KrazyKrelian
Banned
LTTP but I am loving the game so far. It's like the devs said let's mix Attack on Titan and Game of Thrones into a smoothie.
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Luipadre
Member
Omg turning off camera auto follow during movement and turning down the motion blur to 2 made such a huge difference. The visual clarity is much better, game looks even better/crisper now in graphics mode. The extreme amount of motion blur combined with the auto camera movement washed away so much detail in this game its crazy... Thankfully i still have 30% left in the main story, but these options should've been there day 1.
hyperbertha
Member
Sure sure so you had an easy time with souls but for some reason finds final fantasy gives you a challenge?
Sure Jane.gif
I know you're lying
Zheph
Member
You can decide to not engage and press a couple of buttons mixed with flashy skills sometimes (even better just put the right rings and you only have to press square, bravo) turning in into a uselss slog or you can go wild on monsters with the very competent battle system and make it much more fun
The decision doesn't impact how depth the system is just a perception of it
The decision doesn't impact how depth the system is just a perception of it
Umbasaborne
Banned
Im mixed so far. I love the story, but when the game pulls me back to the hide away because “now it’s time to do side quests” my interest wains quite a bit. I would skip them, but then I’m worried I’ll be under leveled for the story.
Edit: while ffxiii on the ps3 had the ps2 dog, ffxvi on the ps5 has a ps3 dog (not torgal, the random npc dog you find)
Edit: while ffxiii on the ps3 had the ps2 dog, ffxvi on the ps5 has a ps3 dog (not torgal, the random npc dog you find)
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fart town usa
Member
The game is so damn goofy. I was able to take it somewhat serious for the first 10 hours or so but it truly is RE6 & Alone in the Dark: Inferno levels of stupid when it comes to the writing and how serious it takes itself.
The mouth animations are truly awful. It wouldn't stand out to me but people are emphasizing, "it's not a dub, it was English first!" That's cool and all but it looks awful.
Gameplay that was dated in the PS3 generation. Graphics that's are all over the place. Protagonist that looks like a bad cosplay of Gabriel Belmont from Lords of Shadow. Cities that pale in comparison to something as universally hated as White Knight Chronicles.
The game is an embarrassment but much like RE6, it's a trainwreck that I can't avert my eyes from. I'm compelled to finish this mess of a game.
Madflavor
Member
The misconception of the combat system being “brainless” exists because of the game’s easy difficulty. People don’t feel the need to step out of their comfort zone and experiment with combos and different abilities, because whatever they’ve been doing for the past 20 hours is enough to blow through everything. This is the fault of the game. FF mode should have been the default difficulty, or at the least they should fine tuned enemy aggression and damage to keep you on your toes more.
That said, the combat definitely isn’t brainless. It can be quite deep because of how much it allows for player expression given the variety of different Eikons you can pick from.
That said, the combat definitely isn’t brainless. It can be quite deep because of how much it allows for player expression given the variety of different Eikons you can pick from.
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Zheph
Member
You won't be underlevel don't stress about it
Roufianos
Member
As I said a couple of pages before, that imaginary pocket animation is the kind of thing I'd expect from Game Freak. Not a massive deal, but the fact it happens so often, and it's always for such shit fetch quests, makes it all the more annoying.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I absolutely agree.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Yeah, its pretty amazing that for such a big budget thing, it wears its budget related short cuts pretty plainly on its sleeve at all times
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
As a combat system I can understand why the designer was/is so proud of it.
The way by the end you can basically build your own move-set from using the various Eikons as base components then mixing and matching commands is very clever. Especially as the Chronolith trials showcase how differentiated but effective each Eikon's set is when restricted to just using one.
Making the game harder wouldn't make it better imho, people employing brain-dead repetitive methods to win would still use rinse-and-repeat approaches -just ones drawn from a smaller sub-set of moves if death was more likely.
Lets face it, this is basically how most people play Souls games!
Honestly, would people be happier if you just had to stop story progress and grind until over-levelled and dominate like in older FF titles ? Why not bring back random encounters to support that, because lets face it, the reason that design element came about was in order to supply and endless stream of fodder mobs for the power-growth loop. And if becoming op as fuck and running around one-shotting enemies wasn't desirable, the entire premise of the gameplay would make no sense.
Lokaum D+
Member
if a FF16-2 or DLC drops, what u guys wanna see ?
What I would like to see if FF16-2 was a thing : Since magic is gone I would be happy with a job system and instead of a Black Mage we can have an Alchemist , for the story I would like to see something related with lost Leviathan.
What i would like to see if DLC happens : The F sky not been pink, maybe playing as Dion ? Jill as a Blue Mage.
What i would like to see if DLC happens : The F sky not been pink, maybe playing as Dion ? Jill as a Blue Mage.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
That explains why my wife doesn’t hear it, but our kids do! Oh, just realized she won’t read this.Just get old. Old people don't hear these frequencies. Maybe explains why I dont hear it
Madflavor
Member
It's likely going to be:
Leviathan DLC. Will likely take place mid game and will involve the other continent the game briefly mentions. It also may fundamentally change the ending due to Clive actually being a completed vessel when he defeats Ultima.
fallingdove
Member
And why is that? Because you found out you could spam Phoenix abilities against trash mobs?
Give me a break, just because the game is easy doesn’t mean the combat system doesn’t have some depth to it. That’s also not to say that it is the deepest combat out there — but it is the Great Barrier Reef in comparison to the evaporating puddles that are TOTK and Bethesda RPGs.
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TheDarkPhantom
Member
More screenshot goodness as I approach the very end:
All hunts done, all Patron's Gifts obtained, got 4-5 sidequests left, just hit level 49
All hunts done, all Patron's Gifts obtained, got 4-5 sidequests left, just hit level 49
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Lokaum D+
Member
Yeah problaby, but i dont think ll be mid game, i think ll be after game end AND i dont think Clive is dead at least he didnt die from the magic curse, since he ripped all magic from the world i dont think more than his hand had turned into stone.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Late ( ? ) game:
Clive and Gav in real time
Clive and Gav in real time
hyperbertha
Member
Bethesda RPGs and Zelda have a lot more going for them than the combat. What does this game have? It doesn't even have an explorable open world. Presentation? Only 10 percent of the game. Rest are home video level 'cutscenes' with 3 animations on repeat. Even the story takes a nosedive after the first half.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
So, shall I just skip the side quests?
I feel I can't but they are so bad lol
I feel I can't but they are so bad lol
Madflavor
Member
You miss out on a lot of context for later main story missions, including the ending to the game, if you skip side quests in the last quarter. Your call though.
Lokaum D+
Member
there is really good ones late game, even one that links with the end credits
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ulysses 31
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GymWolf
Member
Oh come the fuck on, so now i have to do every shit sidequest in the hope of doing the one that is related to the finale?
Is it at least a + sidequest or just a random quest with the ! ??
Lokaum D+
Member
since the gold era of SquareSoft Final Fantasy games dont sell that well in Japan anymore, Japanese market "triple A" JRPG is mostly DQ and Zelda nowadays.
fallingdove
Member
Lol. Goal posts and what not. I thought we were talking about combat.
Open world games are overrated as fuck. Especially when they are empty walking simulators with an overabundance of checklist distractions.
I’ll take smaller, more focused maps any day of the week. I greatly prefer them to lazy, procedurally generated open worlds that I am effectively holding forward to navigate. Starfield and it’s 1000 planets already sound like an unappetizing bowl of slog and I haven’t had to fire a single bullet into Bethesda’s trademark brain dead level-scaled enemies.
Lokaum D+
Member
random ones, the last side quests are heavily focused on the worldbuilding and character arcs.
Here is a video with all 76 side quests, the last ones are in part 2.
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Madflavor
Member
+ continue to give you good upgrades. The rest of the side quests in the last 30% offer genuine good story with side quests, and a couple in particular are key to understanding the real meaning behind the ending.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Same. The more we hear about Starfield the worse it sounds for people like us that are tired of mindless open worlds. 10% of planets have life. No land vehicles. Mostly procedurally generated. I don't know who procedural generation appeals to. Hell even Mass Effect 1 had a land vehicle with the jet pack. I'm loving the more linear nature of FFXVI.
hyperbertha
Member
It's not really moving goalposts because yours was a flawed comparison in the first place. nobody is really claiming people play Zelda for the combat. This game lives or dies by it's combat alone. And while you have a point regarding openeorlds, they only apply to trash ubisoft type worlds, not to franchises that have had amazing open world's like ff, Skyrim or Zelda. The exploration was one of the best parts of final fantasy 7 and 9.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I would say don’t wast your time with this guy, his been shitting in this game even before the game was out, don’t feed the troll.
Lokaum D+
Member
i want a patch to remove it from the game when u finished, i want to visit some of the late game zones without this awful pink filter.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
The sidequests are constructed in a very orderly fashion; they are all threaded into side-stories about a particular character or the region in which they live. So there's always a payoff of some sort at the end.
If you're looking for trophy completion they are mandatory though, pretty sure you need to do them to unlock all regions of the map and absolutely certain you cannot complete the curiosity set without doing them all.
TrebleShot
Member
This is more like it ey lads.
Playable in 30 mode motion blur factor 2 on a 77” OLED.
Belissimo.
60+ will have to be for PC release later on.
Also screw side quests waste of plastic NPC face animations.
Playable in 30 mode motion blur factor 2 on a 77” OLED.
Belissimo.
60+ will have to be for PC release later on.
Also screw side quests waste of plastic NPC face animations.
Terrain being procedurally generated doesn't mean much. The terrain on Earth isn't hand-crafted either. You procedurally generate a planet in a particular style of biome and then build settlements and interactions on top of it. There's nothing "mindless" about that.
Some of you are very keen to trash other games in order to prop up XVI. No, Souls games aren't "piss easy" or "low skill cap." No, RPGs from Bethesda and others don't have empty, mindless worlds.
XVI should be able to stand on its own merits.
hyperbertha
Member
Oh look somebody got triggered by some criticisms towards a Japanese game. Newsflash, Japanese devs fuck up too. I know you are a big time simp for anything that comes outta Japan but this really ain't it. Oh, and gravity rush SUXXX.
semiconscious
Member
what is it about review sites that, depending on the game, make them incapable of seeing these things? (that's a rhetorical question, btw)...
GymWolf
Member
No i don't care for trophies, i was doing the quest for the reason you say but i got bored
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Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
XVI does stand on it's own merits. I wasn't specifically talking about procedural generation as mindless. Most open world games in general have a lot of mindless missions and aspects.
They haven't even shown a mission of Starfield yet. Haven't really said what you'll do on these planets besides make your own fun. Haven't shown any console gameplay at all yet.
Bethesda RPGs have never been my thing, but most of what starfield has been mentioning sounds even less my thing. Which is fine, not everything has to be for me.
So far Death Stranding sounds more fun to me than this. At least that had a focused narrative.
hyperbertha
Member
I don't know, fear of being secretly blacklisted, missing out on invites to future previews and events, backlash from fanboy communities etc which can all affect bottom-line.
TheKremlinBossMan
Banned
Now I know you either can't read or have comprehension problems. I never said it gave me a challenge I said your button mashing just tells me that you cannot play. You're a bad gamer and it's ok. Who do you think you are where I would need to lie to you?
Yea you're right I'm lying I don't beat the souls games. /s
So casual I do time stop weapon switch parrys in FF mode.
There is nothing at all hard about the Souls series. There was nothing at all hard about FF even in hard mode, it was just more fun with a bit more difficulty.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That's likely in reference to the game having a pretty big drop in Japanese sales this week (even though it has a $ price in the comment). Most of the early sales were front-loaded pre orders, so it'll be interesting to see what kind of legs the game has in a month or two's time.
It sold 37,763 units, a 90% drop from its launch week of 336,027.
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So I guess releasing the game on XBox would clearly have a MASSIVE effect on Japanese sales...
I mean... come on...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
PCs as well.