Rocket Punch
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The AC community is Japan must be absolutely HUGE.
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didn't somebody say that there were only 81k available for DSlite at launch?
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DSL 68000
DS 49000
PSP 43000
It's sort of amusing that people are "disappointed" by those ds sales. 117000 is rather a lot of DS for 1 week isn't it?
I can't imagine being one of the 49000 people that said "No DSlite? Fuck it, give me a DSheavy" though.
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DSL 68000
DS 49000
PSP 43000
It's sort of amusing that people are "disappointed" by those ds sales. 117000 is rather a lot of DS for 1 week isn't it?
I can't imagine being one of the 49000 people that said "No DSlite? Fuck it, give me a DSheavy" though.
Holy shit, Rockman Rockman didn't even make the top50?
I really like the PSP, but that's it: Sony, please stop production of your system and officially announce it as dead. You're just causing the death of gaming along with Nintendo at this point since NO ONE WILL BUY GAMES ON YOUR SYSTEM even if they are the best games ever made.
Rockman Rockman = One of the best handheld games that's ever been made and the best Megaman EVER...yet like 10 people bought it and I can probably name 4 of them
I really like the PSP, but that's it: Sony, please stop production of your system and officially announce it as dead. You're just causing the death of gaming along with Nintendo at this point since NO ONE WILL BUY GAMES ON YOUR SYSTEM even if they are the best games ever made.
Rockman Rockman = One of the best handheld games that's ever been made and the best Megaman EVER...yet like 10 people bought it and I can probably name 4 of them
kallisto76
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what about PSP Valkyrie Profile? has it been reviewed by famitsu?
Bebpo said:Holy shit, Rockman Rockman didn't even make the top50?
I really like the PSP, but that's it: Sony, please stop production of your system and officially announce it as dead. You're just causing the death of gaming along with Nintendo at this point since NO ONE WILL BUY GAMES ON YOUR SYSTEM even if they are the best games ever made.
Rockman Rockman = One of the best handheld games that's ever been made and the best Megaman EVER...yet like 10 people bought it and I can probably name 4 of them
lol. capcom's president did declare PSP the future. Lets see if it can survive this onslaught
as for rockman rockman, the demo ... with megaman x MH, left me feeling really revolted with the direction capcom took. Ugly ass set (what is up with the bricks/blocks), ugly design of critters and ridiculous explosions.
I played it and went WTF, you should too.
Howard Alan Treesong
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Jax said:
I played the full retail game, not the warmed-over TGS demo!
Then I went WTF at the sales.
You should too!
EmCeeGramr
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Whether or not children of mana didnt sell to a percentage of the userbase what valkyrie profile did or whatever other bs you guys can come up with
The fact is, children of mana sold more
And thats all that matters to the third parties. Gee, its almost like the damage control attempts made by gamecube supporters in the last generation.
The fact is, children of mana sold more
And thats all that matters to the third parties. Gee, its almost like the damage control attempts made by gamecube supporters in the last generation.
Viewtiful Darkness
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Archie said:So third party games do SO MUCH BETTER on PSP, right?
Resident Evil Deadly Silence(Nintendo DS) and Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max both came out the same day in Japan. Resident Evil Deadly Silence sold 27k it's first week out and Street Fighter Alpha 3 only sold 12,000 copies it's first week out. The highest selling third party game on PSP in Japan has sold nearly 500k and the highest selling third party Nintendo DS game in Japan has sold over a million copies.
shhh, don't let people know that. And the only million selling third party game was a "non-game" so it obviously doesn't count!Viewtiful Darkness said:
I still think SE is probably close to at least breaking even on CoM, or they will break even by the time the game runs out of steam. I doubt that game cost them that much to make. (But if I'm wrong, let me know)Ceb said:
Bebpo said:Holy shit, Rockman Rockman didn't even make the top50?
I really like the PSP, but that's it: Sony, please stop production of your system and officially announce it as dead. You're just causing the death of gaming along with Nintendo at this point since NO ONE WILL BUY GAMES ON YOUR SYSTEM even if they are the best games ever made.
Rockman Rockman = One of the best handheld games that's ever been made and the best Megaman EVER...yet like 10 people bought it and I can probably name 4 of them
Why are you surprised? IHX did insanely horrible a few months back so that should of given you some indication of how well RR would do. I agree that Rockman Rockman has way more replayability and content than IHX but people think its the same old megaman regardless. There is a small chance that word of mouth will make it climb the charts but most people have no idea how nice of a package it truely is. Unfortunately the game will most likely bomb in the west also. It is probably one of the best remakes anyone has ever done but most gamers really just don't care. GnG will follow the same fate.
Now if Capcom wanted to make a Rockman game that would sell gangbusters the first step was to not center the main design of the game around any One Megaman. My idea is similiar to Rockman Rockman in mechanics with some fundamental differences and additions to attract more portable gamers. Ever since I played Rockman Forte and saw all the Boss character profiles I wanted Capcom to make this game. Capcom should of designed a brand new Megaman (I know RR feels brand new but it is still being marketed as a remake) with the exact same graphic style as RR but toss in dozens and dozens of playable droids/reploids (old and new). Include the ability to trade parts and upgrades with one another to really customize your character even the visual aesthetics so that players can develop a personalized identity with their reploid.
Customizing would be simple but intuitive basically just have Head, Chest, Arms and Legs all interchangeable. No right arm left arm seperation just one set of arms and legs. Head determines reploid type while Arms determine weapon, Chest determins armor and Legs determine speed. Head type is important for upgrades because the upgrades would be X style. So you could do something like give Protoman Dr. Lights upgrades or give Roll Willey's upgrades for different affects but upgrades can only be activated through charging a super meter during battle ala SFIII so it will be like choosing a super art from your selection of upgrades before a match which brings me to the main game.
The main game should of been designed around an online Power Battle style theme where your character can win items, rare parts, upgrades and money to use in a shop. I imagine battles of everything from 1on1, 2on2, 4on4 and even throw in handicap-matches for high ranked players like 3on1. They could even build upon the level creator and have the server host load up a homemade map with him as the boss while other players team up to beat his stage and face the boss and maybe even give the server host minor control over enemy scrubs in real-time.
The offline portion would be a mix between the 100 levels mode in Rockman Rockman and SFAIII Upper where you can fight an infinite amount of Bosses (thanks to the customizeable parts and upgrades there would be an infinite amount of combinations the computer can randomize for you to fight) and give a sense of progression by slowly leveling up your character for online rankings. This way they can still include the regular Boss stages and 100 levels (if not infinite) but doesn't have to be marketed as being a remake.
I know some people will cry out Blasphemy when it sounds like this would be attempting to Pokefy the megaman series ie. Battle Network but thats not what I am describing. I'm talking about a good ol fashion Megaman game at its core with very fast, twitch gameplay and where skill, reflexes and ingenious use of weapons and upgrades will determine the outcome of the battle rather than the level of your character. The most leveling your character would do is give you an online ranking and maybe give you access to more slots to equip different weapon types. So a Level 1 character can equip 3 types of weapons and a level 60 character can equip 5 or 6 types of weapons but no matter how many weapons they will all stilll share one weapon gauge during a match. Thats it.
This game wouldn't be that hard to balance imo because everything they need to build this game is already there in the MM universe. I garuntee this game would of sold hundreds of thousands of copies in every region while keeping the fans of Rockman Rockman very happy. Looking at the difference between IHX and Rockman Rockman Capcom Inafune is on the right track but he still has a littler more to understand about portable gamers tastes but he is indeed very close.
It's sad. I'll definitely be getting nd EU or US version.Bebpo said:Holy shit, Rockman Rockman didn't even make the top50?
I really like the PSP, but that's it: Sony, please stop production of your system and officially announce it as dead. You're just causing the death of gaming along with Nintendo at this point since NO ONE WILL BUY GAMES ON YOUR SYSTEM even if they are the best games ever made.
Rockman Rockman = One of the best handheld games that's ever been made and the best Megaman EVER...yet like 10 people bought it and I can probably name 4 of them
Btw. when can we see some screens of people's own levels? I'd love to see the Super Mario levels.
Viewtiful Darkness said:
In this particular case though, how much have Street Fighter games been selling compared to Res Evil games as of late? I'm not really seeing SFA being nearly as popular as Res Evil, even though the Res Evil series has been dropping in sales during recent years. I'm sure there are better examples....
Chibbi Brady
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It's difficult ot predict where CoM will end up. If there had been 300k-400k units of the DSL available at launch, it's numbers would surely have been higher. Seeing as though the DS is going to sell over 100k for the next month, the normal drop of 70% or so, might be much lower and we'll see CoM sell 50k for a few weeks yet. Of course, it could drop to 20k next week and finish with less than 150k, but only time will tell.
Shame about Rockman Rockman. Looks so bloody good, can't wait to pick it up. MHP continues to have fantastic legs, another 21,000 this week. Might have an outside chance of hitting 1m if these insane legs continue.
Shame about Rockman Rockman. Looks so bloody good, can't wait to pick it up. MHP continues to have fantastic legs, another 21,000 this week. Might have an outside chance of hitting 1m if these insane legs continue.
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kia said:
kia said:
Here's a bet for you, I'll bet you a 2 week ban that I don't like posters calling other posters morons.
I win
Anyone who thinks FFXII will outsell AC:WW is insane. FFX came out when PS2 was ruling and still pretty new. Plus it was the first "next-gen" Final Fantasy. FFXII doesn't have this. It's coming out when PS2 is on it's last legs and after we already got FF's this gen. It will have the same problem KHII faced. It will sell an INSANE amount week one and then drop off while AC:WW stays put on the chart. That one week or two will have amazing sells but then it will drop off while AC:WW slowly continues to build it's sales.
Magicpaint
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Children of Mana has not bombed, it's funny we're hearing these comments from mostly those who didn't like the DS in the first place. Over 100K a week can't be that bad, sure most of us expected it to beat SoM, but the fact that it only fell a little short doesn't mean it has flopped. Let's see where it settles at first.
Oh and who are those expecting monstrous DSLite sales? I guess many people didn't hear of the ridiculously low initial shipments for the thing.
Oh and who are those expecting monstrous DSLite sales? I guess many people didn't hear of the ridiculously low initial shipments for the thing.
No way it will outsell FFX. The market place is vastly different now. PS2 is nowhere near as big when it comes to selling software as it was when FFX came out and FFXII doesn't have the hype of being the first next-gen FF.Orgen said:I think that FF XII will outsell FF X... somewhere between FF X (3.0 m) and DQ VIII (3.5), so 3.2 is my bet
All you have to do when talking about 3rd party titles is look at how they sell on each system compared to the fanbase. All we have is rough estimates but it still paints the picture.
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=88872
DS 3.8 million~ in 3rd party software witha fanabse of 6 million
PSP 3.6 million~ in 3rd party software with a fanbase of 3 million.
But you also have to consider that average 3rd party title sold favors DS by quite a bit (72k vs 55k) But then take away teh top title for each, the average becomes much closer.
So i guess you can say tehy sell the same
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=88872
DS 3.8 million~ in 3rd party software witha fanabse of 6 million
PSP 3.6 million~ in 3rd party software with a fanbase of 3 million.
But you also have to consider that average 3rd party title sold favors DS by quite a bit (72k vs 55k) But then take away teh top title for each, the average becomes much closer.
So i guess you can say tehy sell the same
Cheebs said:
Well, but from when FF X came out to FF XII will come out, there will be like... ¿5 million PS2+?
And there has been a lot of million sellers for the PS2 since the FF X launch (like WE, GT, DW, KH...) and two very big sellers like FF X-2 and DQ VIII. Why couldn't FF XII reach the sales levels of DQ VIII? It's the most anticipated game in Japan for almost 3 years.
PD: Sorry for my bad English
Heian-kyo said:
Why?
SE will support whichever console is bringing in the most cash for them. So if one of them is not turning enough money for them they will cut support for it as they should. Why should a company continue to support a userbase that does not want their games just because YOU want them to?
This board is classic. If SE was supporting a Sony system or handheld the most and somebody said that they should support a Nintendo/MS console or handheld the most everyone would jump down their throats and say buy a PS2 or buy a PSP but when any company shows any support to somebody other than Sony everyone has to downplay it like its no big deal and make it sound like its a mistake not showing Sony support.
I would advice keeping in mind that both Seiken Densetsu CoM as Nintendo DS.lite were released on March 2nd. That's only two days worth of sales (most shops are closed on Sunday).
Next to that, shipments might have been low for Seiken Densetsu, so we might see even better sales next week.
Next to that, shipments might have been low for Seiken Densetsu, so we might see even better sales next week.
Monorojo said:
You have to consider profit into the equation though. Not only the DS 3rd party games sell more in regards to total numbers, but their production budgets are much smaller. DS software is simply more profitable for 3rd parties (and insanely moreso for 1st and 2nd parties).
Duckhuntdog
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Archie said:
That game not only rocks, but is so useful in these types of threads as well. :lol
RamzaIsCool
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Isn't FFXII like twice as expensive to purchase as AC on the DS, so 2.5 million copies of FFXII >>> 2.5 million copies AC (if you look to the grosses). That said FFXII won't reach the sales of FFX....sadly
I hoping though that the quality of the game will generate some positive word of mouth, so maybe FFXII won't be an instant seller, but it might have longer legs then the other FF titles.
I hoping though that the quality of the game will generate some positive word of mouth, so maybe FFXII won't be an instant seller, but it might have longer legs then the other FF titles.