Duxxy3
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Wii shipped sales within the first year might as well have been counted as sold through sales.
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November 2014 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 9th
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Wii shipped sales within the first year might as well have been counted as sold through sales.
Aquamarine
Member
Wii Worldwide Shipped Consoles:
Q4 2006 - 3.19 million = 3.19 million LTD
Q1 2007 - 2.65 million = 5.84 million LTD
Q2 2007 - 3.43 million = 9.27 million LTD
Q3 2007 - 3.90 million = 13.17 million LTD
Q4 2007 - 6.96 million = 20.13 million LTD
PS4 Worldwide Shipped Consoles:
Q4 2013 - 4.5 million = 4.5 million LTD
Q1 2014 - 3.0 million = 7.5 million LTD
Q2 2014 - 2.7 million = 10.2 million LTD
Q3 2014 - 3.3 million = 13.5 million LTD
Q4 2014 - (Numbers released on February 4th, 2015)
Trust me. I'm a PhD
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Thanks, as always^^ They will need to ship a little over 6.6 Million between October and January 1st to keep the top shipped spot... that is... doable, but would mean either a sizable amount of hardware on shelves, or that the machine is doing better in the "Tier 2/3 countries" than most are assuming... looking forward to February^^
Welfare
Member
That Wii U number would be terrible.
Aquamarine
Member
And inconsistent with the general YOY gains we've seen all year along.
They didn't have to fight at all for market share in the last gen, Sony delivered it to them on a silver platter and spoon fed them for good measure.
Which was a bit disappointing, but considering the nature of the event, right call from Sony.
It wasn't the right venue and it didn't make sense, numbers will be much bigger than what they could have announced yesterday by the end of this month, just waiting a few extra weeks.
There will be an update for ww sold through in early January.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
[PS4] 750K
[XB1] 820K
[3DS] 430K
[360] 270K
[WIU] 300K
[PS3] 130K
[XB1] 820K
[3DS] 430K
[360] 270K
[WIU] 300K
[PS3] 130K
John Bender
Banned
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
This would be a hilarious "crust on the bread" victory x3
Actually right about at the start they had a ticker on the screen counting up and got to around 14.6 million or something around that before it disappeared off the screen. Thinking that was a hint to sell-through WW numbers as of recent.
Could be wrong, but it feels right. Also glad they didn't gloat about it at the event; not the time or place. Save it for a press release or CES.
No guts, no glory.
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
EDIT: Quoted the wrong picture lol
Meant to reply to the implication that shit will go crazy is PS4 pulls ahead again.
Very unlikely to say the least, but as I have said in a couple of other posts. Both sides of this fence will be glorious entertainment.
Meant to reply to the implication that shit will go crazy is PS4 pulls ahead again.
Very unlikely to say the least, but as I have said in a couple of other posts. Both sides of this fence will be glorious entertainment.
metalslimer
Member
[PS4] 830K
[XB1] 875K
[3DS] 430K
[WIU] 217K
[360] 155K
[PS3] 100k
[XB1] 875K
[3DS] 430K
[WIU] 217K
[360] 155K
[PS3] 100k
Chezzymann
Member
Yeah the Wii definitely has a sizable lead in terms of acceleration at the moment, I don't think the PS4 will match its 20 million number. But I could be wrong.
Also its kind of depressing that there probably won't be a million seller this november judging from all the estimates here. Isn't that a bad thing?
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
So I was in Costco yesterday (North of Seattle) and they had PS4 for $489 and the X1 for $339 sitting side by side.
Granted, the X1 price was after a $50 rebate, and the PS4 had 1yr PS+ and an extra controller in the bundle, but for people that don't know any better, they just see the price difference of $150.
Granted, the X1 price was after a $50 rebate, and the PS4 had 1yr PS+ and an extra controller in the bundle, but for people that don't know any better, they just see the price difference of $150.
Yep. That happens a lot.
And that is why the Wii U was such a runaway hit. Outsold by the Ouya, of course.
Welfare
Member
Yup a runaway hit with the remaining Nintendo fans.
Should we get chartz numbers in here?
$489 for "third party game box" vs. $339 for "third party game box" vs. "I don't care about that box regardless of price because it doesn't have third party games."
You know the point I'm trying to make: that a lower price doesn't mean an instant sale, even to people shopping at Costco. Even if they "don't know any better".
theprodigy
Member
it does if both systems have all the games they want though
Aquamarine
Member
Pachter's Predictions:
XB1: 750K
PS4: 600K
WIU: 300K
Please, GAF, be smart about this.
DO NOT make a new thread about his predictions. And if a site like VentureBeat picks it up for some stupid reason, DON'T bring it over to GAF. Threads about Pachter's predictions just lead to a whole bunch of nonsense that isn't conducive to proper discourse.
Pachter only channel checks a few stores and his predictions are NOT IN ANY WAY a reliable source. He predicts video game console sales for FUN. His real day job is to help investors make sound investment decisions.
And yes, Pachter deserves every penny he gets for the real work that he does every day.
XB1: 750K
PS4: 600K
WIU: 300K
Please, GAF, be smart about this.
DO NOT make a new thread about his predictions. And if a site like VentureBeat picks it up for some stupid reason, DON'T bring it over to GAF. Threads about Pachter's predictions just lead to a whole bunch of nonsense that isn't conducive to proper discourse.
Pachter only channel checks a few stores and his predictions are NOT IN ANY WAY a reliable source. He predicts video game console sales for FUN. His real day job is to help investors make sound investment decisions.
And yes, Pachter deserves every penny he gets for the real work that he does every day.
theprodigy
Member
^anyone who does not follow this will be blacklisted from all future NPD threads
j/k, but seriously
donny make sure to include this unofficially LOL
Aquamarine
Member
You should take the brackets out of those predictions because they're not your predictions.
They'll get caught in donny2112's algorithm.
Welfare
Member
You're right. Thanks.
Duxxy3
Member
Whats his track record again? (Not being rhetorical, I'm seriously asking here)
Welfare
Member
Yeah, looking at them myself, it makes me want to lower my predictions, especially the One.
But I just have to BELIEVE.
Duxxy3
Member
Wedbush (Pachter) didn't release predictions for some months earlier this year, which is negatively impacting their ranking this year. Here's how they've finished the previous few years, though.
2011 - #3 overall
2012 - #17 overall
2013 - #21 overall
Individual months can vary wildly, like anyone else's predictions here, but overall, they're not too shabby!
Gbpackers31
Member
Before I forget..
[360] 295k
[3DS] 500k
[PS3] 150k
[PS4] 810k
[WIU] 315k
[XB1] 860k
[360] 295k
[3DS] 500k
[PS3] 150k
[PS4] 810k
[WIU] 315k
[XB1] 860k
shinra-bansho
Member
Aquamarine
Member
I know, right? I think Chartz went just a bit bonkers this month.
Pachter may be lowballing it, but at least his numbers are more realistic.
I'll calculate it. Maybe I'll be done when this thread hits 700 posts.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I think every console manufacturer had a disappointing month per se; Nintendo did not comment on hardware sales during Super Smash Bros launch; neither did MSFT who most likely won during Black Friday weekend.
I don't know, I don't have a good feeling or maybe I'm just paranoid....
I don't know, I don't have a good feeling or maybe I'm just paranoid....
Holiday sales have become increasingly November-centric (black friday) in recent years.
It used to be that December was 2x November sales, for example PS2's peak year had:
Nov-02 1,318,000
Dec-02 2,733,000
X360 best year was 1:1 ratio.
Nov-11 1,700,000
Dec-11 1,700,000
Last gen consoles last year actually sold MORE in Nov than Dec:
X360 PS3
Nov 647000 424000
Dec 643000 299000
It used to be that December was 2x November sales, for example PS2's peak year had:
Nov-02 1,318,000
Dec-02 2,733,000
X360 best year was 1:1 ratio.
Nov-11 1,700,000
Dec-11 1,700,000
Last gen consoles last year actually sold MORE in Nov than Dec:
X360 PS3
Nov 647000 424000
Dec 643000 299000
Patapwn
Member
MS did have a comparably $100 price cut for November so I think just taking into account what going from $400 to $300 (along with halo) does for a system we could all be surprised come the November NPD thread.
That said, no way it did 1.5 million.
Aquamarine
Member
The Xbox 360 sold 1.7 million in November 2011.
It's theoretically possible for the Xbox One to sell those kind of massive figures, but I really don't think it's likely (at all) given that Xbox One's performance doesn't seem equivalent to Xbox 360 when the Kinect was massively popular.
freefornow
Member
Are Pachters predictions BF numbers or is that his prediction for November NPD?