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Ghost of Yotei allegedly being written by the same people who wrote Dragon Age Veilguard

Firestartah

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One of the member of the development team of Indiana jones looks like a gay carrying lgbt flag but there was no agenda of translecturing and gender ideology in the game, if there is its barely noticeable. Hopefully thats the same case with goy
There are elements in Indiana Jones, they just arent too annoying. First of all the woman isnt really attractive, going against the movies' history of having a cute girl besides Indy. Then there are dialogue lines like the main nazi guy says: "There is nothing easier to manipulate than an insecure male" - something which that leftwing nut Jeff Grubb was quick to laud.
 
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Shaki12345

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GOT isn't overrated. Perhaps not for you. There are so many games to play now that you don't need to be into GOT/Y. If they mess up, hopefully they will learn from that and if they don't, some people will have a game their into, to play.
Completed it on Platinum because I figured out I could get everything in quite a short amount of time and the gameplay itself was fun..

But the plastic and soulless NPC's and overall the copy paste Ubisoft design makes me love it less that I should.
 

Bernardougf

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Modernizing the witcher 4 for new audiences were the same words used to describe indiana jones before it launched and that game isn't woke. Judging games before release and putting the woke label on them is not the way to go about it sorry especially with games like the witcher 4, and gta 6 which are based on a series of games that were never woke.
Well. You cant blame people for being highly skeptical after that Indiana Jones promo video ... It certainly dodged the bullet and never came into fruition as far as I know it since I still haven't played ... it was only bad marketing.

But being based on series never woke means nothing ...Dragon Age just happened and there are many other examples..... what matters is the Devs and their current mindset ... they already choose to gender swap their highly popular lead character in the Witcher for no reason whatsoever..going against even book lore and making her a witcher..... so everything they do cant surprise anyone really and hiring Insomniac woke devs certainly isn't helping their case. But Its not enough to call the game woke yet I'll agree .....
 
I was already done with this game when that stuff about the horrible lead actress came out. The first game already felt too "modern" for me with the weak main character surrounded by girl bosses, so this is an easy skip for me. There's so much about this game you can already predict based on the last 10 years of similar slop.
 

sainraja

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Completed it on Platinum because I figured out I could get everything in quite a short amount of time and the gameplay itself was fun..

But the plastic and soulless NPC's and overall the copy paste Ubisoft design makes me love it less that I should.
Ok, I can understand that point of view. I do think they handled waypoint navigation a little differently using the touch bar... but yeah don't think you are wrong about the NPC's. For me that wasn't that important. Perhaps I haven't found a game where I found this to be its strong point but haven't cared much personally for how lived in a game world feels.
 
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Rambotito

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Well. You cant blame people for being highly skeptical after that Indiana Jones promo video ... It certainly dodged the bullet and never came into fruition as far as I know it since I still haven't played ... it was only bad marketing.

But being based on series never woke means nothing ...Dragon Age just happened and there are many other examples..... what matters is the Devs and their current mindset ... they already choose to gender swap their highly popular lead character in the Witcher for no reason whatsoever..going against even book lore and making her a witcher..... so everything they do cant surprise anyone really and hiring Insomniac woke devs certainly isn't helping their case. But Its not enough to call the game woke yet I'll agree .....

They didn't gender swap though because ciri is a big part of the entire witcher universe and geralts story was done and over with and they wanted to move on. And if people wanna continue to play as geralt then they can buy the witcher remake that they're developing as well.
 
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Yes .. this really is nothing new.. can you point to something new... like a not lesbian hot beautiful not androgenous well modeled female lead character in a western game in the last couple of years ?
I'm responding to the video that implies lesbianism in Ghost of Tsushima does not equal woke. How attractiveness play a part is irrelevant, Jin Sakai is not your typical "stud" character. He's rough looking, befitting the theme of the game and time period.
 

Thebonehead

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You cannot blame people to form opinion or be on defensive after Veilguard fiasco.
Could be a nothing burger? Totally. But the same applies that it could be totally a woke propaganda fest, like Spider-man 2. Unless you have some hard evidence for that.

Why its alright to look foward to the game but not to be extremelly cautious about writters of a demency? It's just like movie teasers when people like the video and think its great, but tell to people who dislike to "wait until is released before judging".
I say theres nothing wrong with both. Gives more reason for them to prove us wrong. And who wouldn't want that.

Yep - Totally agree with you.

Caution required, but will happy to see that it's normal with no agendas being pushed
 

Madflavor

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Yup. I wasn't liking the change of the protagonist, that fucking loud mouth who's the voice of the new protagonist, the new protagonist being an unattractive woman, but now? Yeah this is totally off my radar. Not trusting critics on this one. Tsushima got very low 80s and everyone loved the game. They can fuck off with their 9s and 10s.

I'm getting too old to pretend to care at this point. The economy is in the shitter, and will probably get worse. I'm not wasting my money or time for that matter on this bullshit anymore. Western Game Devs better wake the fuck up immediately. People are a lot more picky with what they spend their money on luxuries these days, and that will continue.
 

Ristifer

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There are elements in Indiana Jones, they just arent too annoying. First of all the woman isnt really attractive, going against the movies' history of having a cute girl besides Indy. Then there are dialogue lines like the main nazi guy says: "There is nothing easier to manipulate than an insecure male" - something which that leftwing nut Jeff Grubb was quick to laud.
Those are some piss poor examples, honestly. Those are examples that people would bring up to try to find something wrong somewhere, when it just isn't there.
 

GymWolf

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There are elements in Indiana Jones, they just arent too annoying. First of all the woman isnt really attractive, going against the movies' history of having a cute girl besides Indy. Then there are dialogue lines like the main nazi guy says: "There is nothing easier to manipulate than an insecure male" - something which that leftwing nut Jeff Grubb was quick to laud.
they didn't even tried with a cute love affair for indie that is a staple of the 3 good movies because they know that indy way of flirting is EXTREMELY toxic for nowadays bullshit standards so if they had to be faithful with the character they would have been absolutely roasted by the wokes, and if they wrote indy super respectful of women you could hurt the other side because indy was a disrespectful dongiovanni ready to kiss without consent, so they chose the coward way of not having a love affair to begin with and hit with the ugly stick the beatiful italian real life actress that accompany indy.
 
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graywolf323

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I hate woke crap but i also hate how people on here are calling anything and everything woke as well. We had a thread about the witcher 4 being woke cause of ciri, we had a thread that GTA 6 might be woke, we've had several threads of this game being woke etc etc. Calm tf down and start using ur head instead of screaming that everything is woke because when you do that nonstop your entire message loses all meaning.


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they’ve become the very thing they hate, they’re just as bad as the other side which calls everything racist/sexist/bigot/etc.

both sides have just thrown any semblance of logic & reason out the door and instead are incredibly tribal

edit: and I’m with you where I find the woke crap grating at best and insufferable at worst, but the witch hunts from the other side are just as bothersome

especially hating on the game because the voice actress is woke? do they not realize that almost the entire voice acting industry is incredibly leftist? so are they just not going to play any game with voice acting? 🙄
 
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Firestartah

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they didn't even tried with a cute love affair for indie that is a staple of the 3 good movies because they know that indy way of flirting is EXTREMELY toxic for nowadays bullshit standards so if they had to be faithful with the character they would have been absolutely roasted by the wokes, and if they wrote indy super respectful of women you could hurt the other side because indy was a disrespectful dongiovanni ready to kiss without consent, so they chose the coward way of not having a love affair to begin with and hit with the ugly stick the beatiful italian real life actress that accompany indy.
Pretty much, but at least
they do kiss for a brief moment, so there is romance implied
 

ShaiKhulud1989

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At least try some research outside of IMDB.

Woods never writtten a line for Veilguard, she left BioWare in 2020 after the Dreadwolf was rebooted into The Veilguard and simpy credited because she created Lucanis for the tie-in novels (he was written by another person in the end).

John Dombrow, despite being involved in Veilguard more deeply, left BioWare in 2023 (and probably stopped writing even earlier) and was very involved in Mass Effect trilogy. He wrote Javik, ffs. The closest person to a Samurai and bushido in Mass Effect universe. Anyway, he joined too late to actually change something drastically anyway.
 
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Krathoon

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This reminds me of the bisexual joke in this sketch.


Hopefully, they do not mess with sexuality to be edgy.
 

Toots

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This is nothing new, mate. Here is a painting depicting lesbian sex from ancient Japan. "Woke" has become a very loose term now and is now applied anything resembling modern world politics against conservative viewpoint.
I agree pearl clutcher from every side are very tiresome, but it is kind of dishonest to use a painting to argue that japanese society was more open than it really was at the time.
You could find a lot of old japanese picture depicting bestiality, do you also think it was common and accepted at the time ?
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Edit : those paintings are actually insane it is in the style of a dude named Kobayashi Eitaku and i have to post a few of the more funny ones
This one i call Batman day off
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Peekaboo
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This one is Chat perché
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main nazi guy says: "There is nothing easier to manipulate than an insecure male"
Might be a very subtle way of telling 3rd wave feminists that their worldviews align with nazi ideology ?
Im kidding of course but really it should ring a bell when you find out you and nazi scum think alike :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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StereoVsn

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IMDB can be edited by anyone lol.

Don't take your news from a guy who used to pretend to be a woman and post feet pics on an OnlyFans account.
Wait, what? Can you elaborate on this one because that sounds absolutely hilarious.
 

Firestartah

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Those are some piss poor examples, honestly. Those are examples that people would bring up to try to find something wrong somewhere, when it just isn't there.
Dunno, the other side sure rushed to point it out, maybe the problem is you not noticing things.
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It is difficult the play the fence sitting centrist, when the left just lays it out in front of you. The moment you give these people an inch, you get shit like Concord, Dustborn and Veilguard.
 

GymWolf

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Pretty much, but at least
they do kiss for a brief moment, so there is romance implied
And how do they get there? dude in the movies is more abrasive than a metal brush you use to clean the barbecue and a modern strong woman would not deal with that bullshit:lollipop_grinning_sweat:
 

Ristifer

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Dunno, the other side sure rushed to point it out, maybe the problem is you not noticing things.
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It is difficult the play the fence sitting centrist, when the left just lays it out in front of you. The moment you give these people an inch, you get shit like Concord, Dustborn and Veilguard.
Probably because there's nothing to notice. Wow, males can be insecure. Who knew? We see a lot of them on this forum. Not exactly a shining example. It's not even a woman saying that in the game. Maybe if a woman was saying it, I could give it some thought, but it was a villain male talking about another villain male. Sorry. I'm not reaching for the panic button on that one.
 

Scrawnton

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Dunno, the other side sure rushed to point it out, maybe the problem is you not noticing things.
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It is difficult the play the fence sitting centrist, when the left just lays it out in front of you. The moment you give these people an inch, you get shit like Concord, Dustborn and Veilguard.
I used to like Grubb before all the SBI and Alyssa stuff. I listened to his shows every week for years. Haven't listened to any of his shows since last May.
 

Firestartah

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Probably because there's nothing to notice. Wow, males can be insecure. Who knew? We see a lot of them on this forum. Not exactly a shining example. It's not even a woman saying that in the game. Maybe if a woman was saying it, I could give it some thought, but it was a villain male talking about another villain male. Sorry. I'm not reaching for the panic button on that one.
I'm not panicking lol. I actually really liked the game and I hope Todd gets to make 1 more, but sadly I dont think it was a success financially, remains to be seen.
If they keep shit to this level it is fine, this is how studios 15years ago used to do it, they still put some shit in but it was more tactful and not into your face. No char came in the scene and said "Sooo...I'm non binary" like in Veilguard.
 
Nah....I simply don't think TLOU 2 was that bad at all. Not going down that rabbit hole though. I'll mind if GoY is as heavy handed and preachy as it was with Veilguard and Spider-man 2. There is a massive difference, imo.

How bad is it in spider-man 2? I haven't played it yet.
 
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dunno, the other side sure rushed to point it out, maybe the problem is you not noticing things.
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No need to 'other side' this, it's a great scene in context. Jeff just gets too over-emotional over these things, if you've followed his recent tweets.

RE: the context - Voss (the lead bad guy) arrives at the location and a brash chest-thumping nazi officer tries to show off his rank, Voss emasculates him verbally and by the end that brash officer is left humbled and acknowledging Voss's orders.

The context of the line is that he was able to manipulate a hot-headed officer just with words and vague threats.

It's actually an example of a well written scene all things considered.
 
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ShaiKhulud1989

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No need to 'other side' this, it's a great scene in context. Jeff just gets too over-emotional over these things, if you've followed his recent tweets.

RE: the context - Voss (the lead bad guy) arrives at the location and a brash chest-thumping nazi officer tries to show off his rank, Voss emasculates him verbally and by the end that brash officer is left humbled and acknowledging Voss's orders.

The context of the line is that he was able to manipulate a hot-headed officer just with words and vague threats.

It's actually an example of a well written scene all things considered.
Wait, people found out a reason to be mad about Voss????? (maybe the best part of the script)
 

StereoVsn

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They didn't gender swap though because ciri is a big part of the entire witcher universe and geralts story was done and over with and they wanted to move on. And if people wanna continue to play as geralt then they can buy the witcher remake that they're developing as well.
I think most folks were hoping for custom Witcher.

It’s really too early to tell, but they already went against book and previous lore in making Ciri an actual Witcher. Not a huge issue to be fair, so we shall see how things go.
 

StereoVsn

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How bad is it in spider-man 2? I haven't played it yet.
How do you feel about the patriarchy, defunding the police, LGBT rights, girl bosses and MJ having a bigger jaw and being stronger than Spider-Man in combat? 😉

Oh and there is some sort of a Spider-Man game in there I guess. 😅

Edit: What’s really annoying is that I thought the city looked more “alive”, and gameplay / combat were quite good. It’s everything else that sucked.
 
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ergem

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I mean how many more lesbian ugly/androgenous female leading characters in sony games do you need before saying "Yeah I get it ... "
We don’t know yet if the protagonist in Ghost 2 is lesbian. But if she is lesbian, then I will agree with you. Sony is deep shit with this woke preaching.

I’d say this is the last straw for me. They did it with Aloy already.
 

laynelane

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I think most folks were hoping for custom Witcher.

It’s really too early to tell, but they already went against book and previous lore in making Ciri an actual Witcher. Not a huge issue to be fair, so we shall see how things go.

If they're willing to ignore the lore to make her a Witcher, it makes me wonder how much else they ignored or changed. All told, it might have been better to not make her a Witcher and change the title of the game - then again, they couldn't capitalize on the Witcher name if they did that.
 
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GymWolf

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How bad is it in spider-man 2? I haven't played it yet.
The worst sony game in terms of woke.

You have to go into veilguard territory to find something even more in your face.

In a scale of wokeness i would say:

Super woke: spidey 2
Woke tlou2
Not that woke ragnarock (kratos being old and caring for his son is not comparable with bigot sandwich, religious people deadnaming a trans kid or the stuff in sp2)

Horizon is somehow in between tlou2 and ragnarock, too many female strong warriors, gay stronk woman protagonist but no modern california lines that completely take you out or people being called bigots.
 
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I agree pearl clutcher from every side are very tiresome, but it is kind of dishonest to use a painting to argue that japanese society was more open than it really was at the time.
You could find a lot of old japanese picture depicting bestiality, do you also think it was common and accepted at the time ?
FacnIYs.jpeg

Edit : those paintings are actually insane it is in the style of a dude named Kobayashi Eitaku and i have to post a few of the more funny ones
This one i call Batman day off
EkjPmyL.jpeg


Peekaboo
FyjuiSF.jpeg


This one is Chat perché
7LAh3I4.jpeg

nkZFVhV.jpeg


Might be a very subtle way of telling 3rd wave feminists that their worldviews align with nazi ideology ?
Im kidding of course but really it should ring a bell when you find out you and nazi scum think alike :messenger_grinning_sweat:
OMG.

All Japanese people love animal sex. The proof is all there!

/s
 

GymWolf

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I agree pearl clutcher from every side are very tiresome, but it is kind of dishonest to use a painting to argue that japanese society was more open than it really was at the time.
You could find a lot of old japanese picture depicting bestiality, do you also think it was common and accepted at the time ?
FacnIYs.jpeg

Edit : those paintings are actually insane it is in the style of a dude named Kobayashi Eitaku and i have to post a few of the more funny ones
This one i call Batman day off
EkjPmyL.jpeg


Peekaboo
FyjuiSF.jpeg


This one is Chat perché
7LAh3I4.jpeg

nkZFVhV.jpeg


Might be a very subtle way of telling 3rd wave feminists that their worldviews align with nazi ideology ?
Im kidding of course but really it should ring a bell when you find out you and nazi scum think alike :messenger_grinning_sweat:
The one with the bat is wild :lollipop_squinting:
 
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