You must have missed the announcement when it re-emerged:
Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426270Edge said:
Rockstar Leeds also heavily worked on the project, bringing it up to five studios.
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NPD May 2012 Sales Results [Up4: Max Payne 3, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost Recon]
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You must have missed the announcement when it re-emerged:
Rockstar Leeds also heavily worked on the project, bringing it up to five studios.
velvet_nitemare
Member
He has the numbers, that's how he knows. He can hint at them, but he can't tell.
RukusProvider
Banned
How did you get >50k for Vita?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
DD < 100k
GarthVaderUK
Banned
It's too early to be honest. The Wii U's launch at the moment looks like a high risk/ high reward scenario. The worst case scenario is that it is another 3DS in which the core keep it afloat during the holiday, and then it drops during Q1 2013.
The best case scenario is that Nintendo surprises everyone and between NSMBU, Wii Fit U, and Nintendoland, manages to get the casuals to come back. (of course that also depends on cost and marketing)
Normally I would agree with you in that the Wii U won't succeed, but if history has taught us anything:
1) Never count out Nintendo
2) GAF doesn't have a clue when it comes to the casual market (Kinect launch)
Four_Chamber
Member
Vita continuing to circle the drain
The optimism after a 6k weekly increase in sales in the Media Create sales shows how poor this system is doing.
The optimism after a 6k weekly increase in sales in the Media Create sales shows how poor this system is doing.
Crap
Calling Max Payne 3 a disaster based on NPD's limited data set is extremely unfair. To date it's still in the top 10 Top Sellers on Steam, tons of other digital outlets are selling it, and the rest of the world isn't factored in either.
To date Max Payne 1 & 2 has sold 7.5 million copies to date: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...V_Passes_22M_Shipped_Franchise_Above_114M.php There's a good chance MP3 could do at least half that figure, so let's just wait for official numbers from Take Two's next shareholder call before proclaiming it a massive failure.
To date Max Payne 1 & 2 has sold 7.5 million copies to date: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...V_Passes_22M_Shipped_Franchise_Above_114M.php There's a good chance MP3 could do at least half that figure, so let's just wait for official numbers from Take Two's next shareholder call before proclaiming it a massive failure.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Ugly hardware numbers. Where are the price cuts?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
The 360 and PS3 need to be $199 like, yesterday. You can't beat your chests over high ASPs during a recession.
Take Two wanted to sell 5 million copies of Max Payne. They're pretty much fucked.
Take Two wanted to sell 5 million copies of Max Payne. They're pretty much fucked.
Count Dookkake
Member
Good Vita numbers.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
MrCunningham
Member
Man, that DS was like an unstoppable killing machine in 2009.
And it is pretty telling to see a PC game at the number one spot this month.... A retail PC game no less... Sure it's Diablo III, but retail PC gaming (AKA: physical boxed copies) has been on life support for years now. Impressive!
cmon dude your really harsh <_<
Just because you want it to fail doesn't mean it will.
Nintendo family has sold 285k units of hardware!
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/14/m...and-360s-sold-sony-sees-strong-res/#continued
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/14/m...and-360s-sold-sony-sees-strong-res/#continued
is there an evolved version of BOMBA? holy shit
So in other words Capcom will be using Resident Evil as a crutch for their entire company for the foreseeable future. (and MH in Japan)
Okay, fair enough, Take-Two's giant development cycle games usually do sell quite a bit better.
Hmm. Can look at Nintendo's IR charts at least for the first 3 months of the year.
Overlayed 2011/10 with 2012 - too many lines, hard to read - but doesn't seem as down % wise as the US.
Interesting
Wow, really? bring 3G Capcom, what the hell?!
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Momentum.
They'll probably just take a huge loss on it but establish a new "succesful" new ip. It should be interesting to see what we can expect from DD in the near future, more so than this specific installment honestly.
Especially for Japan.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
So much delicious schadenfreude in this thread; so good.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
lol, sorry. Everyone keeps saying DD wasn't advertised, I feel like I'm in crazy town.I was referring to online co-op if you didn't get it
Infinite Justice
Member
Forgot about this
god damn :O
god damn :O
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Ether
dat shit dat make ya soul burn slow
Now that DD is dead, maybe we can get Itsuno back on a series people actually buy, like Devil May Cry.
I feel this strategy can work well if you end up with a title that costs like $50 million + $30 million marketing due to development hell, but sells 1.5-2 million copies.
I don't think this works well if you're at <100K launch in the U.S., unless you intend to switch to the platform that is strong in your good region.
I said this before when in the Max Payne OT in regards to a friend saying that MP 3 was getting "low review scores" (86 on Metacritic): their open world games have set a crazy high bar for the Rockstar brand as far as general acclaim and sales. Especially after they were able to shift a bunch of GTA's audience onto Red Dead. People love that stuff. But their other non open-world stuff, like LA Noire, Bully, or Max Payne, simply doesn't seem to catch on in the same way. In the shadows of GTA and Red Dead, they look like disappointments.
That being said, it sounds like these numbers for software are pretty crummy all around, so maybe it really is a straight up bomba.
AdventureRacing
Member
Looks like vita will be struggling to hit 200K a month WW at the moment. 10 million this year seems like a pipe dream at the moment.
Bruno MB
Member
I applaud Capcom for taking a huge risk developing a new RPG IP.
In Japan it will end up selling 500k units, and with an eventual budget re-release + DLC integrated it can sell 200k units more.
Unfortunately that's not enough for getting a sequel once we know its abysmal western sales. This was a game supposed to appeal to a western audience, an audience that had already rejected Monster Hunter.
In Japan it will end up selling 500k units, and with an eventual budget re-release + DLC integrated it can sell 200k units more.
Unfortunately that's not enough for getting a sequel once we know its abysmal western sales. This was a game supposed to appeal to a western audience, an audience that had already rejected Monster Hunter.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I dunno, considering the depressed market in general, I think both MP3 and GRFS did fine. I can't speak for profitability or anything like that, but it was written on the wall we are having big declines MoM in software sales. The two were real close too.
DR2K
Banned
New hardware is not going to be welcomed if prices emulate this gen.
I can see DD becoming a big series in japan on 3DS or even Vita.
Not exctited to hear a bunch of fans crying for it to be on PS4/Xbox3 though.
Terrible numbers for everyone, the industry is going down pretty quickly as we get close to the end of the current consoles lifecycle.
I think that price drops for 360, PS3, Vita, Wii will be inevitable later this year.
I'm not sure how much they will be effective though because people are getting bored of COD and AC every year and every other big alternative has been delayed to 2013.
In this state of things, if the market is interested in something new, Nintendo could find itself at the right moment with WiiU, although sales will be limited by the initial production capacity.
I think that price drops for 360, PS3, Vita, Wii will be inevitable later this year.
I'm not sure how much they will be effective though because people are getting bored of COD and AC every year and every other big alternative has been delayed to 2013.
In this state of things, if the market is interested in something new, Nintendo could find itself at the right moment with WiiU, although sales will be limited by the initial production capacity.
What do you think the future of DD will be? Would you consider it better to focus on other old properties or new ip's, especially ones gearing up for next generation consoles a lá Dead Rising or do you think it'll be helpful to offset the costs of this initial investment by reusing the DD assets and design documents.
oh and fuck you capcom MML3 would've done better than that ;_;
They knew what they had to do to appeal to westerners. The game, from the moment it was announced, screamed co-op. By not putting it in they sealed its death in the western market. They have nobody to blame but themselves.
Not surprsed by the home console hardware numbers. They have been out for a long time now, and are not at the price they should be.
This is looking like the slowest year of the cycle for software releases, so declines there would not surprise me either. When did they start counting PC retail? I don't really pay attention to this stuff like I used to.
I have to wonder why Microsoft is waiting so long to introduce their next system. 360 came out in 2005. I could understand wanting to ride out the recession before introducing a new $399 system but it doesn't look like that line of reasoning is going to pan out. In Sony's case I have to imagine the rest of the company being a cluster fuck will have them sticking with PS3 until next fall.
This is looking like the slowest year of the cycle for software releases, so declines there would not surprise me either. When did they start counting PC retail? I don't really pay attention to this stuff like I used to.
I have to wonder why Microsoft is waiting so long to introduce their next system. 360 came out in 2005. I could understand wanting to ride out the recession before introducing a new $399 system but it doesn't look like that line of reasoning is going to pan out. In Sony's case I have to imagine the rest of the company being a cluster fuck will have them sticking with PS3 until next fall.
Basileus777
Member
Ouch...