targetpractice
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Do we have any idea if that "final fantasy killer" RPG Verendus mentioned is still happening? Don't get me wrong, I want to believe it is, but that post is over a year and a half old at this point.
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Lets talk about Sonys First Party Studios and their upcoming Projects
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Nightengale
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Games take a looong time to make.
For all we know, maybe its still in preproduction.
For all we know, maybe its still in preproduction.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I never saw that post. What did he say exactly?
Yuuuup. It's just a bunch of mental masturbation.
Maybe
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=149105747&postcount=61
Someone else mentioned that Level 5's E3 game could be Ni no Kuni 2 since the first game sold better in the west.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Many thanks.
LiquidSolid
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FuturLab is third party, so doesn't really have much to do with Sony.
But Queasy Games still have one more game on their Sony deal (they signed a three game deal, like thatgamecompany and Giant Sparrow), so they'll definitely be working on something. I doubt the Sound Shapes DLC takes up much of their time (assuming it isn't outsourced in the first place).
targetpractice
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A Ni No Kuni sequel doesn't sound like something so radical that they wouldn't do anything like it again if it bombs though. Plus, wasn't the first one developed by Level-5, not Studio Japan?
Napalm_Frank
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If we are going by the rumours there is a not so surprising lack of big Morpheus titles. Sony is going to send the thing to die and hoping indies and small titles will carry the thing.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Hopefully it will be independent studios that make the bulk of its content. We need it to be refreshing not rehashing.
Yes, but someone suggested another possibility of what their E3 game could be.
Personally, I think that rumor might be true.
schaft0620
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I just hope they give games like Infamous and Killzone a few more years off, at least.
Benzychenz
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This really drills home to me how much I dislike Sony's first party studios.
There's three I like: Media Molecule, Naughty Dog, Japan Studio.
Naughty Dog and Japan Studio though I should just cross off the list, the last release I really liked from each are Jak 3 (2004) and Shadow of the Colossus (2005) (excluding collaborations with other studios like Demon's Souls). How depressing :\
There's three I like: Media Molecule, Naughty Dog, Japan Studio.
Naughty Dog and Japan Studio though I should just cross off the list, the last release I really liked from each are Jak 3 (2004) and Shadow of the Colossus (2005) (excluding collaborations with other studios like Demon's Souls). How depressing :\
XxRampage07xX
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I doubt the Morpheus will be commercially available until late 2016. So I can understand the lack of games for the device. As it is not ready, there will not be many studios working on it.
targetpractice
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Maybe so. If Sony is as worried that the project may fail as Verendus said they are, it would make sense to collaborate with another publisher to try and minimize the risk, at least a little bit.
I think it's more that Morpheus is not going to be released in the immediate future, so there's no reason to announce any big games for it yet. At least that's the impression I've gotten.
jackissocool
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Before that announcement I was 100% sure they were actively developing it. The game did well in all respects and with the movie coming, I thought another game was pretty much guaranteed. That post was a heartbreaker. I can only really imagine two possibilities:
The game hadn't started development yet at the time of that post, but Sanzaru will be making it. If it started around now, that's a totally reasonable dev time for that sort of game, especially with the engine and stuff established for Thieves in Time. But, then, why make that post? Had Sony just not contacted them yet? I mean, we know they're making a PS4 game.
Now, if it's not Sanzaru, there's only one alternative, since Sly 5 must be coming: Sucker Punch wants to go back to the franchise. It would require a smaller team than inFamous, and would probably be a good side project. I can't imagine Sony choosing anyone else over Sanzaru.
I mean, they're third party, but they're basically best pals with SCEE. They work in a university with Sony in a PlayStation development classroom. They publish mostly PlayStation exclusive games. Their fans are on PlayStation. Whatever game they're making will almost certainly be exclusive.
Big unknown Yes. There is also some SEGA project he talked about - not sure if that game has been announced or not.
I'm Awesome
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I hope the open world horror is fallout style man that will be a killer ip and the Dino rpg is already winner in my opinion
They are independent, and own their IP, but they did sign an unspecified deal with Sony to develop for the Vita. Saying a quality third party studio like FuturLab doesn't have much to do with Sony is like saying Insomniac is also negligible. Without those two developers I may have never owned a few of my Sony consoles.
LiquidSolid
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Sure but they self-publish their titles and their games can come out on PC (Velocity Ultra did, after all).
I just feel like as soon as you start including them then you start muddying the waters of who should be included and who shouldn't. I mean, do we include NIS then? They're basically PS exclusive.
No, it isn't. Insomniac were second party for years and years, developing games that Sony funded and owned. And even though they aren't as close with Sony as they used to be, they still do R&C games.
There's a huge difference between them and a Pub Funded developer like Futurlab.
Sony/Capcom is now out with Street Fighter. The unannounced TPS is done with Jaffe's new game.
This year, you'll likely be able to remove the RPGs from there too since the unannounced three will probably be out in the open, and that includes the two JRPGs I mentioned long ago. Although one of them is pretty much "plans subject to change" so please don't send me a dozen PMs insulting me if you don't see everything. It's great to be passionate, but still weird. Also, you all should stop calling the second one a FF killer. It's just kind of wrong really. How would you feel if I said that about you? And as we know, games and pieces of plastic have feelings.
Most of that list will likely end up trimmed this year to be honest.
That post links to a huge thread so I'm not sure what post you're referencing, but if I mentioned something Power Stone being announced soon, it's to do with the CyberConnect2 exclusive that should have been announced in December for PS3/PS4. It's a cartoon game which most people probably don't even know of, and would probably find underwhelming. I don't actually remember the name either. To be fair, I'm not even sure if it's been announced now.
Big Green Anus
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ok then. Will include them separately
Here is another List with from Verendus about third party exclusive games
its obvious that Lockstarter = Rockstar
and Lazyeye = Activision
I agree that Lazyeye is Activision, but I don't know how Lockstarter equals Rockstar
What do you mean trimmed? Are they going to announce most of it (or something opposite)?
And what category do games like Wild fall under?
You know, ever since the whole "project beast" thing your hints have kind of dried off. I would love for some more of your cryptic messages. It is always fun to realize what your clues mean after the game is finally announced.
MastaKilla
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I loved what Sony first party had to offer in the PS2 gen. I don't know If it's just because I was so much younger or what, but most of this stuff just doesn't really excite me.
Trimmed as in they'll be announced.
I also think you're confusing me for the poetry man. "Beast" is Bloodborne, and I'm pretty certain I've never referred to it with that moniker since that's not the kind of thing I'd do.
The list referenced unannounced titles that are coming soon, which are Sony exclusive titles, and where SCE is involved in some manner. Most of it is stuff I've probably mentioned here and there on GAF (such as the RPGs, the Capcom exclusive, the Sega exclusives etc). It's not a comprehensive list either. Wild doesn't fall under any category in that list.
HellofaMouse
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isnt it time polyphony made something other than gran turismo already?
also, who are second party studios exactly? quantic dream, ready at dawn, and who else?
also, who are second party studios exactly? quantic dream, ready at dawn, and who else?
Nightengale
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Devs we know still have contractual obligations to make Sony exclusives, are Quesy and Giant Sparrow.
Housemarque?
Doctor_Thomas
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No... as if they need any more distractions.
Yes, they made a few other titles in the past, but Gran Turismo is basically a licence to print money and the studio seem to care as much about the car culture as the games.
GarciaHotspur
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Level 5 never said that their PS4 game is an exclusive one.
So we are down to:
3 RPG's unannounced. (1 from Studio Japan (JRPG w/ western appeal), 1 from Level 5 prob (so 2 JRPG - it's either Ni no Kuni or Dark Cloud - almost confirmed now
, Guerilla's RPG)2 Horror unannounced (Sony Bend open-world horror and an unknown (Silent Hills @StrongBlackWide?))
3 Action/Adventure (all unannounced, one will be the GOW shake-up)
1 Platformer (Ratcher and Clack Reboot? or Sly 5? or none of those two - Activision rebooting Crash would be a surprise)
1 Arcade racer (unannounced - gotta be Wipeout - San Diego is too busy with Killstrain/MLB to handle a new mod-nation racers - too early for Evolution to announce another racer)
1 Stealth (unannounced - no idea)
1 Brawler (unannounced - think like that old PS1 game Fighting Force)
1 Fighter (unannounced - PS All Stars 2?)
TLG does not fit any of those
It could fit action/adventure but it's more of a puzzle platformer from the original videos.Guerrila Cambridge supposedly taking reigns on Killzone does not fit this list at all. No FPS mentioned. Can't be Starhawk either - all TPS announced. Process of elimination say: ____________ . Multi-million selling franchise that's not a FPS/TPS...Verendus you're sure you got this list right?
StrongBlackVine
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So we are down to:
3 RPG's unannounced. (1 from Studio Japan (JRPG w/ western appeal), 1 from Level 5 prob, Guerilla's RPG)
2 Horror unannounced (Sony Bend open-world horror and an unknown)
3 Action/Adventure (all unannounced, one will be the GOW shake-up)
1 Platformer (Ratcher and Clack Reboot? or Sly 5? or none of those two)
1 Arcade racer (unannounced - gotta be Wipeout - San Diego is too busy with Killstrain to handle a mod-nation racers - too early for Evo to announce another racer)
1 Stealth (unannounced - no idea)
1 Brawler (unannounced - think like that old PS1 game Fighting Force)
1 Fighter (unannounced - PS All Stars 2?)
TLG does not fit any of those
Is Silent Hills considered known?
Nightengale
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The problem with Verendus's list is well... It's not exhaustive. So when Wattam gets announced, unless he tells us it's not part of his list, then we're left guessing.
Nope but Konami going exclusive? That'll be big.
Black Duke
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I think Evo will work on Wipeout in between DRIVECLUB releases...
Good looking list with plenty of studios not showing their hands yet.
I really want everybody's golf this year, and hopefully Gt7 (or at least a prologue). Other than that I,m happy with whatever we get.
I'm not going to scream for new IP from Sony because IMO they are very good at delivering a broad range of titles big/small, trusted IP/new IP, safe/interesting.
I really want everybody's golf this year, and hopefully Gt7 (or at least a prologue). Other than that I,m happy with whatever we get.
I'm not going to scream for new IP from Sony because IMO they are very good at delivering a broad range of titles big/small, trusted IP/new IP, safe/interesting.
That's a good point. But it's mostly a pretty deliberate list. You could eliminate pretty much all of it if you've seen other posts of mine since I've referenced these titles in one way or another in the past two years. I'm pretty sure I remember saying Street Fighter on next gen was in development back in 2013 or something, and that there's a Capcom exclusive. Add it up and you get your Sony/Capcom project which is the fighting game in that list for example.
I just don't give the relevant information in one post or in the same time frame. This way people always end up confused so it's next to impossible to keep on top of it, or even know what I've said, which is why it's good. Since I'm sure I've said a lot, and I've forgotten half of what I've said.
The remaining titles on that list are all retail, and notable titles. So you don't need to look at digital titles or small titles. Jaffe's game was the smallest one in there also.
LiquidSolid
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Second party is a made-up term, so the definition differs from person to person. But if we're saying that second parties are simply third parties who are working on first party IPs, then Sony's second parties would include:
Arrowhead Game Studios (Helldivers)
The Bartlet Jones Supernatural Detective Agency (Drawn to Death)
The Chinese Room (Everybody's Gone to the Rapture)
Clap Hanz (Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf)
FROM Software (Bloodborne)
Fun Bits Interactive (Fat Princess Adventures)
Funomena (Wattam)
Giant Sparrow (What Remains of Edith Finch)
Heavy Spectrum (Shadow of the Beast)
Housemarque (Alienation, Super Stardust Ultra)
Insomniac Games (Ratchet & Clank)
On The Metal (BigFest)
Ovosonico (???)
Q-Games (The Tomorrow Children)
Quantic Dream (???)
Queasy Games (???)
Ready at Dawn (The Order: 1886)
Supermassive Games (Until Dawn)
Tarsier Studios (Hunger)
Tequila Works (Rime)
Valkyrie Entertainment (Guns Up!)
Wild Sheep (WiLD)
I'm sure there are a few others who have signed deals with Sony but haven't announced anything yet though.
That's a lot of money Sony is putting in the industry supporting third party developers.
That makes it even easier to get that list narrowed down. You sure there are no unannounced retail FPS/TPS?
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