Motorstorm Apocalypse Review thread
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DeadRockstar
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My main problem was that I found nothing exciting about the demo track. If I'm going to be forced into urban environments, I at least want them to be spectacular and it just felt so bland. It's tripping me out that it sounds like they could have put any other track in the demo and I'd be way more hyped.
BeeDog said:
Yeah. Basicall it's story is shit, music is shit, racing isn't fun or at least not as good as it were in PR. Also there is too much shit going on.
@MMRasu
Why not? Motorstorm IS what the devs want it to be. What would be your favorite setting? Another PR like? Or in the desert again? Everyone would have said, oh yeah, motorstorm, more of the same, meh.
Lagspike_exe
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6/10 is an absolut joke. This is the best Motorstorm by far.Afrikan said:
DeadRockstar
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Thrakier said:
I know you didn't ask me, but come on you know this isn't true. A game isn't whatever a dev wants it to be. Look at Mortal Kombat from 3 until now. Almost universally hated and it's taken until MK9 for people to be hyped again.
As for setting, honestly a similar theme to PR but with disasters/weather effects and track deformation would have rocked for me. You're right though, the devs wanted to do something totally different and that's cool too, as long as it's good.
Lagspike_exe
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It's the best Motorstorm ever.DeadRockstar said:
NullPointer
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I would've been more than happy with PR++, with new modes, vehicles, unlockables and challenges. Throw in a basic cockpit view, snow, dynamic weather, cave driving, and a few city based levels. Hell, go nuts and put a track on Mars if you want.Thrakier said:
As it is though I'll probably end up picking this one up sometime soon. I <3 Motorstorm.
DeadRockstar said:
I'm pretty sure it is. Sorry, won't change my opinion on that. I want to get what those people imagine. I don't want to get what I'm imagining I should get. Your MK thing isn't entirely valid because it basically was MK everytime (they didn't change that much, did they?), just worse.
MiniBossBattle
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I know its a silly question but will there be any tracks from the previous Motorstorm games?
MMaRsu said:I'm actually more the kind of man who admires all sorts of different tracks. Desert, PR like, and some city stuff wouldn't have been bad. I like diversity.
From what I've seen so far there is diversity. Not as much as in PR though, they had four different themes going. You can't do this everytime. So they chose a new theme I guess...
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Having played it now for a couple of hours I'll say this:
The story mode is so shit I hope the people responsible for the aweful comics and the guy who approved of this gets fired and never again work in the industry. If the Evolution team needs inspiration on how to construct an over-the-top story for the apocalypse play Brütal Legend and listen to the Legend of Ormagadden stories. That's how you do cartoon cool. In fact, all you need is the guy who did the voice over for the intro in Motorstorm 1 talking about engines and you have a story.
Action was always the strongest suit with Motorstorm and I've always regarded it as an action game first and a racer second. This is very true of Apocalypse and it really works out great. The racing is fast, brutal and lush. The pacing is awesome and the variation in tracks and vehicles are balanced.
I can see how people will rate down this since there are so many things that stand out as bad. The "story" mode being one. Hopefully they'll patch those out so that noone needs none the wiser. It also isn't sure exactly who this is marketed to. It seems to me that I'm one of the people who should be on that list and I've skipped every single "cut-scene" and I cringe at the animesque loading screens. I like engines, action and visual fidelity--it's there but you have to wade through some shit to get there.
2011 is starting to let me down. Killzone 3 was medicore most of the time, Dragon Age 2 was a rush-job that shouldn't have been released, and Motorstorm 3 has animesque drawings and cartoons... thank god for LittleBigPlanet 2.
The story mode is so shit I hope the people responsible for the aweful comics and the guy who approved of this gets fired and never again work in the industry. If the Evolution team needs inspiration on how to construct an over-the-top story for the apocalypse play Brütal Legend and listen to the Legend of Ormagadden stories. That's how you do cartoon cool. In fact, all you need is the guy who did the voice over for the intro in Motorstorm 1 talking about engines and you have a story.
Action was always the strongest suit with Motorstorm and I've always regarded it as an action game first and a racer second. This is very true of Apocalypse and it really works out great. The racing is fast, brutal and lush. The pacing is awesome and the variation in tracks and vehicles are balanced.
I can see how people will rate down this since there are so many things that stand out as bad. The "story" mode being one. Hopefully they'll patch those out so that noone needs none the wiser. It also isn't sure exactly who this is marketed to. It seems to me that I'm one of the people who should be on that list and I've skipped every single "cut-scene" and I cringe at the animesque loading screens. I like engines, action and visual fidelity--it's there but you have to wade through some shit to get there.
2011 is starting to let me down. Killzone 3 was medicore most of the time, Dragon Age 2 was a rush-job that shouldn't have been released, and Motorstorm 3 has animesque drawings and cartoons... thank god for LittleBigPlanet 2.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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What trick is this?!! :lol :lolchalkitdown1 said:
littleornothin
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Afrikan said:
Translated from danish to swedish to english:
Graphics: 7
Gameplay: 6
Sound: 6
Lasting appeal: 5 (wtf.. online anyone?)
Average: 6/10
Good:
Clever track layout, lots of chaos
Bad:
Bad physics, not enough variation, quickly gets uninteresting
Also heard that gamereactor in sweden gave it a 5/10 for graphics.. but that review was pulled.
It is a free magazine and Microsoft are the biggest sponsor.. who knows..
Speedymanic
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shagg_187 said:
It essentially stops the AI from cheating. One of the devs or someone close to the devs brought it up on another forum. Look back and it will stop the rubber band AI from kicking in.
Heavens forbid they put some work in developing decent AI. :/
I am very dissapointed from the demo but that balances out with the awesome full version youtube movies.
I am dissapointed by the reviews but happy with what people write here.
Due to the fact the story mode seems to be shit i think there is no point buying this day 1.
I will wait for a price drop or get it cheap somewhere.
Shame they fucked this one up.
Shame also that no one stands up and says this gen should end now because technological limitations and the sea of rehashing of engines and gameplay.
I am dissapointed by the reviews but happy with what people write here.
Due to the fact the story mode seems to be shit i think there is no point buying this day 1.
I will wait for a price drop or get it cheap somewhere.
Shame they fucked this one up.
Shame also that no one stands up and says this gen should end now because technological limitations and the sea of rehashing of engines and gameplay.
ObnoxiousZebra
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The full game is fucking FANTASTIC. omgawd! Easily my favourite Motorstorm game so far. The story mode is shit, but isn't that to be expected? It's a racing game!
Some of these tracks are awesome. <3 Very impressed with this game. 3D makes it all even sweeter.
Some of these tracks are awesome. <3 Very impressed with this game. 3D makes it all even sweeter.
Thrakier said:
I don't know what we are doing, but i pay full price for best quality and nothing less.
If devs do a shitty job or invest less then everything they got into a project then i can also do half my part and pay half the price. it's a two way street and the faster more consumers start thinking like this the better quality games we will get.
DA2 is a sad yet perfect example of this. I can't believe the hordes of suckers that payed full price for that abomination.
Another example is Dark souls which is a day 1 purchase even if it costs 300$
Read the interview with Miyazaki on edge and you will understand why he has my full support and trust AND MONEY.
Edit:
The story mode was put in the game for one reason only: cater to a larger audience which in todays gaming crowd consists mostly of ADHD freaks that can't sit down with a computer game unless it has a story to hold their hand, regenerating helath, tutorials, endless ammo , dumbed down controlls and the list goes on and on and on.
i just LOVED the epic introductions of MS and PR and i was so hyped and into the game after those intros even before i pressed the start button.
Sadly enough i guess this kind of story telling or intro doesn't speak to a big part of the consumers today , so evolution decided to make a retarded ani-comic kind of story mode to the game.
It's a fucking racing game, who needs this shit? it was done in one of the need for speeds and it was as retarded there, ( with that SEXY BABE, OH YEAH SEXY BABES SELL VIDEO GAMES)
The devs need to get their retarded act togheter and make games for specific audiences and not try to cater to EVERYYYYONE, i am getting so sick of this.
This and many other reasons is why i will not support day 1 purchases and find the games cheaper.
I bought two copies of demon souls and i will buy as i said dark souls day 1 collectors edition.
I show my money and support and love when i know the developer did the same.
This industry is so rotten and corrupted and focused in most cases only on making money.
as somone who has played and loved video games for 20 years i can see the difference between a fast cash in and a game made with love for the art of it. Actually if people opened their eyes they could see this after playing 5 different games, no need for 20 years experience.
fuck this.
I will buy Apocalypse, but not for 60
littleornothin said:Translated from danish to swedish to english:
Graphics: 7
Gameplay: 6
Sound: 6
Lasting appeal: 5 (wtf.. online anyone?)
Average: 6/10
Good:
Clever track layout, lots of chaos
Bad:
Bad physics, not enough variation, quickly gets uninteresting
Also heard that gamereactor in sweden gave it a 5/10 for graphics.. but that review was pulled.
It is a free magazine and Microsoft are the biggest sponsor.. who knows..
Uh?
I could understand the lasting appeal thing, since it seems to me there are WAY less races than PR in the main mode, but the rest?
Physics are exactly the same as the previous MS, and on the graphics side, it has way less stuttering than the previous games even having an hell of a lot more going on in each track.
On the "quickly gets uninteresting": having a gazillion races in PR festival was the thing that prevented me from playing it trough the end. On 3/4 of the game I was exausted. Having a smaller number of races means you get a grip of the tracks, then you can go for the extreme races once in a while and go for online. So I can actually play more without it getting uninteresting.
Hate the comic book "exxxxxtreme racerz" story gimmick, but that's all.
littleornothin
Neo Member
Mm.. I tend to skip every cutscene too.. But I like the intro/outro races, those actually adds to the whole festival thing.
Online was a bit shaky yesterday.. Some races didn't start, some ended due to connection problems. But when it works it's a load of fun
Online was a bit shaky yesterday.. Some races didn't start, some ended due to connection problems. But when it works it's a load of fun
Lagspike_exe
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There's really no story in the cutscenes. They're only there to pump up the Festival atmosphere which is done by far the best in any Motorstorm yet. You really feel like you belong to a group of crazies who hijacked an aircraft carrier and are sailing around the world looking for thrills.
The only thing I don't like about this game are the long loads (although it may be because I have a promo version, which are prone to long loads/bad printing). Everything else is top notch. I can't believe it has a 78% meta. This is THE Motorstorm game of generation. I really hope Evo will continue improving this game. It's an arcade racer masterpiece.
The only thing I don't like about this game are the long loads (although it may be because I have a promo version, which are prone to long loads/bad printing). Everything else is top notch. I can't believe it has a 78% meta. This is THE Motorstorm game of generation. I really hope Evo will continue improving this game. It's an arcade racer masterpiece.
RoadHazard
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Varth said:
Agreed. I never got through all the races in PR, even though I loved the game, but I don't think I'll have any trouble doing that in this one. I'm already a few races into the medium difficulty campaign (forgot what it's called). And while the story is trash, I like the progression of races. It feels like a much more coherent experience than the seemingly random bunch of races in PR.
Speaking of the visuals, I will say that while it might not be quite as good looking at a glance (jungles are always more impressive to look at than urban environments), there is so much shit going on in this one that it's really quite a bit more impressive than PR when you think about it. Add to that that it also does 3D (which I sadly have no way of taking advantage of), and still looks as good, and that's not a 7/10 in graphics.
Lagspike_exe
Member
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! I just played the Tornado level. Sweet lord have mercy. 
Playing the full version.
Skipping ALL OF THE CUTSCENES, because the art style and the badly animated jiggly boobs are just... wrong.
The number of times the AI cars have boosted themselves on fire is ridiculous. Most of the first races start with half of your rivals fireballing within seconds after the start. Still so awesome though.
Skipping ALL OF THE CUTSCENES, because the art style and the badly animated jiggly boobs are just... wrong.
The number of times the AI cars have boosted themselves on fire is ridiculous. Most of the first races start with half of your rivals fireballing within seconds after the start. Still so awesome though.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
glaurung said:
Yeah, well, the rookie campaign is very, very easy. I won most of the races on the first try, and the rest on the second or so. It's a good way to get eased into the awesome, crazy chaos that is this game.
MMaRsu said:
Wrong. We both just played the demos and watched videos. His opionion is biased because of what he thinks a motorstorm game has to be.
Even a metacritic score of 78% isn' defined as "fucked up" compard to PRs 82% or MS1 84%. 78 WITHOUT american reviews and some overly harsh european ones (5 oder 6/10). So it's likely to go up next month.
And easily just from the demo I can tell that this surely isn't the definiton of a "fuck up".
Besides that, I got my copy today.
littleornothin
Neo Member
Lagspike_exe said:
Even retail has really long loading times.. feels like up to 1 minute..
ElRenoRaven
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littleornothin said:
Meh Load times don't bother me. More so when Motorstorm 1 had some insanely long load times. Hell it had some decently long loadtimes just to load a vehicle at the vehicle selection screen.
Game is fucking perfect so far. Love the new phote mode. Graphics are great. A 5 or 6 for graphics in this game = lost all credibility. If you play frmo the hood game, it looks as if not more spectacular than the old MS. Lighting is great, FSAA as well and the resolution is even higher than in PR and MS. Blur is still there, toned down though. Controls are good so far, it's less moon physics than in MS2 and MS1. It still feels like MS because it's so rough and brutal. Nothing like the clean sterile racing in Split Second. There is no comparioson between those games.
The comics don't bother me...they are "ok" I guess. It helps a bit to understand the whole festival thing going on. You can skip them if you want and just choose the races you want to do in a seperate menu, just like in the old motorstorm games. In the story mode you can unlock special races and collect "cards" on the track. I love stuff like this, seems like there is a lot of content. Factor in the online mode and I guess this game will be in my PS3 for a long time.
Oh, and most epic start of a racing game ever. Really great.
Made some pics:
The comics don't bother me...they are "ok" I guess. It helps a bit to understand the whole festival thing going on. You can skip them if you want and just choose the races you want to do in a seperate menu, just like in the old motorstorm games. In the story mode you can unlock special races and collect "cards" on the track. I love stuff like this, seems like there is a lot of content. Factor in the online mode and I guess this game will be in my PS3 for a long time.
Oh, and most epic start of a racing game ever. Really great.
Made some pics:
MMaRsu said:Well I didn't say this game was gonna be a fuck up, but it certainly is possible it's not as good as previous iterations
Sure that's possible and it's highly subjective. I refered to the "fuck up". The annoying thing is when the negative hyperbole kicks in because people don't get exactly what they thought they would get.
Played the demo and even that was really good...the core racing feels much more better to me than the MS1 and MS
R. And wtf at game looking like crap in those reviews? The game looks great and feels smooth and fast.
This whole series is underrated in my opinion. Its one of the best arcade racer this gen and even overall. And each series they have tried to fix the issues that these so called reviewers have complained about and even then they have more complaints every time. Its like finding faults just for the fun of it.
R. And wtf at game looking like crap in those reviews? The game looks great and feels smooth and fast. This whole series is underrated in my opinion. Its one of the best arcade racer this gen and even overall. And each series they have tried to fix the issues that these so called reviewers have complained about and even then they have more complaints every time. Its like finding faults just for the fun of it.
Interstellar
Neo Member
Cool pictures Thrakier - is that 2011 sony computer entertainment europe mark on every picture in photo mode? - if so smh. :/
Any online impressions yet?
UK delay =
- wonder when the new release date is?
Any online impressions yet?
UK delay =
- wonder when the new release date is?
TabletopTictacs
Member
My friend in Denmark made this fan video of the game today. Will make the wait a bit easier for anyone waiting. It's relaxing; the music is beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZgo...c3gQ2atsmYrzeHIU5INj9aYnmtjF3Q4&feature=inbox
Lagspike_exe
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It destroys them in every imaginable way.MMaRsu said:Well I didn't say this game was gonna be a fuck up, but it certainly is possible it's not as good as previous iterations
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