N64 expansion pak for $25~$30 back then had more impact.
This is diminishing returns cranked to 11. I fear for next gen.
Let me just reiterate your post where you literally calling people poor for calling out the PS5 Pro
You do you bro, if you want that PS5 Pro thats your choice, but there is also serious flaws with Sony ripping off their customers, we will see in the future if the returns are bigger but so far apart from Rebirth no other game has shown its worth the money.
^ Here we go again with “I have more money than you”
You literally admit the issue, its the hardware being overpriced
You’re on an internet forum, talking about video games, this sounds like you calling the “Prefects” because someone doesn’t share the same opinion as you, its petty, if you wanted people to blow smoke up your arse on your PS5 Pro purchase and that your getting two of them go on a playstation forum.
Claims I’m calling people poor yet the text does not contain the word poor. Reading comprehension fail.Let me just reiterate your post where you literally calling people poor for calling out the PS5 Pro
Worth it to you. You consider it a rip off, I don’t because I actually know how much tsmc has increased their wafer costs by. Since 2020, wafer costs are almost up 50%. We’ve also seen increases in prices for other components. Nothing about the ps5 pros price is outrageous. The only change between the pro and the base is that they increased their margin from barely breaking even on the base to making 10-15% on the pro. A completely sane margin for any business.
If that’s how you read it, then maybe it’s true for you. After all, you cooked up some backwards ass logic about me coping because I’m buying the pro. As if someone is forcing me to buy it.
I literally said people say the price is high. I never said it’s overpriced and I don’t believe it is. If I thought it was, I wouldn’t buy it.
Then don’t buy it? Go use your ps5 and continue to play all the same games the ps5 pro will get. If it’s not worth it to you, vote with your wallet and stop derailing the thread with price talk. There’s a dedicated ps5 pro thread where you can complain about the price to your hearts content. And in the end, nothing will change. As long as component prices go up, the console price will also continue to go up.
He had it pre-loaded in the holding bay. The man is the "Messi" of rapid thread creation.Damn, and I thought I was quick to make threads. Seems I still have a lot to learn from veterans likeHeisenbergFX4
I wonder why the comparison never showed the 40FPS mode.There is a quality mode at 40 fps in a 120hz tv showing there’s headroom here. It’s not performance RT, there’s no cutbacks:
Why Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart's 40fps support is a potential game-changer
A few weeks back, Insomniac patched Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart on PlayStation 5 to introduce a revised version of it…www.eurogamer.net
"Well, I can see the difference."
But what isn't coming across in this video at zoomed in, or for what they are looking at is that PSSR is effectively completely anti-aliasing the entire image by super sampling, and taking away anisotropic shortfalls of AFx4, which in of itself represents a much, much better IQ for those on poorer quality TVs - which is a surprisingly large part of the market - and represents a higher effective resolution for all.
Only if the disc drive comes preinstalled, the real downside of the drive being separate is that it isn't unifying the warranty of the console and the drive - like the status quo of consoles - where the drive in itself is useless without the console, meaning even a full refund for a faulty Pro wouldn't get you your drive purchase refunded. Which is a scam for a non-consumable peripheral so intrinsic to a console working for the majority of AAA games that get at least 50% sales on physical in the launch window.
It's a $250 difference though.
If they bring out two SKU's, then fair enough. But otherwise those people playing only digital are paying for a drive they don't need or want.
You can't make that assumption. Lots of people might have moved to digital and don't use the drive, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't like the choice or the ability to play UHD discs or PS4 games or just have the backup option to have choice to not get scammed with crappy digital prices to buy the odd game physical or knowing they have that option helps them survive the FOMO until a cheaper digital option becomes available
Math is not an opinion dude.
Except that the drive can be bought separately. Therefore my point stands - people who want physical can still buy the drive, those who don't get a cheaper solution on the hardware by not paying a higher price for something that they don't need.
You do know the PS5 Pro mode and enhancements are dependent on the game developers right???
I think a lot of folks miss this little detail, among others when discussing the Pro (or hell, any of the last few PlayStation consoles).
Ps5 digital $450 + WD Black SN850X 1tb $80 for a total of 2TB is $530. The Pro comes with 2TB ssd and the ps5 slim 1tb. The fat have even less than 1tb. So the difference is $170 in reality.
I find it concerning that, despite Cerny’s prediction, developers seem to be adding even more graphics modes to choose.
I consider 65” a bit small for today’s standards. I doubt there is a size where this becomes apparent. The Pro is for games that looks bad no matter the size of your TV. Like Space Marine.
We are a gaming forum
You’re no longer allowed to make this kind of remarks playing on a tiny 45” screen.65"?
Or even mainly my 32"You’re no longer allowed to make this kind of remarks playing on a tiny 45” screen.
Or even mainly my 32"
Not really. 4070 has 50% more VRAM which limits the 4060 to 1080P for the most part because of VRAM limitations and practically half the memory bandwidth. With dramatically reduced shaders, and RT cores and general overall performance, making it way less viable of a card for RT. And more demanding stuff like pathtracing. Which is just not going to work on a 4060. Completely different cards and performance tier.
The GPU on the Pro is substantially better than the based PS5. The main point is that you can see the difference between both GPUs and how they perform.
Dying to see how they’ll resolve Rise of the Ronin. If they just use performance to upscale with PSSR then it will be depressing. The quality mode on that game has so many features missing from performance.
As I said completely different tier of graphics card and experience. One is just simply not able to give you the same expererience as the other due to hardware limitations. Wheras the base PS5 is practically half the price of the Pro and delivers much of the same experience (with some settings) with decent capability that devs will still target that as baseline. The former still has 16GB overall GDDR6 and decent memory bandwidth.
I'd expect 45% as a starting point. It'll be interesting what happens to games with an uncapped option. I'd expect 40fps games to be getting nearer 60 without using PSSR.
It's a badge of honor....jealously is a strong emotion.
