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NPD Sales Results for December 2013 [Up2: Xbox One/360 HW, 3DS top system of year]

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I see that even if Wii U sales are around 500k (which I don't think it will happen) some people are preparing the backup story. Oh, forget December, let's talk about January!
I would say let see first if it still breathes before kicking it again.

There is no good news if its "we are edging out the Dreamcast, but selling 100k less than Gamecube! Hurrah!". Theres just "it wasnt a totally trend breaking apocalypse" news.
 

CalebW

Banned
No what they mean is when you take the top 10 selling SKUs from PS4 and Xbox One games only, six of those are Xbox One.

But couldnt 7 of them be PS4 since only 3 of them are exclusive to XB1? Or is MS saying they sold the most of 6 of them?
 
It's funny how we have come to expect such poor numbers from the Wii U that some people are crossing their fingers for 500k. The PS3's second December was just shy of 800k in 2007, and many people on GAF were calling that a horrible performance.

Yep makes any comments that Nintendo can just pull what Sony did with the PS3 seem a bit hollow
 

Kevtones

Member
I'd actually be surprised at 500k for Wii U. That's not healthy by any means but less dead than I expected. Good.



Luckily I have like 730,000 friends that couldn't find the Wii U locally so they all picked one up in January. Wait for January!
 
Branch:

If I was being serious: that is a terrible way of determining the evil of Microsoft, by debating the evil of their two competitors. For shame.

If I was fucking around: :jnc, no one in their right mind would ascribe evil to a corporation as inept as Microsoft.

wow you're serious


also rofl at EmCeeGramr
 

ohlawd

Member
Good for MS. I hope they continue to do well.

3DS had a fantastic year with great software albeit most of the games I loved are niche. 2014 is gonna be rough.
 

Alebrije

Member
Are december´s estimated WiiU numbers good? I just want to see the console lives enough time to see a Metroid game on it.
 

DaBoss

Member
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Fixed it up a bit, but lol.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
But couldnt 7 of them be PS4 since only 3 of them are exclusive to XB1? Or is MS saying they sold the most of 6 of them?

Hmm, my phrasing might be confusing.

It'd be like:

1.) Xbox One Ghosts
2.) PS4 Ghosts
3.) Xbox One Battlefield

etc.
 
Branch:

If I was being serious: that is a terrible way of determining the evil of Microsoft, by debating the evil of their two competitors. For shame.

If I was fucking around: :jnc, no one in their right mind would ascribe evil to a corporation as inept as Microsoft.

I didn't say Sony or Nintendo were evil (and don't think they are at all). It's just a metric for which MS can be shown as not evil and the other two cannot, in response to your "evil winning" nonsense. They've been in that category for several years btw.

As far as ineptitude...what should we judge that based on? I guess since a corporation's intent is to make money, how about revenue and profit? Have fun with that comparison too.
 
Sony will take the lead worldwide, but it's bad press for the US as MS is focusing on this market and the "we are #1" bit will be pushed, making Sony look bad in America. It's clear which system is selling better, but MS knows it needs to focus on it's major territories. Though it seems they have lost the UK possibly this time around.
 
I know, right? The only people who should breath a sigh of relief for 500K in December is Nintendo's PR team, so they can spin some silly statistics like "December was the best EVER sales performance for the Wii U! The momentum continues to grow for the console as we get it back on track to recovery!"

All while completely ignoring the upcoming January crash.

I feel like we just went through this in the Japanese sales threads over the last few weeks. A few people calling it a recovery and not listening or ignoring the fact that it was just a holiday induced sugar rush.

>500k for those same people may be great, but as ever, it is absolutely horrible, and with the 3DS down YoY even with such aggressive pricing on the 2DS and with a Pokemon game even the handheld division might not be enough to keep Nintendo in the black for the coming financial year.
 
I can't believe this "3 million is a lie" thing is still going around.

50k France
100k Germany
28k Spain
68k Australia
364k UK
1.817 US

Thats 2.427 with 7 more countries to sell the other 573k. Most people are saying Canada is over 200k so that leaves 373k for 6 countries if so.

200k is probably the absolute ceiling for Canada. But I don't see any reason to doubt the 3 million claim. Sounds perfectly reasonable.
 

Gorillaz

Member
Oh yea, we are just getting started in the numbers race for the next gen. Things are definitely going to get interesting since we are about to hit the "cold" months now of the industry
 

swcpig

Banned
I'm really not interested in getting dragged into a console slapfight, so this is a one and doner.

We don't have Sony's PS4 numbers yet, but we can assume since they're still leading, it's around 800k. And that's supremely supply constrained.

Microsoft had a bigger BF and December because the supply met demand (and if you wanted to take into account anecdotal evidence, exceeded demand), while Sony had to divert stock to here.

Take into account that, while both consoles had gargantuan launches that the PS4 basically had an unprecedented demand should tell a whole different story than the one you're trying to paint.

tldr; I have no clue what on earth you're talking about because you're not coming in with a full deck


I know you're fire and forgetting - and im about to jump in my car but... the supply constraint thing is a big deal. Folks aren't sitting on their hands waiting for the PS4 to suddenly start populating (though here in Denver I have seen them in the wild from time to time). These are lost opportunities for Sony - for everyone getting the Xbox One playing BF4 or whatever is a social circle being influenced - which means those waiting may just give in - especially if they already were Xbox owners.

I think the PS4 will do much better in the US than the PS3 but momentum matters and having inventory matters. If they remain constrained, and im not sure they are as constrained as all that anymore, and MS wins January as well as a result... then bounces with a Titanfall release (it's possible) then there's a strong argument to be hand that Xbox could control the US market by percentages in 2014 - a MUST WIN market for anyone in business.

But again, Sony looks like they'll be doing just fine in the US and worldwide they have a significant lead. China will be the wild card this generation potentially.
 
The best selling platform of December and 2013 isn't doing that well?
It had Pokemon and a cheaper SKU, in addition to some other games making this a significantly stronger situation (theoretically) than last year.

There should have been a notable YoY increase for the 3DS but there wasn't. That isn't good.
 

Mashing

Member
Wow the US software charts are fucking boring. I bet the same fucking games appear (previous versions obviously) on 2012's December and end of the year chart.
 

Loris146

Member
I can't believe this "3 million is a lie" thing is still going around.

50k France
100k Germany
28k Spain
68k Australia
364k UK
1.817 US

Thats 2.427 with 7 more countries to sell the other 573k. Most people are saying Canada is over 200k so that leaves 373k for 6 countries if so.

No number for Italy ?
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
I'm summoning creamsugar for 3DS, Vita and Wii U software LTD charts, both first and third, like he did last December.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
3DS number seems pretty disappointing. Even with the 2DS and Pokemon, the system is declining. This is no beast mode console.
 
Nah. I'm just a 32 yr old rational gamer that can separate my love for the hobby and fanboyism.

In all honesty, I'm not particularly fond of any of the major manufacturers except maybe Sony (who seem to be making stories towards legitimately improving the gaming experience in tangible ways).
But you feel hate though lol, you need to separate emotion too it seems from the hobby
 

TomShoe

Banned
I knew this thread was going to be entertaining the moment I clicked on it.

I was not disappointed. Anyone else agree?
 
Wii U is going to end up being a distant third in terms of sales by the end of it's life span. I hope for Nintendo's sake, it's handheld business doesn't slow down.
 
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