Since you don't get kick backed to the homescreen every time you download an app a "New" banner appears across the app:
This changes everything.
Fucking finally.
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This changes everything.
Fucking finally.
Since you don't get kick backed to the homescreen every time you download an app a "New" banner appears across the app:
That's from iBooks. Cool.
Top half is fine more or less, bottom half feels so incredibly inconsistent.
new ipod look.
You're underestimating just how fragmented Android is.
Android is far, far, far more fragmented than iOS is.
Less than 10% of Android users are on ICS, a build which was released nearly six months ago. That's real fragmentation.
yeah, we did. the things you point out are chump change compared to the craziness of Android fragmentation. there’s way more hardware configurations. developers have a harder time testing and supporting all the handsets.
Plus, as you mentioned, the users of Android aren’t getting the latest OS so devs can’t take advantage of new APIs. Android devs need to target an OS that’s, what, over 2 years old? It makes things more restrictive.
And Google should be embarrassed that only around 7% of users are on ICS. They talked lots of shit laster year about unified software upgrades and it’s been a dud. No one building (or buying) Android phones gives a shit. what message does that send to developers who want to make a living on the platform?
Those differences are more dangerous for a platform than whether or not Siri is on the iPhone 4 or not. or tiny things like hearing aid support on the 4S
Not to mention phones like the Sony Xperia S, P, and U that were released weeks ago and still run gingerbread.
So what? This is a simple case of the man 10 pounds over weight calling the man 200 pounds over weight a fatty. While Apple has a bit of fragmentation going on with their products, it's got nothing on Android.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's Apple's fault for not having one device ever.
I wonder how well Siri will handle multiple sports teams or will it be location specific? (could drive transplanted fans insane)
Giants could refer to SF giants or NY Giants
Jets could refer to NY Jets or Winnipeg Jets
Kings could refer to Sacramento Kings or LA Kings
Will they handle team nick names or short forms? NHL is loaded with them where the short forms are almost more prominent than the team names
Isles, leafs, habs, sens, canes, rags, avs, pens, yotes, bolts, wings...
I know there is other examples in other sports too
Just a mild curiosity I have
Giants could refer to SF giants or NY Giants
Jets could refer to NY Jets or Winnipeg Jets
Kings could refer to Sacramento Kings or LA Kings
Will they handle team nick names or short forms? NHL is loaded with them where the short forms are almost more prominent than the team names
Isles, leafs, habs, sens, canes, rags, avs, pens, yotes, bolts, wings...
I know there is other examples in other sports too
Just a mild curiosity I have
Who cares what version is on what phone. The issue to consumers is about features. People want the latest OS because it offers better features. So even though iOS isn't as technically fragmented as android, the impact to consumers is far greater. The impact of a consumer having gingerbread on their android device is significantly less than a consumer who has iOS 5 or 6 on their iPhone 3GS or even 4.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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What's your solution? Don't do anything new that your older stuff can't handle?
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What point are you trying to make? It's not like these users had these features in the first place. These are added features.
We're talking devices that are 2+ years old. People upgrade phones, you know.
This was WWDC - World Wide Developers Conference - the customers in this particular situation are developers. Having to support Gingerbread certainly DOES affect THESE particular customers.
What in the what? I bolded the parts that make no sense, please elaborate.
Having new optional features is fine. Making iOS 6 not compatible with the iPad, which was the most current iPad until a year and 4 months ago, is inexcusable.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Not really. Normally I would agree, but the iPad 1 is such hot garbage. It barely manages one webpage at a time in iOS 5, and it takes so long to get to that point at all.
"Score of the Jets game defaults to Winnipeg (because I'm in Canada?)
It also mentioned that the Sens are out of the playoffs after the game it displayed
Anyone who bought an original iPad is probably loaded anyway. They can afford a new one.
The solution for Apple is to stop highlighting android fragmentation as a terrible thing for android consumers while pissing on their own consumers. There is no technical reason why older iPhones can't enjoy some of the 4S features.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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This is a developer's conference. They highlighted how the majority of Android users being on 2.3 is bad for developers.
Very niiiiiiice?.. Does habs work?
I tried it, seemed to get Habs with the capital H but then just prompted me for a web search
I suspect this is Apples attempt to avoid an iOS 4 on iPhone 3G situation. Theyd rather take the PR hit by not offering it than by putting out the update and having millions of devices that barely run.
Remember, the iPad launched before Apple even had proper multi tasking APIs. that 256 MB of RAM is going to limit what it can do now.
How do you not get that this was target at people developing software for their platforms? To not point out the terrible fragmented mess it is to develop for Android, or the fact that you have to write apps using outdated APIs to be able to maximize your app's potential users would be stupid.
Now you would have a point if this was a marketing bullet point to sell the iPhone, but it isn't. It is to sell a development platform to developers.
actually they were highlighting how Android fragmentation is a terrible thing for developers. Weve mentioned this before to you in the thread. theres a difference.
the fragmentation is a real hurdle for devs. its more a problem for them than for consumers to my mind. (If consumers cared, they wouldnt be buying up the phones with old-ass OS and customized carrier and OEM bullshit on it, right?)
...but developing for features like Siri won't be an issue for iOS developers because most users are on iOS 5?
You don't see the double standard?
It's bizarre that one doesn't work but sens does lol
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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No. Most people are on iOS 5. Less than 10% of people are on the comparable version of Android. You're the only person feeling hurt about this.
There's no Siri API
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OG iPAD owners get fucked eh =D glad i got the ipad 2!!!!
Treefingers
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The UI is now one giant clusterfuck. Not liking it.
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Lol..
beat me to it. the poster is either a troll or is trying his hardest to feel good about the fact that he is an android owner
Consumer has IOS x. Anything for IOS x works on their phone.
There is no Siri API.
Victory Red
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They didn't fix the camera app. When you take a picture then click the album from within the camera you can't send the picture to someone from that screen. You have to open up the Photos app. Why?
So there is no situation where developers have to consider and code the differences between the various features of each iPhone?
You code for the ios version not the device. Thats the beauty.
Android fragmentation is much worse. Fragmentation happens in the ios ecosystem too but its not nearly as bad.
Not sure where you are going here. Look at the charts.
Well I guess I'll save my argument for a sales thread or something... Apologies.
The path I was going was a consumer path... Not development.
Yes, there are a few. In Android, there are too many to count. That's the whole point.
Hardware features? Sure. Not all iOS devices have gyros, a retina display, and other things like that. But otherwise, everything else is usually fair game.
Treefingers
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It's a mess of old UI elements with new ones. Not that it wasn't kinda bad with that before but this is just too much for me. Doesn't help that some of it is pretty ugly. I was really hoping for the silver UI redesign rumors to be true, but no, still stuck with the shiny blue tab icons in some apps, just now with inconsistent tab bars.
Of course it's the first dev preview so stuff will change, I hope they'll take care of the ugly at least (hopefully starting with the music app's Now Playing screen, jesus)
Edit: I should mention I'm talking iPhone here.
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