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New Mario Kart game revealed (Switch 2)

BlackTron

Member
Gran Turismo 7, Horizon 2, Spiderman 2 were all supposed to sell the PS5 but they all went cross gen to make more sales. Now that its backwards compatible, Nintendo is not going to skip the almost most sold console ever crowd when they can make a ton of cash. You can bet your ass N is going to follow Sony and MS with cross gen titles until some time. The bar is so low as to what is allowed to be put on Switch 1, they have no problem putting out games in potato mode just to sell it there. Look at MK1. So new Mario Kart they will make all the sacrifices and sell it there because theres idiots that will buy any crap N puts out.

Wii U was BC with Wii, which was massively successful. Why didn't Wii get Wii U games? Why didn't Wii get New Super Mario Bros U at launch? Didn't they want that install base of Wii for more sales of a basic ass Super Mario game?

Sony doing something is not proof big N will do the same thing.
 
Wii U was BC with Wii, which was massively successful. Why didn't Wii get Wii U games? Why didn't Wii get New Super Mario Bros U at launch? Didn't they want that install base of Wii for more sales of a basic ass Super Mario game?

Sony doing something is not proof big N will do the same thing.

Wii U was a projected flop before it was even released when the public didnt even know what to make of it. They needed every person to switch to Wii U fast. Also Twilight Princess a brand new Zelda came out for both Wii and Wii U. They milked Mario Kart 8 for 10 years, you can bet MK9 is going to be on both Switches.
 
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Robb

Gold Member
Someone should make a thread poll about this being cross-gen or not. I’d vote ‘no’, can’t see the framerate holding up with 24 racers. But maybe they’d be willing to release it at sub 30fps on Switch (or maybe they’ve got it to work at 60fps somehow).
 
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Emedan

Member
Someone should make a thread poll about this being cross-gen or not. I’d vote ‘no’, can’t see the framerate holding up with 24 racers. But maybe they’d be willing to release it at sub 30fps on Switch.
Id be really surprised if this is cross gen. Nintendo don’t do that.
 

BlackTron

Member
Wii U was a projected flop before it was even released when the public didnt even know what to make of it. They needed every person to switch to Wii U fast. Also Twilight Princess a brand new Zelda came out for both Wii and Wii U. They milked Mario Kart 8 for 10 years, you can bet MK9 is going to be on both Switches.

This is the dumbest take ever that Wii U was a projected flop before it was even released, why did they release it then.

"We usually release a really strong Mario to support a console. This time we're gonna launch it with an exclusive 2D Mario because we project the system to be bad, even though the last system can play the same game and we sold 30 million copies of NSMB on it" it's basically contradicting yourself.

Let me guess, next you'll tell me BOTW was cross gen not because Nintendo promised WiiU owners it would come out, but because they wanted to sell more copies to a tiny base of people.

Same deal with Twilight Princess coming out on GameCube, two days after Wii version. They were moving on, didn't really want to do it, and preferred an exclusive game to make you upgrade. It was just as not to become liars. This is the only two times it's happened...and both times it was exactly one game they started making and hyping on the last hardware.

Edit: I think it just dawned on me what is REALLY going on with this crossgen topic.

4 years ago we were lauding Sony as kings for "we believe in generations" vs MS wishy washy strategy. Then they slowly deconstructed that till now everyone just says cross gen and multi plat is "the future".

Nintendo is not allowed to be #1 by sticking to their guns. They need to adopt the same strategy as the competition now, or be ridiculed.
 
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Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
It’d be disappointing for sure. But I mean, Nintendo doesn’t name their systems with just “2/3/4” either, yet here we are.

There’s a first for everything.
Super Switch would have worked better IMHO, but eh… expected some more Nintendo like quirks from Switch 2, but this is likely what people had been calling Switch Pro…
 

delishcaek

Member
Someone should make a thread poll about this being cross-gen or not. I’d vote ‘no’, can’t see the framerate holding up with 24 racers. But maybe they’d be willing to release it at sub 30fps on Switch (or maybe they’ve got it to work at 60fps somehow).
I'd say people really need to hold on to their judgement before we get proper footage (the compression here kills all details) and especially more elaborate courses because the track shown here looks worse than some MK8 tracks. There is nothing going on here.

Just looking at cart and character models however, this supposed MK9 footage here doesn't look any worse than Sonic Racing or Crash Team Racing and both these games also had some really shitty looking tracks. CTR also had a 30fps cap on top of that.
 

BlackTron

Member
Super Switch would have worked better IMHO, but eh… expected some more Nintendo like quirks from Switch 2, but this is likely what people had been calling Switch Pro…

Super Switch maybe for the mid gen refresh. They REALLY need to drive home this is a full gen change. I don't think they could have picked a better name, though my heart says Super Nintendo Switch.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Super Switch maybe for the mid gen refresh. They REALLY need to drive home this is a full gen change. I don't think they could have picked a better name, though my heart says Super Nintendo Switch.
I think this IS the mid gen refresh… allowed to have its exclusive titles… anyways I get their fears but Super Nintendo Switch > Switch 2 for me.
 

SaintALia

Member
This is the dumbest take ever that Wii U was a projected flop before it was even released, why did they release it then.

"We usually release a really strong Mario to support a console. This time we're gonna launch it with an exclusive 2D Mario because we project the system to be bad, even though the last system can play the same game and we sold 30 million copies of NSMB on it" it's basically contradicting yourself.

Let me guess, next you'll tell me BOTW was cross gen not because Nintendo promised WiiU owners it would come out, but because they wanted to sell more copies to a tiny base of people.

Same deal with Twilight Princess coming out on GameCube, two days after Wii version. They were moving on, didn't really want to do it, and preferred an exclusive game to make you upgrade. It was just as not to become liars. This is the only two times it's happened...and both times it was exactly one game they started making and hyping on the last hardware.

Edit: I think it just dawned on me what is REALLY going on with this crossgen topic.

4 years ago we were lauding Sony as kings for "we believe in generations" vs MS wishy washy strategy. Then they slowly deconstructed that till now everyone just says cross gen and multi plat is "the future".

Nintendo is not allowed to be #1 by sticking to their guns. They need to adopt the same strategy as the competition now, or be ridiculed.
DOn't know how this topic came up, and I apologise in advance for butting into this, but I can see what they mean.

The Wii U had a bunch of issues before it released. Likely Nintendo had projections for presales and preorders, and I can't imagine them looking too good past month 2.

They spent years developing the hardware, so it's not like they could just withhold it and cancel it. I think the plan was to release it, weather the bad sales storm for a while, and when the software starts coming around, and pivot the marketing to help people'truly' get it, it will fly off the shelves. And yeah, the SOFTWARE flew off the shelves, but the hardware pretty much stayed put. Didn't help that yet again, third parties abandoned them, leaving Nintendo to do pretty much all the work. I don't even know how many WIi U third party games sold over a million copies.


Only wanted to comment on that bit. DOn't know the rest of context of the conversation to butt in more.

On topic though.

I'm really interested to see where they take this Mario Kart.
24 racers seem cool, don't know if Nintendo's online play infrastrcuture can hold that up yet but okay. The gas and refueling rumour thing sounds interesting. I saw people throwing out Mario Wonder type track transformations, there are lots of ways Nintendo can go with this. But I don't want to speculate too much, Nintendo tends to slip the script a lot, and sometimes people speculate and dream grand dreams and get utterly disappointed when it's nothing like what they dreamt up in their heads.
 
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