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Lady Gaga ARTPOP |OT| It could mean anything

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Dope's grown on me. But Fashion! still leaves me flaccid. I love the piano intro, but the rest of the song just doesn't live up to it. Not to mention, it's just redundant especially coming after Donatella in the tracklist.
 
I'm somewhat of a casual Gaga fan thanks to a friend of mine who kinda got me into her. There is a lot of stuff I don't like but I like about a handful of songs off of each of her albums that I like a lot. Artpop leaves something to be desired in my opinion. There is only one song I really like, which is G.U.Y. The rest ranges from decent (Aura, Venus, Applause) to just straight up bad (Dope, Jewels n Drugs).
 
But Mary Jane Holland is the best damn song on the album.

You need to stop.

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Did you say something, junior?


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Partition

Banned
God is real tier:
Gypsy
Donatella

What a bop tier:
Fashion!
Mary Jane Holland
MANiCURE

Still better than Born This Way tier:
G.U.Y.
Applause
Venus
Dope
Do What U Want
ARTPOP

Album filler tier:
Sexxx Dreams
Aura
Jewels And Drugs

Erase it from existance tier:
Swine
 
I will admit that Swine is the least impressive song if only because it was so great at the iTunes festival. The second chorus break with her crazy shrieking and then the transition into the "paint her face and/catch the beat" breakdown was so epic. It had such a tense buildup that was gratified through that last breakdown, but it got totally flattened out in the studio version. It's quite a shame.
 

Nev

Banned
Sexxx Dreams is mediocre, but it has one of the best parts of the album - 2:35 -2:50.

Dope is her second best ballad, don't know what you're talking about.

Donatella is held back by the first part of the chorus.

Fashion! is held back because of the stupid talking and ending.

Venus is held back because it has one more bridge than it should.

Artpop is meh.

Manicure is a The Fame filler.

Swine is bad but has some good parts.

Aura is 90% trash.

Jewels & Drugs is garbage.

Mary Jane Holland, Gypsy, Do What U Want, Applause and GUY don't have downsides and are the best songs.
 

Partition

Banned
Sexxx Dreams is mediocre, but it has one of the best parts of the album - 2:35 -2:50.

Dope is her second best ballad, don't know what you're talking about.

Donatella is held back by the first part of the chorus.

Fashion! is held back because of the stupid talking and ending.

Venus is held back because it has one more bridge than it should.

Artpop is meh.

Manicure is a The Fame filler.

Swine is bad but has some good parts.

Aura is 90% trash.

Jewels & Drugs is garbage.

Mary Jane Holland, Gypsy, Do What U Want, Applause and GUY don't have downsides and are the best songs.

I mean I agree with a lot of the points you make (Fashion ending, Donatella chorus), but they don't necessarily ruin the songs for me. I still consider both some of the best on the album. It is annoying though when inherit flawless tracks are lessened by something small, I have that problem with G.U.Y. and it's chorus.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Haha Aura being 90% trash is so damn accurate. But Artpop is sublime, not meh. And Venus isn't held back by anything once she starts serving dem planets. sogood.gif

Nothing can save Swine though. Or Jewels n Drugs. Straight deleted.
 

Hige

Member
I liked the Swine hiccups. >_>

I felt like a lot of the iTunes Festival songs were superior to the studio version. More energy (Swine), better vocals (Artpop), line delivery (Manicure), better chorus (Sexxx Dreams). Still a fun album, though.

Cross-post:

Artpop Holy Trinity
G.U.Y. - Love the video game influence (I see you, Zedd). Just flawless, amazing, when will your fav etc.
Donatella - I live for the transition into the chorus OMG. Feels like an evolved Fame era track.
Gypsy - Lord if this is not the third single. I can't.

Born This Way
Artpop - Not as much of a bop as the live version, but I'll use it.
Manicure
Swine
Sexxx Dreams - Don't like the extra bits in the chorus.

The Fame Monster
Mary Jane Holland - Introducing, ladies and gentlemen, Mary Jane Holland!
Do What U Want - Still uncomfortable that R. Kelly wants to be the drink in my cup.
Venus

The Fame
Applause
Aura - Demo version's first verse >>>> studio version. Can't believe they changed that.
Jewels n' Drugs

PRISM
Fashion! - Just replace it with the other Fashion tbh.
Dope - I'd bump this up a tier if the vocals weren't so bad. WTF.
 

Sai-kun

Banned
Swine should have ended at 3:41.

Or she should have made that last breakdown instrumental instead of saying stupid stuff over it. It doesn't hit nearly as hard as it could.
 

enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
the title "Artpop" is so ill-fitting for this album. She should have titled the album "Aphrodite". Unfortch for Gagita, Kylie already has an album with that title
 

socialQ

Banned
I liked the Swine hiccups. >_>

I felt like a lot of the iTunes Festival songs were superior to the studio version. More energy (Swine), better vocals (Artpop), line delivery (Manicure), better chorus (Sexxx Dreams). Still a fun album, though.

Cross-post:

Artpop Holy Trinity
G.U.Y. - Love the video game influence (I see you, Zedd). Just flawless, amazing, when will your fav etc. so terrible. I skip this track
Donatella - I live for the transition into the chorus OMG. Feels like an evolved Fame era track. so terrible. I skip this track
Gypsy - Lord if this is not the third single. I can't. dig it

Born This Way
Artpop - Not as much of a bop as the live version, but I'll use it.like it quite a lot
Manicureso terrible. I skip this track
Swineso terrible. I skip this track
Sexxx Dreams - Don't like the extra bits in the chorus.so terrible. I skip this track

The Fame Monster
Mary Jane Holland - Introducing, ladies and gentlemen, Mary Jane Holland!so terrible. I skip this track
Do What U Want - Still uncomfortable that R. Kelly wants to be the drink in my cup.
Venus I like this

The Fame
Applause
Aura - Demo version's first verse >>>> studio version. Can't believe they changed that.AWFULLL. I skip this track
Jewels n' Drugs I skip this track

PRISM
Fashion! - Just replace it with the other Fashion tbh. so terrible. I skip this track
Dope - I'd bump this up a tier if the vocals weren't so bad. WTF.so terrible. I skip this track

so all up. awful album. Lots of tracks I can't sit through.
 

Wozzly

special needs, sexual needs
Listening to iTunes stream now. All I can say is what happened to ARTPOP?! It sounded so much better live at the iTunes Festival. I used to sing it fiercely...the album version I just can't!
 

3phemeral

Member
Listening to iTunes stream now. All I can say is what happened to ARTPOP?! It sounded so much better live at the iTunes Festival. I used to sing it fiercely...the album version I just can't!

I think most everyone hates the album version and prefers the booming "Come to me" vocals of the iTunes version over the album track, aside from godelsmetric.
 

Dr. Malik

FlatAss_
I'm keeping the iTunes Festival versions of Artpop and Sex Dreams (Sexxx Dreams does not exist in my mind). Surprisingly I'm okay with the new version of Manicure, I even think it's better. Jewels N' Drug and Swine I dont even use so I dont care for them. The demo version of Aura will also replace the final, and I will continue using Gaga's old Fashion song instead of the new one

Now if only I could replace them on the CD >_>
 

i_am_ben

running_here_and_there
not sure why everyone dislikes fashion! To me its a really fun and happy song. Something that has been sorely missing since telephone.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
not sure why everyone dislikes fashion! To me its a really fun and happy song. Something that has been sorely missing since telephone.

Fashion! Has grown on me more than any other song. I thought it was bland filler at first but it's climbing up the rankings at a rapid pace

As for swinefest songs, I think I'll swap out the album version of Jewels and Drugs and Swine for Swinefest. I like sexxdreams but I just wish she'd repeat the line 'Making love in my sex dreams' just one more time. I'm not to keen on ARTPOP either so I don't really care about that one and Manicure is an improvement

As it stands right now, ARTPOP is my favourite album from her, and dope aside I really like everything
 

Nemesis_

Member
the title "Artpop" is so ill-fitting for this album. She should have titled the album "Aphrodite". Unfortch for Gagita, Kylie already has an album with that title

I was thinking this in the car earlier - "Goddess" or something would've fit perfectly given how many references there are in most of the songs. Especially the opening ones.

I'm liking Dope a bit more, but her voice is still a bit much on it.
 

Phreaker

Member
November 4th 2013 (iTunes Stream)

Did this happen? I can't seem to stream the whole thing via iTunes, only preview the tracks that are already available.

EDIT: Oh, never mind, found it - iTunes Radio. :)
 
I was thinking this in the car earlier - "Goddess" or something would've fit perfectly given how many references there are in most of the songs. Especially the opening ones.

I'm liking Dope a bit more, but her voice is still a bit much on it.

Yeah I'm sure critics will be kind to her for calling her album "Goddess" :p

People are already ripping into her for having the audacity to call pop music "art." Which... it is. lol
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
What performances do we have coming up?
 

History

Neo Member
Hearing the opinions, I don't understand:

1. Sexx dreams is OK. But it isn't really that exciting, it doesn't grab you. The CHORUS is not my style.
2. Aura has the CHORUS. That alone makes it a decent song.
3. Swine has a good HOOK. That makes it good.
4. Artpop has a good beat. Don't think of it as a dance song, think of it as a sophisticated song.
5. G.U.Y is good, but not at the same level as the top songs in the Album.
 
The way she sings "I'm sorry and I love you / sing with me 'Bell-Bottom Blue' " is so powerful to me. So much defeat in her voice :(

Dope is definitely in my top 3 for the album. So raw.
 
The way she sings "I'm sorry and I love you / sing with me 'Bell-Bottom Blue' " is so powerful to me. So much defeat in her voice :(

Dope is definitely in my top 3 for the album. So raw.

I actually really love Dope now. Don't know what my top 3 is yet though.

1. Gypsy
2. ???
3. ???
 
Now that I've spent a couple days with the album, I think I'm ready to give the songs a proper ranking.

The Citizen Kane of Music Tier:

Mary Jane Holland

Pretty Good Tier:
Do What U Want
G.U.Y
Sexxx Dreams
ARTPOP
Venus
Gypsy
Donatella

Okay Tier:
Aura
Jewels n' Drugs
Swine
Dope
Applause
MANiCURE

Potential to Still Grow on Me Tier:

Fashion!

So there are no songs I outright hate. A job well done.
 
MJH > Swine > Sexxx Dreams > DWUW > Manicure > Donatella > Fashion > ARTPOP > Venus > G.U.Y. > Applause


I don't need these on the album:
Aura
Jewels n Drugs
Dope
Gypsy

Also Gypsy sounds like every Katy Perry song I've heard.
 
The only tracks I really didn't care for were Gypsy (boring and "IMA IMA IMA GYPSY IMA IM" sounds sort of jarring and no-effort) and ArtPOP (also boring). Venus is probably still my #1, but I also love Swine, Dope, and Jewels and Drugs... I feel like the songs I like the most are the ones everyone else hates. <_< A great album though, no need to skip any except the two I mentioned. But I'll be surprised if they don't grow on me later, since I only listened to them once so far.
 
I can see the Katy comparison in just the sense of Gypsy being very radio friendly.

If it recalls anything musically speaking, it reminds me of a Born This Way song. It's quite dad rock sonically.
 

Nev

Banned
I told you, Gypsy is the most radio friendly. That's why it may remind you of Katy Perry; she (or whoever does them) does safe radio friendly songs to slay them charts with the help of brainless teenagers and not so teen.
not sure why everyone dislikes fashion! To me its a really fun and happy song. Something that has been sorely missing since telephone.

I also told you Fashion! is not as bad as everybody says and it's in fact good and certainly better than Aura, Manicure, Swine etc.
The chorus on Sexxx Dreams might be the catchiest I've heard all year

Nah actually it's basically Beautiful, Dirty, Rich. Except lazy, slow and boring.

PS: Artpop's really grown on me. That bridge.
 

Matt_

World's #1 One Direction Fan: Everyone else in the room can see it, everyone else but you~~~
MJH > Swine > Sexxx Dreams > DWUW > Manicure > Donatella > Fashion > ARTPOP > Venus > G.U.Y. > Applause


I don't need these on the album:
Aura
Jewels n Drugs
Dope
Gypsy

Also Gypsy sounds like every Katy Perry song I've heard.

The most damning thing I think I've seen about this album. Just vicious.
 
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