Welfare
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That would be a case of horrible stock management if the One was supply constrained in the US during a holiday month.
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November 2014 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 9th
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That would be a case of horrible stock management if the One was supply constrained in the US during a holiday month.
Chû Totoro
Member
[XB1] 700k
[PS4] 600k
[3DS] 500k
[WIU] 400k
[360] 300k
[PS3] 200k
[PSV] 100k
[PS4] 600k
[3DS] 500k
[WIU] 400k
[360] 300k
[PS3] 200k
[PSV] 100k
Chobel
Member
That I don't know, if I had to guess I'd say 800k.
FullMetaltech
Member
IMO enough to make up for the price adjustment and bundled software. I mean its not like the PS4 is gonna stop selling either way. It also means Sony can pricecut when they see fit. MS can go lower buy at what cost are they willing to take a huge hit like they have already.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
[XB1] 700K
[PS4] 600K
[3DS] 300K
[WIU] 250K
[360] 200K
[PS3] 100K
I normally don't do this type of stuff, but Black Friday Special! Whats the idea so far on December for who will win?
[PS4] 600K
[3DS] 300K
[WIU] 250K
[360] 200K
[PS3] 100K
I normally don't do this type of stuff, but Black Friday Special! Whats the idea so far on December for who will win?
Chobel
Member
What huge hit? Pulling Kinect wasnt a hit and at 349 theyre probably breaking even minus the games of course.
Last years PR statement wasn't until December 11th
I know it's early in the month but wow, people must be using other places to buy ps4's. 41 is crazy
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
If the difference really is only ~150k, no wonder Sony didn't care about their price and just bundled some stuff. Seems to me they will be able to reach E3 2015 without a pricedrop and just sticking with bundles.
Xbone is dropping, PS4 is rising (both slowly though).
Xbone ACU is the only SKU in charts, wonder what happens when this drops out of the top 100. Price drops? More new bundles?
The Last One
Member
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
maybe they arent 100% sure they won because that GTA bundle is god damn scary so they wont take a chance until they get all the numbers
Even though the GTA bundle has seem to run low in stock or out at most places, XB1 won November. 329 plus various retail incentives is too strong.
CorporateClown
Member
[XB1] 800K
[PS4] 700K
[3DS] 450K
[WIU] 250K
[360] 190K
[PS3] 95K
[PS4] 700K
[3DS] 450K
[WIU] 250K
[360] 190K
[PS3] 95K
Looking at Amazon.com, it would also look like Nintendo's going to have a big December, software-wise at least.
And what the hell is MK8 doing at 12th? Are there special deals on Amazon.com?
Its also telling that the assasin's creed bundle has moved to 19th....for the whole year 2014
Previously there wasn't an xbox one even on the first page at all...they sold an unbelievable amount of those consoles especially on amazon...going to be an interesting sales report
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_mo
Previously there wasn't an xbox one even on the first page at all...they sold an unbelievable amount of those consoles especially on amazon...going to be an interesting sales report
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_mo
It's the holiday season and MK8 is arguably the one must have game if you own a WiiU. Plus, Amazon is offering it for $51.99.
John Bender
Banned
Clearly not, as it seems.
PS4 is getting its ass kicked at the moment (in NA).
Sony needs a price cut ASAP.
And the $400+ price for the white Destiny bundle is a bad joke.
$349 should be the new price tag if they still want to compete in NA.
It's time to react.
Violence Jack
Member
[360] 160K
[3DS] 520K
[PS3] 130K
[PS4] 760K
[WIU] 310K
[XB1] 790K
[3DS] 520K
[PS3] 130K
[PS4] 760K
[WIU] 310K
[XB1] 790K
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
For once he actually makes a believable prediction. This one seems believable.
SDCowboy
Member
Yeah something doesn't seem right. The PS4 sales couldn't have completely fallen off a cliff like that. It's in the top 5-10 for like a year and then suddenly the Xbone is red hot and the PS4 has plummeted to the 3rd page?
John Bender
Banned
Exactly that happened.
SDCowboy
Member
The PS4 will need a price cut if the Xbone is going to stay at $350 with games.
Final Verdict
Member
Yeah, neither one has said a thing which is quite suspicious.
My Idea is that MS won Nov, but that BF was probably close/dead even.
Naaah, its because mot people who wanted a PS4 have already got one on BF.
Now that the deal is over, there is not much reason to grab one.
On the other hand, X1 still has the $350 + 2 games deal going on, so there is still plenty of reason to get on before the holiday ends.
funkystudent
Member
[XB1] 1000k
[PS4] 750k
[3DS] 400k
[WIU] 300k
[360] 300k
[PS3] 200k
[PSV] 70k
[PS4] 750k
[3DS] 400k
[WIU] 300k
[360] 300k
[PS3] 200k
[PSV] 70k
SDCowboy
Member
I mean, shit, I have zero interest in an Xbone since I have a PS4 and even I'm tempted to buy on at that price. Sony is going to have to to have a serious price drop soon if Amazon is any indication at all.
Papacheeks
Banned
I feel the problem is going to be after Christmas for Xbox. November and December regardless of the bundles are usually strong for most console sales.
Xbox clearly took November and depending on sales from retailers may take December, but I feel December will be closer while November will be by at least 80-100,000.
Sony might do a Bloodbourne Bundle in spring depending on what happens in trends for the new year.
If they were to announce a price drop they would do it, at E3. A price Drop now would help them, but would hurt any profit they would make off of 399$ price tag.
Xbox clearly took November and depending on sales from retailers may take December, but I feel December will be closer while November will be by at least 80-100,000.
Sony might do a Bloodbourne Bundle in spring depending on what happens in trends for the new year.
If they were to announce a price drop they would do it, at E3. A price Drop now would help them, but would hurt any profit they would make off of 399$ price tag.
Cornbread78
Member
The market is changing and it appears a lot of 360 owners and parents waited until they got the price drop to officially upgrade their systems. Working in retail, it's been a pulpable change in the market the last month or so since the price drop started. I clearly expect MS to win Nov. and will be nausiated by their PR reeases, but congrats to MS on making the changes needed to be competitive in the marketplace. They definately have the better value proposition right now in the marketplace.
Some anecdotal sales info from BF:
I had someone return one of the BF Halo bundles so I could finally check the sales numbers from BF and it appears that the PS4 with standard ($50GC) and GTA bundle sold more during the BF week than the Halo and AC bundles did. We received a large shipment of the GTA bundles, and limited of the Halo bundles, so that would account for it.
As for my sale numbers:
[XB1] 850K
[PS4] 750K
[3DS] 350K
[360] 290K
[WIU] 250K
[PS3] 140K
Welfare
Member
Which retailer do you work for?
ehh I wouldn't say that. If the keep the price at 350 and still have leftover bundles in January, they'd probably still won, albeit with a lot less sales. I even think they could win February if they did a 350 evolve bundle, but they'd probably lose March with bloodbourne coming out
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
No PR from MS is actually a sign that they won.
Any month that they have lost though having great momentum had immediate damage control PR released.
I think them being silent is because they won and are waiting to shout it from the rooftops when official NPDs come out.
Any month that they have lost though having great momentum had immediate damage control PR released.
I think them being silent is because they won and are waiting to shout it from the rooftops when official NPDs come out.
Welfare
Member
They are currently crafting the Master PR article that will be posted on Thursday.
I can't see such a big change being purely on cost. The differential isn't that big comparitively. More likely a combination like you say of people seeing a critical price level to prompt them to upgrade from 360 (we have seen relatively high levels of 360 software sales suggesting those users hadn't switched yet Vs PS3), combined with perhaps PS4 hitting a level of demand satisfaction due to great initial sales - the sort of thing that would suggest Sony need to naturally drop the price a little to maintain sales. The two together could combine to create a big win for Xbox in November
astrogamer
Member
[360] 180k
[3DS] 575k
[PS3] 120k
[PS4] 775k
[WIU] 340k
[XB1] 850k
[3DS] 575k
[PS3] 120k
[PS4] 775k
[WIU] 340k
[XB1] 850k
DustyVonEric
Member
I don't think we're there yet, though I fully expect XB1 to win Nov.
Sony can still bundle games and Plus subs until their more publicized games (The Order, Bloodborne) start hitting to keep them close. Marketing deals with big multiplat releases will boost sales as well. I really think Sony's strategy in NA is not to win at all cost, but to keep it close and profitable while WW sales grow.
I think we will see a price drop next E3 at the earliest, but most likely next Holiday.
It could be also a sign they could have won, but without sufficient momentum (i.e. not being that higher from PS4), or that they didn't win, or that numbers were low compared to expectations, wheter they were ahead of PS4 or not.
I mean, don't you see how they've always had a PR about BF in the past few years...or, why not, just a Twitter post with a specific comment about them?
This year, nothing. Just an unspecific answer to a fan, meaning that, without that casual question on Twitter, we wouldn't even have had that.
SDCowboy
Member
It's a bad deal when you consider the Xbone with 2 games is going for $330-350.
I doubt numbers are low. The thing is 19th for the year at Amazon already. For perspective the Destiny bundle is 30th. They've moved a bunch of those AC bundles for sure.
Live Free or Die
Banned
[XB1] 250k
[PS4] 1,500,000
[3DS] 80k
[360] 100k
[WIU] 150k
[PS3] 500k
[PS4] 1,500,000
[3DS] 80k
[360] 100k
[WIU] 150k
[PS3] 500k
[360] 280k
[3DS] 400k
[PS3] 180k
[PS4] 900k
[WIU] 350k
[XB1] 1000k
I'm expecting great sales for PS4 and XB1, with XB1 coming out on top because of the great deals throughout the whole month but not by a significant margin considering the strong PS4 bundles during BF and the lack of bragging by MS so far.
I expect all the other platforms to perform rather poorly.
[3DS] 400k
[PS3] 180k
[PS4] 900k
[WIU] 350k
[XB1] 1000k
I'm expecting great sales for PS4 and XB1, with XB1 coming out on top because of the great deals throughout the whole month but not by a significant margin considering the strong PS4 bundles during BF and the lack of bragging by MS so far.
I expect all the other platforms to perform rather poorly.
Thats suprising because I remember you had that pic with a huge pile of Ps4s next to Xones.
Do you know if Sony plans to restock the GTA bundle. Seems they already stopped advertising it and are back to pushing Destiny for some odd reason. They would be wise to at least drop that bundle to $399.
Bananajama
Banned
I expect X1 to edge PS4 for November
Couple of big releases and super aggressive pricing
Couple of big releases and super aggressive pricing