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[tkscz]

After so much contemplation, I've decided to pursue a new challenge and a new project,

Going to take a wild guess and say she got fired for releasing a game that sold poorly and was already making plans to make a Mass Effect game in the same vein.

 

[Dazraell]

Next is awoked, I mean avowed.

Avoid

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

The worst part of this is this freak gets to leave (assuming that part is true and he wasnt fired) and now all the remaining people on that team get to deal with the fallout, which is likely the loss of their jobs.

 

[Peroroncino]

The world is healing.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

I love how these people fuck up, burn the whole studio to the ground then leave like nothing happened. Bunch of hypocrites.

You forgot a crucial part. The lecturing and offering of sage advice as you're watching the ship sink that you yourself helped set on fire. Clearly nothing can be your fault because ideological zealotry and delusion reign supreme.

 

[strike670]

What i learned is its time to speak up.
We have been too silent for too long. Doesnt mean we approved all this shit.

When you speak up and confront these people with their ideologies they just run away.

They are weak, they are dumb and they are useless.

We need strong people in charge again.
People who have the peoples best interest in mind.

Socialism my ass. I grew up in east germany. You do not want to live like that.

No one is advocating for Soviet style governance.

 

[stn]

Folks... c'mon now. I get that a lot of us are annoyed that Bioware butchered a once-great franchise. Personally, I think the game has the worst writing for an RPG that I have ever seen. I've been trying to think if there is something worse, but I'm drawing blanks. I also get that people are annoyed with Corrinne because it feels like she tried to make the game about herself more than its own world and lore. But we don't need to now hate on other trans folks because of her. I'm sure we have trans folks here who are also not happy with the way Veilguard turned out, so let's be a bit more chill.

 

[vagabond-]

good riddance.

 

[Honey Bunny]

This happened because the game was so successful, chuds.

 

[LordCBH]

I get that some really want to unload on some trans hate, but it's not fair to dump all the failures on her when the game was in dev hell for as long as it was. Nor is it the only major stumble coming from Bioware casting a pretty damn dark shadow on whatever the Mass Effect team has cooking up. Just say it - the current Bioware team just doesn't have the juice it once did.

 

[dDoc]

A quote for the ages.

 

[lughnasadh123]

You are either a man or a woman; otherwise, you are a man pretending to be a woman or a woman pretending to be a man, in which the use of the "trans" label becomes performative and devoid of meaning; But used to gain validation or stand out from one's mediocrity.

Even physiologically speaking that's still a simplification when you have intersex traits but whatever. I don't understand what it means to be trans, and quite honestly neither do you - whether that be physical or emotional. The only difference is I'm not treating them like dogshit for a decision they choose for themselves. The label obviously is important beyond whatever you want to project onto it.

It's fine not to understand it or even approve of it, but the amount of vitriol dumped on trans people just for being trans isn't. You've got people here pumped at the thought of a trans person's life ruined in some way because of how a game turned out.

 

[cormack12]

A quote for the ages.

 

[Gonzito]

Folks... c'mon now. I get that a lot of us are annoyed that Bioware butchered a once-great franchise. Personally, I think the game has the worst writing for an RPG that I have ever seen. I've been trying to think if there is something worse, but I'm drawing blanks. I also get that people are annoyed with Corrinne because it feels like she tried to make the game about herself more than its own world and lore. But we don't need to now hate on other trans folks because of her. I'm sure we have trans folks here who are also not happy with the way Veilguard turned out, so let's be a bit more chill.

Genesis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

There are only two genders, the rest is mentally ill people justifying their behavior and sinful nature

 

[bundylove]

No one is advocating for Soviet style governance.

You already had that during covid

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Queerosexual

 

[rsouzadk]

 

[BbMajor7th]

I don't understand what it means to be trans, and quite honestly neither do you - whether that be physical or emotional.

You can just read the experiences of actual trans people. A common thread is a sense of dysphoria with their own sex and associated gender expectations. It's not a new invention, but a well-understood one. Gender non-conformism has existed for as long as human beings have and it's well-documented throughout history. I don't think this phenomenon is especially contentious - most people have encountered others who don't fit with our gender expectations. Mostly, it's not that hard to understand, some dickheads might say shitty things and abuse them, but they agree on the basic facts.

What's contentious is the unique Western viewpoint that non-conformity and dysphoria are the result of a mismatch between the ego or, if you like, 'spirit' of a person and their physiological sex - that there is a woman 'trapped inside' or 'born into' a man's body, and vice versa. As a theory, it's shot through with holes and contradictions, as is the assertion that reshaping the body to match the inner 'spirit' is. In science, the best theory is the one that accounts for the greatest number of facts and no single theory (outside of mathematics) is so watertight that it's beyond replacement by a better theory (Newton's gravity was replaced with Einstein's; Einstein's will one day be replaced with someone else's). This isn't how many modern gender activists view their theories - they view them as an article of faith, contradictions and all, and accuse those who disagree of heresy.

It's perfectly possible to sympathize with a person who feels at odds with the societal expectations placed upon them by their gender (most of us feel that way from time to time). You can credit the sense of dislocation and dissociation they feel without crediting a conspicuously medicalized (in the Western world, who'd have thunk?) explanation and treatment that almost exclusively prescribes expensive surgical and pharmaceutical interventions, some of which will require lifelong medicalization.

Gender non-conforming people are not 'trans' by default, 'trans' is merely one of many different theories that seek to explain the cause of the non-conformity and as explanations go, it's not the best. Moreover, it's the only one that comes with a market opportunity built in at ground level - that it's the preferred theory of one of the most aggressively capitalist countries in history is probably just a coincidence.

Also, as final question: is it possible for a non-trans person to understand what it is like to be trans? If yes, then why can we not have valid opinions on that? If not, then how does any person (who's not already trans) discover they're trans (if they are)? If the feeling is indescribable, how would you know what you felt was what another felt?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Even physiologically speaking that's still a simplification when you have intersex traits but whatever. I don't understand what it means to be trans, and quite honestly neither do you - whether that be physical or emotional. The only difference is I'm not treating them like dogshit for a decision they choose for themselves. The label obviously is important beyond whatever you want to project onto it.

It's fine not to understand it or even approve of it, but the amount of vitriol dumped on trans people just for being trans isn't. You've got people here pumped at the thought of a trans person's life ruined in some way because of how a game turned out.

see what I'm saying?.

You are incapable of seeing this person as anything more than someone who is just trans. (or even as someone who represents the entire community)


if a trans woman, is a womant. then, labels are absurd, contraproductive and even harmful

if a trans woman is not a woman... well, there you go.

but as you said:
The label obviously is important...

And this is exactly why people use it to mock, ridicule, and throw "hate". if people believe their little prefixes, suddenly make them special or inmnune to criticism or even "hate" , they’re missing the point entirely.

Labels or titles don’t grant automatic respect or superiority, especially when words/actions (or, more pragmatically, the actual work done) expose you as a fraud.

 

[Alebrije]

Don't blame this puppet for DA current estatus blame the puppeteer of EA

 

[DrumNBassDanTTV]

Great news.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Can’t comment on these issues, everybody keeps talking about gender with BioWare, I don’t give a thought while playing their games.

 

[AJUMP23]

Someone said they will close the studio as well soon. So Veilgard must have failed spectacularly.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Yep, exactly like I’ve said. They keep putting themselves in these games because they’re making the games for themselves - not for fans of the franchises.

 

[viveks86]

Genesis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

There are only two genders, the rest is mentally ill people justifying their behavior and sinful nature

Oh....

Ohhhh....

I wish I'd seen this prior to picking an argument with you the other day about an LGBT flag in a tweet. I understand better now. My apologies.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Labels or titles don’t grant automatic respect or superiority, especially when words/actions (or, more pragmatically, the actual work done) expose you as a fraud.

Professor Brown at Firewalk would like a word with you! lol

As for labels, all it does is create division. And that even ignores everyone needing to adjust to it as make work whether it's verbal or a job application.

And adding to it are the million colourful gender/sex representation flags. I dont know about you guys, but I thought flags are basically relegated to countries, states/provinces or sports teams. Who the hell would care about telling the world their sexual or gender preference waving a flag like it's us vs. them?

 

[TintoConCasera]

Oh....

Ohhhh....

I wish I'd seen this prior to picking an argument with you the other day about an LGBT flag in a tweet. I understand better now. My apologies.

If religion isn't your cup of tea you could go and check science instead, they also say there's only 2 genders.

For once those two seem to agree on something.

 

[Rubim]

You can just read the experiences of actual trans people. A common thread is a sense of dysphoria with their own sex and associated gender expectations. It's not a new invention, but a well-understood one. Gender non-conformism has existed for as long as human beings have and it's well-documented throughout history. I don't think this phenomenon is especially contentious - most people have encountered others who don't fit with our gender expectations. Mostly, it's not that hard to understand, some dickheads might say shitty things and abuse them, but they agree on the basic facts.

What's contentious is the unique Western viewpoint that non-conformity and dysphoria are the result of a mismatch between the ego or, if you like, 'spirit' of a person and their physiological sex - that there is a woman 'trapped inside' or 'born into' a man's body, and vice versa. As a theory, it's shot through with holes and contradictions, as is the assertion that reshaping the body to match the inner 'spirit' is. In science, the best theory is the one that accounts for the greatest number of facts and no single theory (outside of mathematics) is so watertight that it's beyond replacement by a better theory (Newton's gravity was replaced with Einstein's; Einstein's will one day be replaced with someone else's). This isn't how many modern gender activists view their theories - they view them as an article of faith, contradictions and all, and accuse those who disagree of heresy.

It's perfectly possible to sympathize with a person who feels at odds with the societal expectations placed upon them by their gender (most of us feel that way from time to time). You can credit the sense of dislocation and dissociation they feel without crediting a conspicuously medicalized (in the Western world, who'd have thunk?) explanation and treatment that almost exclusively prescribes expensive surgical and pharmaceutical interventions, some of which will require lifelong medicalization.

Gender non-conforming people are not 'trans' by default, 'trans' is merely one of many different theories that seek to explain the cause of the non-conformity and as explanations go, it's not the best. Moreover, it's the only one that comes with a market opportunity built in at ground level - that it's the preferred theory of one of the most aggressively capitalist countries in history is probably just a coincidence.

Also, as final question: is it possible for a non-trans person to understand what it is like to be trans? If yes, then why can we not have valid opinions on that? If not, then how does any person (who's not already trans) discover they're trans (if they are)? If the feeling is indescribable, how would you know what you felt was what another felt?

Oh my god.
I did not join this forum learn.

Thank you so much for this insight.

 

[viveks86]

If religion isn't your cup of tea you could go and check science instead, they also say there's only 2 genders.

For once those two seem to agree on something.

Science argues that there are 2 sexes in humans. It's not as conclusive amongst some other species. Whether sex and gender should be synonymous is a debate worth having and society determines where we go with time. In my opinion, sex and gender are not synonymous. Sex can be used only in biological context while gender is used in linguistics for centuries. There are numerous languages where words have genders and have no relation to sexual characteristics. So I'm open to gender being debated and whether we as a society should embrace fluidity in gender (and the implications of doing so, such as bathrooms, prison, legal rights and protections, sports etc.) or not. My current stance is that we should approach it from a place of kindness, rather than <insert religious book, dictionary, science magazine> thumping pedantry. We are all here to live our best lives in the most peaceful way possible, after all. Insulting one another doesn't take us anywhere.

But do I have an answer to what is the right thing to do and how the conflict can be resolved? No. But I'm certainly not going to invalidate people's existence or disrespect them for who they are, in the name of honesty, religion or science.

 

[TintoConCasera]

viveks86 I appreciate your post and I understand your point. But I have to say I disagree on the "gender is debatable" part.

Thanks for your kind response tho. This is probably not the place to argue about this tho so excuse me for jumping out the thread before we get banned for this.

 

[viveks86]

viveks86 I appreciate your post and I understand your point. But I have to say I disagree on the "gender is debatable" part.

Thanks for your kind response tho. This is probably not the place to argue about this tho so excuse me for jumping out the thread before we get banned for this.

That's fair. Disagreeing is an essential part of why we are on a forum

 

[strike670]

You already had that during covid

Because of the lockdowns to attempt to contain the spread and prevent overwhelming the health system. That was due to a pandemic and was worldwide not due to emulation of Soviet Union style statism.

 

[DJ12]

The tide is really beginning to roll out quite rapidly. Like the famous saying "Slowly at first, then all at once."

Lol, this dude with a mental illness probably thinks he's going to make transage dawn of the sausage snip the rpg and it'll sell millions.

I only hope sweet baby inc back him and end up going out of business as well.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Genesis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

There are only two genders, the rest is mentally ill people justifying their behavior and sinful nature

It's a scientific fact. XX and XY. They're conflating sexual preference and gender.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

THE PLOT THICKENS

Jeff Grubb, my favorite Mankind impersonator, has stolen SmashJT's story out from under him and is now being credited as the one who broke the story.

ROFL, gaming journalism is so retarded.

 

[bundylove]

Because of the lockdowns to attempt to contain the spread and prevent overwhelming the health system. That was due to a pandemic and was worldwide not due to emulation of Soviet Union style statism.

You are naive lol.

 

[viveks86]

You are naive lol.

 

[Kacho]

Thanks for your kind response tho. This is probably not the place to argue about this tho so excuse me for jumping out the thread before we get banned for this.

Yes, please don’t get yourself banned over this stupid subject lol

 

[neocycle]

You can just read the experiences of actual trans people.

Not a thing. "Trans people" is not a coherent group of people. Trans identification has no requirements. None. Anyone can call him or herself "Trans". It's meaningless.

 

[Evil Calvin]

She? It's a guy.

If it's trans.......why does the bio say 'she/her'?

 

[seb85]

Good , one DEI piece of garbage is out
Now fire the rest as well

 

[bundylove]

Science argues that there are 2 sexes in humans. It's not as conclusive amongst some other species. Whether sex and gender should be synonymous is a debate worth having and society determines where we go with time. In my opinion, sex and gender are not synonymous. Sex can be used only in biological context while gender is used in linguistics for centuries. There are numerous languages where words have genders and have no relation to sexual characteristics. So I'm open to gender being debated and whether we as a society should embrace fluidity in gender (and the implications of doing so, such as bathrooms, prison, legal rights and protections, sports etc.) or not. My current stance is that we should approach it from a place of kindness, rather than <insert religious book, dictionary, science magazine> thumping pedantry. We are all here to live our best lives in the most peaceful way possible, after all. Insulting one another doesn't take us anywhere.

But do I have an answer to what is the right thing to do and how the conflict can be resolved? No. But I'm certainly not going to invalidate people's existence or disrespect them for who they are, in the name of honesty, religion or science.

Tell that to all the women who are getting their ass handed in all sports cuz they have to compete against biological males.

You cant deny boilogy.

Btw why are all the feminists girl power zealots so quite about this? Hmm wonder wonder

 

[winjer]

Science argues that there are 2 sexes in humans. It's not as conclusive amongst some other species. Whether sex and gender should be synonymous is a debate worth having and society determines where we go with time. In my opinion, sex and gender are not synonymous. Sex can be used only in biological context while gender is used in linguistics for centuries. There are numerous languages where words have genders and have no relation to sexual characteristics. So I'm open to gender being debated and whether we as a society should embrace fluidity in gender (and the implications of doing so, such as bathrooms, prison, legal rights and protections, sports etc.) or not. My current stance is that we should approach it from a place of kindness, rather than <insert religious book, dictionary, science magazine> thumping pedantry. We are all here to live our best lives in the most peaceful way possible, after all. Insulting one another doesn't take us anywhere.

But do I have an answer to what is the right thing to do and how the conflict can be resolved? No. But I'm certainly not going to invalidate people's existence or disrespect them for who they are, in the name of honesty, religion or science.

Sorry, but quirks in certain languages on how they use genders, does not mean those languages are automatically an endorsement that gender and sex are not intertwined.
Anyone that has studied languages for just a bit, knows that there are so many quirks due to centuries of change, mixing with other languages, generations using words in different ways, etc.
The reality, is that in all of history, sex and gender were tied to each other.

 

[viveks86]

Tell that to all the women who are getting their ass handed in all sports cuz they have to compete against biological males.

You cant deny boilogy.

Btw why are all the feminists girl power zealots so quite about this? Hmm wonder wonder

I never said trans women should compete in female sports. Certainly not in its current form. Without major restructuring of sports categories, it is neither safe nor fair to do so. Just saying there is a conversation to be had on how, if at all, there could be a way to accommodate such minority groups in the long term, instead of shunning them altogether till the end of time.

 

[bundylove]

I never said trans women should compete in female sports. Certainly not in its current form. Without major restructuring of sports categories, it is neither safe nor fair to do so. Just saying there is a conversation to be had on how, if at all, there could be a way to accommodate such minority groups in the long term, instead of shunning them altogether till the end of time.

You claim to say this or that i really dont care for your nonsense opinion.

Or you will explain to me how is it acceptable to have a fucking bearded motherfucker with tits going into the same washroom as my 10 year old daughter.

Or me taking her to indigo and every staff is some bearded unwashed fake titted dude i have to call a she. Cuz you know its on their pronanue tag.

I can name you infinate examples why there has to be a strickt seperation when it comes to genders.

Let not go there with me cuz you would lose big time and yes i would unload sooo hard on this topic not only will you and i be banned but probably gaf as a forum too lol.

Dont educate me. This shit already ruined many womens lives.

I live in the real world . Not behind a screen.

This conversation ends here as i am disgusted by people of your kind for many reasons. Especialy when it comes to my daughter

 

[viveks86]

Sorry, but quirks in certain languages on how they use genders, does not mean those languages are automatically an endorsement that gender and sex are not intertwined.

I never made that claim.

Anyone that has studied languages for just a bit, knows that there are so many quirks due to centuries of change, mixing with other languages, generations using words in different ways, etc.

Agreed

The reality, is that in all of history, sex and gender were tied to each other.

So like you stated above, words have have so many quirks due to centuries of change, but "sex" and "gender", which are also words, can never change because they were the same for all of history? Seems like you are contradicting yourself. Nothing needs to remain the same just because they were the same for all of history. No social change would have ever happened if that were the case. We would still be owning slaves and beating our wives (some of us still do, unfortunately) if history dictates the future. If a significant group of people among us feel a change is needed, then at the minimum, a debate is warranted. And the debate should go on for however long it takes till there is a meaningful consensus and a way forward.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

A quote for the ages.

Should add ‘Killer of beloved franchises’ and ‘Sinker of once well regarded studios’ to that headline

 

[nani17]

 

[Jenov]

Seems like one of those incel to trans pipeline, if I've ever saw one.

Props to doctors tho

Prop to the filters/photoshop

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

Genesis 1:27:

So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

There are only two genders, the rest is mentally ill people justifying their behavior and sinful nature

So what you're saying is God is trans.