’s first AI upscaler, the results are incredible.

 

[Mr Moose]

lol no it isnt.. the DF even says its missing the wet fur effect... have you even played the game?

Nope I haven't. Is it missing in the video I linked as well?
Edit: Matched them up the best I could:
PS5 Perf RT / Pro / PS5 Quality