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[Aquamarine]

Gran Turismo 5:

November 2010 (launch): 400K
December 2010: 560.5K


Gran Turismo 6:

December 2013 (launch): <180K



Gran Turismo 6's debut is a massive disappointment in the USA. To this day I don't understand why Sony didn't just wait for PS4. It would have been the perfect title to complement the PS4's early lineup and woo key markets.

 

[TunaLover]

LOL, I though Vita number were for the whole 2013, but then I realized it was pretty improbable, even for the Sony handheld sales standart.

 

[Namikaze]

Dang, poor Vita. Got one last year and it's one of my favorite systems. I really wish Sony would advertise it but guess they don't see a point anymore. We'll, at least Gravity Rush 2 is coming..and hopefully many games will continue to get ported and/or translated from Japan.

I'm really curious to see how a rebranded Vita TV would do here now if advertised well.

 

[Shufel]

Good lord, those Vita sales. I don't think they could have come up with a more unfitting name for a piece of hardware. Maybe they'll get it right with their next handheld and call it the After Vita.

 

[pixlexic]

I have owned a vita since launch and have yet to buy an actual vita game for it. a few psp games and some psx ones.

 

[hongcha]

Sony needs to release the Vita 2000 model in USA/Europe. It is one of the main things that increased sales in Japan (it was released last October there). I do not know why they did not release that in December. Vita TV should be released as well. If they just keep riding out the clunky old OLED model sales will continue to plummet further into garbage land.

 

[Anth0ny]

Jesus Christ Vita is so fucking dead. Insane.

It'll be off shelves by the end of this year. Guaranteed.

 

[Talamius]

it's dead everywhere besides Japan, where it's just a bit less dead

Vita has actually been doing OK in Japan lately. I think Japan alone will keep the system going for a bit, but in the US it's over.

 

[AniHawk]

What they would gain with this move? A mob of angry owners who wouldn't buy anything from them anymore?

at this point it's almost only being supported by third-parties anyway.

 

[Griss]

I refuse to believe the Vita did less than 100K on this holiday season. Surely a mistake?

It's December only. The second half of November is also considered holiday season. Not that it matters or anything.

 

[allan-bh]

Without CoD and AC in 2012, Vita probably would sell less than 100k too.

 

[Pociask]

I meant if they had never developed the Wii U and just kept at it with the Wii. Obviously this was not going to happen, but the Wii has more potential than the Wii U will ever have. And they dropped the Wii after 2010 leaving behind a shit ton of money to focus on a failure.

Still crazy to me that the Gamepad seemed A safer bet to Nintendo than a system built around Motion Plus. Alas.

 

[Valkyria]

it's dead everywhere besides Japan, where it's just a bit less dead

I can remember who said it but the other day a 100% reliable poster said is selling better in EU than in Japan. Nothing to write home about, but some steady sales. Maybe someone knows what I'm referring to.

 

[Principate]

I don't get all the people complaining about the Vita sales, Do you have a product that sells 95k a month?

If you spent millions on R&D which you'd want to recoup would you even want such a product. You'd probably be worse off than you are now.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Those Vita numbers are actually LTD.

 

[metalslimer]

I don't get all the people complaining about the Vita sales, Do you have a product that sells 95k a month?

Spoiler

Hehe

 

[Celine]

Hopefully Sony learned their lesson with handhelds.

To not release a dedicated gaming handheld?
:-(

 

[TyrantII]

PSV<95k

Yup terrible, but sort of makes sense.

1) People waiting for OLED clearance sales (to make room for the new LCD slim model).
2) People waiting for the new LCD slim model.

I'm currently in camp #1.

 

[QaaQer]

Gran Turismo 5:

November 2010 (launch): 400K
December 2010: 560.5K


Gran Turismo 6:

December 2013 (launch): <180K



Gran Turismo 6's debut is a massive disappointment in the USA. To this day I don't understand why Sony didn't wait for PS4. It would have been a perfect title to complement the PS4's early lineup and woo key markets.

Greed. I think they under-estimated the 8 year weariness factor.

 

[Sandfox]

I don't know what Sony is going to do with the Vita if it gets pulled in the US because that would be a huge blow and they are obviously more western focused these days.

 

[vinnygambini]

Though not pertaining to NPD results, the following is interesting:

Nintendo of France GM Philippe Lavoue, has shared some 2013 sales numbers for Pokemon X & Y, Wii U, 3DS, 3DS, and Super Mario 3D World.

&#8220;3DS: 1 million+ (64% plus year over year) YTD (over the expectations)&#8221;
2DS: 180k
Pokemon X and Y: 584k YTD
The Wii U sold 178k in 2013 in France.
3D World: 98k YTD

http://www.challenges.fr/high-tech/20140116.CHA9317/pourquoi-nintendo-pense-faire-mieux-que-sony-et-microsoft.html

How much did 3DS sell in the U.K. for comparison, 550k?

France did double damn.

 

[Principate]

I can remember who said it but the other day a 100% reliable poster said is selling better in EU than in Japan. Nothing to write home about, but some steady sales. Maybe someone knows what I'm referring to.

No it's not. Quarterly and basically everything else implies opposite.

 

[Griss]

Sony needs to release the Vita 2000 model in USA/Europe. It is one of the main things that increased sales in Japan (it was released last October there). I do not know why they did not release that in December. Vita TV should be released as well. If they just keep riding out the clunky old OLED model sales will continue to plummet further into garbage land.

I hate to say it, but what's the point at this stage? What do they stand to gain? Just let it drift off peacefully to an eternal sleep, where it can dream of the good times people had playing P4G, Lumines ES and Everybody's Golf. Poor little thing, it tried its best and failed. It happens.

 

[AniHawk]

Sony needs to release the Vita 2000 model in USA/Europe. It is one of the main things that increased sales in Japan (it was released last October there). I do not know why they did not release that in December. Vita TV should be released as well. If they just keep riding out the clunky old OLED model sales will continue to plummet further into garbage land.

it's not just about releasing new hardware. they need to support it too. show why people would need one in their lives.

i get a feeling the vita division doesn't get a lot of marketing dollars from scea, so their hands are tied.

 

[Giant Panda]

Gran Turismo 5:

November 2010 (launch): 400K
December 2010: 560.5K


Gran Turismo 6:

December 2013 (launch): <180K



Gran Turismo 6's debut is a massive disappointment in the USA. To this day I don't understand why Sony didn't wait for PS4. It would have been a perfect title to complement the PS4's early lineup and woo key markets.

I remember in earlier arguments over this game a lot of people thought releasing GT 6 on PS3 would result in more money made, but I think we can clearly say that wouldn't have been the case now.

 

[Danny 117]

Wow at those Vita numbers. It's dead, gone, buried even. Those GT6 numbers are abysmal too. Sony did absolutely no marketing for these two products and it shows.

 

[Currygan]

I can remember who said it but the other day a 100% reliable poster said is selling better in EU than in Japan. Nothing to write home about, but some steady sales. Maybe someone knows what I'm referring to.

I'd really love to see evidence of that. Not that i'm being doubtful on purpose, just curious

 

[GeoramA]

Without CoD and AC in 2012, Vita probably would sell less than 100k too.

Declassified was the last Vita advertisement I think I've seen. Fucking sad.

 

[metalslimer]

Yup terrible, but sort of makes sense.

1) People waiting for OLED clearance sales (to make room for the new LCD slim model).
2) People waiting for the new LCD slim model.

I'm currently in camp #1.

There's an easier explanation

 

[Mass Effect]

Jesus Christ... why oh why won't the Vita sell? What will do it? What black magic is needed to just get people to want it?!

Not focusing on such a small demographic? Axing proprietary memory cards? Games? Marketing?

Just throwing stuff out here.

What they would gain with this move? A mob of angry owners who wouldn't buy anything from them anymore?

A mob? HA! Perhaps a small gathering maybe. I doubt so few that own the Vita boycotting Sony would do much to harm them. You and I both know it'd be far more economical to just scrap it than keep supporting it for the sake of a small handful of fans.

 

[Principate]

Though not pertaining to NPD results, the following is interesting:

Nintendo of France GM Philippe Lavoue, has shared some 2013 sales numbers for Pokemon X & Y, Wii U, 3DS, 3DS, and Super Mario 3D World.

“3DS: 1 million+ (64% plus year over year) YTD (over the expectations)”
2DS: 180k
Pokemon X and Y: 584k YTD
The Wii U sold 178k in 2013 in France.
3D World: 98k YTD

http://www.challenges.fr/high-tech/20140116.CHA9317/pourquoi-nintendo-pense-faire-mieux-que-sony-et-microsoft.html

That's pretty good for the 3DS in France.

 

[Exile20]

What they would gain with this move? A mob of angry owners who wouldn't buy anything from them anymore?

Sony admitted that they were going to at one point.

Even if they do not pull the plug, do you think they will release another handheld?

Pulling the plug on the Vita will not affect the PS4 sales. They have to be losing a shit ton of money on that thing by now.

I doubt Sony will ever release the Vita Tv now.

 

[Tripon]

Is Vita dead? Is life dead?

What is dead can never die.

So the vita is still life.

 

[iammeiam]

Yup terrible, but sort of makes sense.

1) People waiting for OLED clearance sales (to make room for the new LCD slim model).
2) People waiting for the new LCD slim model.

I'm currently in camp #1.

I think those two camps, combined, could have bumped the Vita up to 100K last month. More than that and you're probably kidding yourself.

I'm not sure the slim Vita hitting the US is a certainty at this point--how the hell is Sony going to convince retailers to order the thing?

 

[lightning2k3]

Yup terrible, but sort of makes sense.

1) People waiting for OLED clearance sales (to make room for the new LCD slim model).
2) People waiting for the new LCD slim model.

I'm currently in camp #1.

At this rate the LCD slim model will never hit the US.

 

[Valkyria]

No it's not. Quarterly and basically everything else implies opposite.

Show me the receipts, because the last thread I talked with you , you didn't even know that invizimals was already released in EU.

 

[artist]

Yup terrible, but sort of makes sense.

1) People waiting for OLED clearance sales (to make room for the new LCD slim model).
2) People waiting for the new LCD slim model.

I'm currently in camp #1.

There is a small little camp 3 that doesnt want this awesome little product.

 

[Capella]

The Vita sales numbers are really depressing. I only had a Vita for a short amount of time but I loved it and I really think it's a great piece of hardware. I can't wait until I can afford to get a new one but the system really does deserve better. SCEA is just leaving it out to die in the US.

 

[Principate]

There's an easier explanation

Yeah much easier...

 

[QaaQer]

I don't know what Sony is going to do with the Vita if it gets pulled in the US because that would be a huge blow and they are obviously more western focused these days.

They aren't pulling it. You can expect it to be around for the life of the ps4 as a peripheral that also has some of its own games, thats about it for America anyway. Just like they will continue to sell that DOA camera addon but wont be spending money making games for it or advertising it.

 

[Koppai]

So was that a Wiibound?

 

[Kriken]

PSV<95k

How very disappointing, the Vita's a great piece of hardware that Sony has no idea what to do with it in the West.

 

[antitrop]

I really expected to get more than ~2 years out of my Vita. =/

 

[StoopKid]

Sony admitted that they were going to at one point.

Even if they do not pull the plug, do you think they will release another handheld?

Pulling the plug on the Vita will not affect the PS4 sales. They have to be losing a shit ton of money on that thing by now.

I doubt Sony will ever release the Vita Tv now.

Nah thuway said they make profit.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

So was that a Wiibound?

Yep. It hit rock bottom, bounced, and it's all up from here. There's really no stopping it.

 

[Griss]

Sony admitted that they were going to at one point.

Even if they do not pull the plug, do you think they will release another handheld?

Pulling the plug on the Vita will not affect the PS4 sales. They have to be losing a shit ton of money on that thing by now.

There is no chance whatsoever of another Sony handheld. They might take that division and put them to work on a good quality gaming Xperia Play. Their efforts in that realm so far have been really half-assed, imo.

Nintendo will be the only dedicated handheld maker left, and will have plenty of room to manoeuvre their product. I still think they go uber-cheap with the next one, though. As long as the screen is decent I won't mind.

 

[AzaK]

They did with Wii Mini, but Nintendo is hand tied with Wii U/3DS development, keep developing games for Wii only would to cause make their Wii U game output worse.

So you're saying we should expect that when Nintendo's next console comes out we'll have a 2 year drought again? Awesome way to run your console business!

 

[metalslimer]

I really expected to get more than ~2 years out of my Vita. =/

As long as localizations continue it will get a 3-4 year lifespan.

 

[MikeE21286]

Jesus Christ Vita is so fucking dead. Insane.

It'll be off shelves by the end of this year. Guaranteed.

It'll be a $99 peripheral for ps4 and ps now

 

[Artorias]

They aren't pulling it. You can expect it to be around for the life of the ps4 as a peripheral that also has some of its own games, thats about it for America anyway. Just like they will continue to sell that DOA camera addon but wont be spending money making games for it or advertising it.

Lol, what?