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decisions
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Take this example, I’m naming attack button presses A and B:
Jump -> Attack (and release) (A) -> Attack (hold to charge) (B) -> Magic Burst (A) -> Release charge Attack B
This gives you a simple launch combo without using any Eikon abilities. You have to have Mastered the charge attacks I think, as I believe that upgrade slightly decrease the charge time.
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Actually sorry, playing the game I realized I described that wrong. You don’t need to press Attack twice. So it should be
Jump -> Attack (hold to charge) -> Magic Burst -> Release charge Attack B
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Or if someone isn’t a fan of something, they’re just bitter.
Honestly, Cid is doing the heavy lifting when it comes to the party because it’s always good to have an outgoing personality to play off the brooding lead. Jill is just… there. So when
Cid goes bye bye the mood of the game takes a huge downturn since the moments of levity are barely there in a miserable world. Clive and Jill cannot carry the narrative on their own. I’m less interested in the story than I was because the most interesting party member right now is a dog.
Reminds me a bit of Grandia III, all the fun banter disappeared when the lead character’s mother departs and the rest of the game was worse for it.
Still a lot left to play though so hoping the dialogue gets more interesting soon.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
You will be in for a treat. There is a very good reason the mood turns dour at that point in time and you will see that play out soon.
It does get better as you go. With 4 icons you have a lot you can do. Still unconvinced about the combat outside of the major boss fights, but you can better keep yourself occupied with the different systems compared to early game when you’re waiting for cooldowns to refresh.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I do miss him big time, was my fav char. Spoiler tag seems broken though. Never mind looks fixed.
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
that Fire in the Sky quest was pretty good. I don’t know which I like better. Bahamut or Titan. Titan’s HP took a super long time. Bahamut looked freaking awesome in the sky during his Zetta Flair attack. They really gave the summons their full potential power in this game. There were some moves that Bahamut did that had me thinking “I’m screwed if I am inside this attack”. Titan had a cool pre fight with the Hugo being human and then it was pretty cool when he was falling with you. That 2nd phase where he’s a massive, earth shattering Titan took forever. I can’t begin to imagine how long the final encounter will be. Might have to utilize suspend mode. 
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I just got to the Veil and saw my map pop up with a massive amount of side quests. I enjoy some of the lore, but they are boring me with their tasks and rewards up to this point.
Should I do every single side quest or just go after the main story? I haven't seen a side quest with a + sign in a long time
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I've come to like the majority of them, they seem to just be getting better overall. So I do 100% that become available.
Dr. Claus
Banned
I would say do them all. Many quests in the Veil region are great for story telling. Plus it will all pay off later on in the game.
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Dr. Claus
Banned
I would say 15%? You are very early on still.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Thanks, they are quick enough to knock out so I might as well enjoy the "downtime" segments. Sometimes I'm a little too amped up to get to the next massive set piece rather than smell the roses, haha
I did an optional side quest last night similar to any of the other fetch quests but it had a 500 ability point reward. Might not want to skip.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I still wouldn't necessarily call this "wide linear", more like expanded hallway syndrome. But it's good, I like the way they're going with this some areas are connected enough to make it likeable.
I can see how another iteration or two down the road we could have a pretty seamless environment even though it wouldn't make sense or you wouldn't want to travel through the environment that way it would really enhance believability but I like I think they make huge strides for it here from 13, absolutely huge in my opinion.
I can see how another iteration or two down the road we could have a pretty seamless environment even though it wouldn't make sense or you wouldn't want to travel through the environment that way it would really enhance believability but I like I think they make huge strides for it here from 13, absolutely huge in my opinion.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Dang, the variability in side quest rewards is crazy. That's definitely worth it as AP are hard to come by to max out the Eikons.
Slothbeing1209
Member
You're still in early game. Maybe around 1/5
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DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I just try to save manually before I get that feel that a boss fight is coming that way I can just reload that but I do wish that upon death they have an option to go to load I think that was a misstep.
wvnative
Member
Good to hear! Thanks.
Like I didn't really think it was that far in, but I guess I have been in the zone and it's felt like I've played longer than I actually have.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Trust me, that region has some of the most interesting early-game side quest stories. Side Quests also become far more expanded in terms of narrative later on, with major character revelations. Definitely worth not skipping for now.
The zone design is taking directly from FFXIV and FFXII. Sure your end point from A to B is relatively linear, but exploring offers a chance to find chests which give you good to great accessories and sometimes powerful equipment, such as Mythril Armbands. This is the norm for FF since the first game.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
And the OST while it's not flooring me at all times there are many tracks that I really enjoyed especially with the older themes sprinkled in like when they are all looking at the map and you've got the Final Fantasy Crystal theme playing or maybe it was the Final Fantasy 1 music I'm not sure but it was excellent and seems like that are excellent and used to great effect and some areas have quite nice music but I'm still only so early into the game that I'm sure I'll hear more but it definitely is going to be a very good solid soundtrack hope it continues to elevate.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
To an extent you are correct I wouldn't quite want to compare it to the final fantasies before X and such a direct way because they were often less linear in the sense that you could go to other areas or optional areas in between main beats.
But overall I agree with you I just think if they iterate upon the formula foundation that they have here with 16 they could really make a lot of people happy, myself included. They are really very close. And again I love all of the HD towns even if some of them are just small villages and things like that my only complaint is there's not more stuff to buy from the merchants in these areas and upgrade equipment to have and things like that even if it's just small level I think they can improve that stuff to make the towns a little better but there's enough side vocal to hear from walking passing by that's relevant and enough people to talk to you I wish there were more because I'm one of those people that talks to everyone in the village but otherwise it's a pretty good attempt.
As of right now I have no idea where this will fall on my list of top final fantasies but I am enjoying it despite complaints or things I'd like otherwise I'm willing to take the good with the bad so far.
As a side note though I don't really want zones to be influenced by XIV or any other MMO.
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Sleepwalker
Member
The akashik minotaur and morbel wrecked me too because I used most potions on the minotaur I ended up dying to Morbel.
Werewolf Jones
Member
It was so obvious and phoned it the second they never said it was an animal. Lol. Still A LOT better than "Give these three items to people."
Myths
Member
This has certainly bumped VI back, giving it a newfound place near the top of my list. A lot can be done with the combat system here, especially on subsequent playthroughs. Clive is a well written character, from arc to dialogue, resonating most with me compared to the rest in the series. I’d been waiting long for a more middle aged character to be placed as a main, and one not without so much as a bit of depth.
Now, it could be him having grown into more of a leader as he takes on youknowwho’s responsibilities which gives him both a sense of accountability and obligation. That’s something we can expect aging as adults in the real world and it does play around a bit with the idea of absolving ourselves of the consequences that should follow with choices - if those choices can be said to be strictly a result of our own agency and nothing else I guess. I’d have to read more into undertones before going with this theme as it’s not just Clive but several others who struggle with the Power checked by Responsibility dynamic.
From the deathblows on the field in battle to simple mannerisms such as kicking chests open, he’s more savage and rugged than those before him. For action RPGs, I place a ton of weight on how much I’m able to extract impact out of attacks and abilities - Titan fulfills this for me. Nothing grates me more than only the computer being able to knock me back except you’re able to do the same in many cases, in and out of the Stagger phase. There’s satisfaction in calling on his abilities for big impact damage!
Now, it could be him having grown into more of a leader as he takes on youknowwho’s responsibilities which gives him both a sense of accountability and obligation. That’s something we can expect aging as adults in the real world and it does play around a bit with the idea of absolving ourselves of the consequences that should follow with choices - if those choices can be said to be strictly a result of our own agency and nothing else I guess. I’d have to read more into undertones before going with this theme as it’s not just Clive but several others who struggle with the Power checked by Responsibility dynamic.
From the deathblows on the field in battle to simple mannerisms such as kicking chests open, he’s more savage and rugged than those before him. For action RPGs, I place a ton of weight on how much I’m able to extract impact out of attacks and abilities - Titan fulfills this for me. Nothing grates me more than only the computer being able to knock me back except you’re able to do the same in many cases, in and out of the Stagger phase. There’s satisfaction in calling on his abilities for big impact damage!
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BlitzerRadic
Member
Well dunno what the other guy you quoted is referring to exactly, but the most damaging basic combos use charged attacks. Using control type B:
R1, R2(charge), R1, R1, R1, (release R2)
R1, R2(charge), R1, R1, R1(charge), (release R2), (release R1)
I found the best control type for these charge attacks is Type C.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
I have gotten pretty good at these with the default control scheme. It's satisfying to continue to pull them off.
Aenima
Member
Parry and block are diferent things. When you parry you interrupt and stun the enemy and enter a slowdown time that allows u to land some free hits. Block absorb all physical damage, unless is an unblockable attack, if its a precise block then you can counter with 3 especial hits. Precise blocking dosent stun or interrupt the enemy so if the enemy is doing a combo and u block his 1st attack, he still donna hit you with the other attacks if you dont block them again.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
It feels to me that with this game, for the first time in many years, there's an aura of confidence surrounding a FF project.
There's no hedging of bets, it just is what it is.
It might be Yoshida with the success of FFXIV behind him has the clout to sort of unbind himself and the team from the weight of history and expectations for the franchise, but my overriding sense is that there's an attempt here to pull in stuff from outside the FF legacy in a way that previous titles would never dare.
As mentioned elsewhere there are bits that seem to be quite heavily influenced by Yoko Taro's stuff (the auto-play accessories, the "white zone" flashbacks, some of the sidequests and overall darker tone) which I simply cannot imagine being in an entry helmed by one of the previous series mainstays.
There's no hedging of bets, it just is what it is.
It might be Yoshida with the success of FFXIV behind him has the clout to sort of unbind himself and the team from the weight of history and expectations for the franchise, but my overriding sense is that there's an attempt here to pull in stuff from outside the FF legacy in a way that previous titles would never dare.
As mentioned elsewhere there are bits that seem to be quite heavily influenced by Yoko Taro's stuff (the auto-play accessories, the "white zone" flashbacks, some of the sidequests and overall darker tone) which I simply cannot imagine being in an entry helmed by one of the previous series mainstays.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Nope, I would really like a way to disable the hud all together while I play to be honest.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Not a single issue here. No bugs, no freezing, no shutdowns. Game is super polished.
Nothing1234
Banned
Finished the game. Loved it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ayoo when they said return to Phoenix Gate, I did not expect to return to a fucking crater lol
Boneless
Member
Just had the first real boss fight with B. and WOW. I thought the combat was okay before but this fight really showcased it, better bossfight than any of the bossfights in GoW Ragnarok imo.
Also not sure about people saying its too easy. I died about 4 times, quite thankful for the checkpoints otherwise it would get tiresome.
Also not sure about people saying its too easy. I died about 4 times, quite thankful for the checkpoints otherwise it would get tiresome.
Slothbeing1209
Member
How does Jote a side character always look the best in game lol.
She and Tarja are my favorite girls in this game.
She and Tarja are my favorite girls in this game.
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Slothbeing1209
Member
You can see it in your save file
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You are not Ifrit. I am.
And look at where those new Eikon abilities are located on the abilities tree screen. K I N O.