bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
It's hot garbage. Don't try to understand it. Just delete it and make the album stronger by its absence.
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Lady Gaga ARTPOP |OT| It could mean anything
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It's hot garbage. Don't try to understand it. Just delete it and make the album stronger by its absence.
You Know Nothing
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I'd say Jewels n' Drugs is on there for it to be a potential cross-over radio smash.
I think the instrumental is fire and the chorus isn't bad.
This family is stupid attractive
Slap honey on a young pancake
Best parts.
I think the instrumental is fire and the chorus isn't bad.
This family is stupid attractive
Slap honey on a young pancake
Best parts.
Poker Face
Member
Jewels n Drugs reminds me of something that would be big on the radio in like 06/07. T-Pain could have been on it tbh.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I keep hearing it as DUI
You Know Nothing
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It seems more like a song Gaga's featured on than an actual Gaga song. But I still like it.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Venus has grown on me so much. Sounds a lot better contained in the album too
So far, the only iTunes Festival song I've heard that I feel is trumped the album version (if only by a smidgen) is MANiCURE. Absolutely love the new additions.
"Salons enough fa' her
to not feel so insecure
Poor, Poor Artpop. You could have been so great in HQ
Agreed. Manicure is a great improvement. Sex Dreams is pretty good too but the others it's a definite downgrade
Crash55118
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Got all the way to Swine before wanting to end my existence.
Do you all think this is actually well produced pop album?
There are bits of good to be found (G.U.Y. and Manicure are both alright), but everything about the album left me thinking they found the loops and instruments from 2007, almost mirroring some of the sounds from Britney's Blackout.
Nothing about it is new or really interesting, It just is. For someone with such a persona it is just disappointing that it isn't even different or interesting or exciting.
Do you all think this is actually well produced pop album?
There are bits of good to be found (G.U.Y. and Manicure are both alright), but everything about the album left me thinking they found the loops and instruments from 2007, almost mirroring some of the sounds from Britney's Blackout.
Nothing about it is new or really interesting, It just is. For someone with such a persona it is just disappointing that it isn't even different or interesting or exciting.
POWERSPHERE
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FARTPLOP
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
I agree with this in theory but give me some inspired beats and some worthy MC's and then we're talking. Like if Primo did a track for her and O.C. came the fuck outta nowhere, dropped some bars, and killed it. Some gritty NYC connection shit.
You Know Nothing
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I think it is a fairly standard pop album. There's nothing really about the production that's breaking some ground in the mainstream or anything.
But I think it does what it does fairly well and for that, it's commendable. The production is nice and varied enough so as not to get repetitive, and Gaga's vocals and melodies really do shine in a lot of the songs.
She delivered within my expectations for the album because I never expected her to re-invent the wheel. It's just a polished pop album that has high enough highs without too many lows. It's certainly not in the running for my AOTY or anything. But it's a pleasant album overall and right in line with what I expected.
Crash55118
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I just don't think that sticking close to the status quo is something be commended for. I guess I had different expectations going in, and came out the other side less then impressed. I know it is comparing apples to oranges, but at least when a big mainstream act like Kanye talks a big game he backed it up with something interesting.
I think calling an album Artpop and then delivering 15 songs of varied quality with average production and calling it a day is just a bit depressing.
Red Liquorice
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Yeah, the album doesn't deliver on the title concept at all. In fact there doesn't seem to be much of a concept in general, it could be called CELEBRITY or something like that and make more sense.
Devolution
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Just give me Sexxx Dreams/Manicure to MJH. The start and end can go the fuck away. The TI track too, get that shit outta there.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Gaga's still one of my favorite music celebs (the other being Madonna <3) but I have to say, after listening to each song several times over the past 24 hrs, this is her worst album so far..... besides the legendary "Venus" of course which is one of my favorite songs of hers ever (so glad it's getting a video)
Soulscribe
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This is the first album of hers with no skippable tracks for me. Born This Way was my favorite Gaga album but I tended to skip Bad Kids, Highway Unicorn, Black Jesus/Amen Fashion... I think the quality of all these songs are much more consistent and the disparity between the highs and lows isn't that big. For a pop album with more than 10 tracks, that's pretty impressive.
I'll need a few months to decide whether I'd rank this higher than Born This Way, but all logistics point to yes.
I'll need a few months to decide whether I'd rank this higher than Born This Way, but all logistics point to yes.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
Do what you want with me!
What you want with my body!
What you want with my body world!
The x factor performance was a mess but I love love love the ending of it
She needs to ramp up promo performances. Feels like we've barely seen her
What you want with my body!
What you want with my body world!
The x factor performance was a mess but I love love love the ending of it
She needs to ramp up promo performances. Feels like we've barely seen her
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Honestly, currently I'd rate this as pretty weak (behind the Fame which was mostly filler) - the more I listen the more the 'filler' tracks become obvious. IMO Fashion and Donatella are b-sides at BEST - and that's being generous - then you have super average stuff like Jewels & Drugs and G.U.Y. The whole thing has zero consistency, there's no flow, it's just random styles and genres mashed together with admittedly slick production, all the subtlety of a sledgehammer and no focus. I've come to accept she doesn't actually know what subtlety or nuance is. At all
I really enjoy Venus, DWUW, Aura, and SexxxDreams. Artpop production is really nice too.
Honestly if it was just 5-6 songs, lke an extended EP that would be padded out with app releases as it went, I would be a lot more forgiving. As an album it's messy and pretty average. I like how she has kept it quite tongue-in-cheek but I honestly think she needs a producer who can reel her in and bring out her best points and stop the bad ones.
i_am_ben
running_here_and_there
It's a very popgaf song.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
That intro is straight outta Sir Mixalot.
lol, I take that as a compliment given how good the song is.
Soulscribe
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I love that every song captures a unique sub-genre that's found relevance in the pop scene at some point. Since she's described the album as a journey through different types of pop music, it's obviously intentional. For example:
Venus - Bowie/Sun Ra space glam-pop
GUY - 2000s Gaga/Britney sex-fueled pop romp
Sexxx Dreams - Madonna circa Justify My Love, smooth pop-R&B
Jewels n Drugs - Early 2000s pop-rap hybrid
MANiCURE - Yeah Yeah Yeahs type punk-pop
Do What U Want - Classic 90s R&B anthem, Michael Jackson circa Dangerous
ARTPOP - early 80s psychedelia with glam influences
Swine - Modern day EDM
Donatella - RuPaul/Hi Fashion gay "culture-pop"
Fashion! - 70s disco-pop
Mary Jane Holland - 90s stoner anthem with Iggy Pop/Freddie Mercury influences
Dope - Classic-modern day sadcore rock fusion (thanks Lana Del Rey)
Gypsy - Springsteen/Paul Simon Classic Rock with Mediterranean folk influence (one of my favorite genres)
Aura and Applause are harder to pin down because they transition between a few different types of influences, but I guess that's what makes them good bookends for the album.
I suppose the "art" in the music is in how she arranges it as an exhibition for the genre. It's a showcase. There's definitely an artistic flair in its execution and I think she's making a point that the genre is more substantial than we give it credit for because of all the different influences it draws from and invokes. She's of course not the first person to do that (and she's said that "ARTPOP" has been around for a long time and she's just making a point about it) but I honestly love seeing someone make a case for a genre we all know gets flak for being generic/cookie cutter.
I'm sure this album will get mixed reviews, and it bothers me that a lot of it will be because of the ambitious sounding title. Whether they believe so or not, Gaga delivered (to me at least) music that can be described collectively as ARTPOP, but I know the title will be a hangup for many.
Venus - Bowie/Sun Ra space glam-pop
GUY - 2000s Gaga/Britney sex-fueled pop romp
Sexxx Dreams - Madonna circa Justify My Love, smooth pop-R&B
Jewels n Drugs - Early 2000s pop-rap hybrid
MANiCURE - Yeah Yeah Yeahs type punk-pop
Do What U Want - Classic 90s R&B anthem, Michael Jackson circa Dangerous
ARTPOP - early 80s psychedelia with glam influences
Swine - Modern day EDM
Donatella - RuPaul/Hi Fashion gay "culture-pop"
Fashion! - 70s disco-pop
Mary Jane Holland - 90s stoner anthem with Iggy Pop/Freddie Mercury influences
Dope - Classic-modern day sadcore rock fusion (thanks Lana Del Rey)
Gypsy - Springsteen/Paul Simon Classic Rock with Mediterranean folk influence (one of my favorite genres)
Aura and Applause are harder to pin down because they transition between a few different types of influences, but I guess that's what makes them good bookends for the album.
I suppose the "art" in the music is in how she arranges it as an exhibition for the genre. It's a showcase. There's definitely an artistic flair in its execution and I think she's making a point that the genre is more substantial than we give it credit for because of all the different influences it draws from and invokes. She's of course not the first person to do that (and she's said that "ARTPOP" has been around for a long time and she's just making a point about it) but I honestly love seeing someone make a case for a genre we all know gets flak for being generic/cookie cutter.
I'm sure this album will get mixed reviews, and it bothers me that a lot of it will be because of the ambitious sounding title. Whether they believe so or not, Gaga delivered (to me at least) music that can be described collectively as ARTPOP, but I know the title will be a hangup for many.
Matt_
World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
I'm expecting this too. Most of the reviews will attack her and her outside persona and actually ignore the content.
It happened a lot for Marina and the Diamonds + Electra Heart too
I tried, but it's just not growing on me.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Songs That Matter Tier:
G.U.Y
Do What U Want
Mary Jane Holland
Fashion!
Donatella
Sexxx Dreams
Applause
Venus
Dope
Take out Applause and MJH and I fully agree with this.
Bu-but pop culture was in art, now art's in pop culture in her!
and dat MJH pre-chorus:
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
My problem with MJH is it sounds like a huge fucking mess and I can't understand anything.
Applause is really overplayed and I'm kind of tired of it
In other news, Gypsy is god-tier
You Know Nothing
Member
But Mary Jane Holland is the best damn song on the album.
You need to stop.
You need to stop.
I love MANiCURE. The only songs that don't do it for me are Jewels & Drugs, Fashion!, and Dope.
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