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[JoshuaJSlone]

For comparison, these were the NPD software numbers for Jan 2007, two years ago. I don't know how great was the USA install base for Xbox 360, but I believe it was under 7 millions.

Through January 2007, US LTD was about

X360: 4.8 M
Wii: 1.5 M
PS3: 0.9 M

 

[Narcosis]

So pretty much as evidenced in some of the recent posts we have a situation in the US at least where the PS3 at it;s install base isn't selling as much software as the 360 did at the same point. So that raises the question: Why?

Could it be:

-The presence of multiple platform owners? Could the "hardcore" who plays the types of games PS3 focuses on own a PC or 360 and be choosing between platforms for specific games? (Do we even have any reliable statistics as to what other platforms PS3 owners may own?)

-The PS3 audience rejecting ports of games they feel are inferior? Is the stigma/word of mouth of some PS3 versions of games being inferior affecting sales?

-Does the core PS3 gamer prefer a type of game or prefer game IPs they identify with from PS2 that aren't being served on the system? We've still yet to see a full Tekken, no Kingdom Hearts, no Final Fantasy and most Japanese support is lacking. Namco's HD support has been mostly 360. PS3 seems oddly western centric games wise when compared to PS1/PS2.


And for further speculation, does any of this software sales situation in the US affect what games PS3 gets in the future, or do developers still support PS3 for a global outlook or just do a port to tack additional sales onto whatever revenue they get from the 360 and PC?

 

[Busaiku]

NSMB sold more this january :lol

That is just ridiculous.

 

[SilverLunar]

NSMB sold more this january :lol

Worm legs.

 

[Kenka]

And I would be willing to bet that at least 1 of those 2 is almost always a multiplatform game it shares with the 360

That's not the point. The point is that Sony is in the Gamecube position. But Gamecube was not that costly and didn't get creampied in the press like the PS3 is. Gamecube was low-profile but still surviving.


The more I go through this thread, the more it looks like people actually want to see the PS3 die (probably because of the irritatinig Sony fanboys ?)

 

[Spider_Jerusalem]

So pretty much as evidenced in some of the recent posts we have a situation in the US at least where the PS3 at it;s install base isn't selling as much software as the 360 did at the same point. So that raises the question: Why?

I'm sure that part of the problem is people buying it only (or mainly) as a Blue-ray player: the attach ratio is diluted by people who aren't interested in it as a gaming console.

 

[PSGames]

So pretty much as evidenced in some of the recent posts we have a situation in the US at least where the PS3 at it;s install base isn't selling as much software as the 360 did at the same point. So that raises the question: Why?

Could it be:

-The presence of multiple platform owners? Could the "hardcore" who plays the types of games PS3 focuses on own a PC or 360 and be choosing between platforms for specific games? (Do we even have any reliable statistics as to what other platforms PS3 owners may own?)

-The PS3 audience rejecting ports of games they feel are inferior? Is the stigma/word of mouth of some PS3 versions of games being inferior affecting sales?

-Does the core PS3 gamer prefer a type of game or prefer game IPs they identify with from PS2 that aren't being served on the system? We've still yet to see a full Tekken, no Kingdom Hearts, no Final Fantasy and most Japanese support is lacking. Namco's HD support has been mostly 360. PS3 seems oddly western centric games wise when compared to PS1/PS2.


And for further speculation, does any of this software sales situation in the US affect what games PS3 gets in the future, or do developers still support PS3 for a global outlook or just do a port to tack additional sales onto whatever revenue they get from the 360 and PC?

I think it's a combination of multi-platform holders and Blu-Ray. To spend $400 plus on a gaming system you have to be pretty hardcore. And anyone that hardcore is likely to already own a 360 (with it being the first released next-gen system and all). Then you have the Blu-Ray owners who bought it solely because it was the best and cheaperst Blu-Ray player at the time. So when you combine those 2 and you add in how multi-platform games usually perform better on 360 and there you go.

 

[Cipherr]

NSMB sold more this january :lol

Jesus christ :lol

 

[luxe7]

Maybe this price drop crazy theory of some (when the ps3 need a price cut or die) have some truth, maybe Sony drop the price of the PS3 this year but not for be first or second place in USA or worldwide but because the components of the ps3 are or will be cheaper, so when a price cut of the ps3 come this will be a predictable thing and people should not have false hopes in this , if the ps3 sell more or not will not be a problem for Sony, Sony will not go bankrupt, and we will have a ps4,ps5,etc anyway, yeah many people think that we never will have a superhardware again in consoles but in the other hand we will never have again a expensive console, a forced format and arrogant decisions (maybe?) so is not bad at all that this console of Sony fails this gen.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

For comparison, these were the NPD software numbers for Jan 2007, two years ago. I don't know how great was the USA install base for Xbox 360, but I believe it was under 7 millions.

1. 360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 329k
2. PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 224k
3. 360 GEARS OF WAR 212k
4. WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 201k
5. WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 189k
6. PS2 MADDEN NFL 07 156k
7. GCN LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 144k
8. PS3 RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN 144k
9. 360 TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 135k
10. NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 125k

2 Wii titles in top 10 both over 113k, 3 360 titles all over 113k, 1 PS3 titles over 113k. Lowest game is over 113k. My point has some ground.

 

[Kilrogg]

I never really laugh reading sales numbers, but New Super Mario Bros selling more now than two years ago is just :lol.

You know what's worse? Same story for Mario Kart DS.

 

[Cipherr]

I never really laugh reading sales numbers, but New Super Mario Bros selling more now than two years ago is just :lol.

You know what's worse? Same story for Mario Kart DS.

Yeah Im not even sure what to call that. Can we say the game is finally hitting its stride? :lol Its just so absurd.

 

[Rolf NB]

Just skimming over the OP contents of recent NPD threads (i.e. top ten only), I don't quite see the trend of PS3 owners not buying games. This one month here it may look like it, but that's the abberation, not the norm. The norm for PS360 multiplats, when both versions make it above the top ten cutoff so that we can compare them, is still that they sell in proportion with install bases, often slightly in favor of PS3 (which isn't surprising but still notable). Most recently CoD: WaW, Star Wars TFU and Madden. Been the same in '07 with CoD4 and Assassin's Creed. GTA IV and DMC4 were bought for PS3 significantly above install base proportions even.

There's not a huge breadth of data to go by, again due to the top-ten cutoffs, but the stuff that's available to us here shows PS3 owners as equally active at buying games as anybody else. Just not in January '09, for whatever reason.

 

[Kilrogg]

Okay, actually, it's even more ridiculous than that.

In December 2008, New Mario sold between 366k and 487k and Mario Kart DS sold 540k.
In December 2007, New Mario sold between 401k and 500k and Mario Kart DS sold less than 385.7k (didn't even make it to the top 20).
In December 2006, New Mario sold 427k and Mario Kart DS sold less than 365.3k and was #20 in the exclusive titles chart.

In short, for the biggest month in the year, sales of New Mario remained stagnant year-on-year, while sales of Mario Kart DS have been steadily increasing.

 

[Jammy]

Just skimming over the OP contents of recent NPD threads (i.e. top ten only), I don't quite see the trend of PS3 owners not buying games. This one month here it may look like it, but that's the abberation, not the norm. The norm for PS360 multiplats, when both versions make it above the top ten cutoff so that we can compare them, is still that they sell in proportion with install bases, often slightly in favor of PS3 (which isn't surprising but still notable). Most recently CoD: WaW, Star Wars TFU and Madden. Been the same in '07 with CoD4 and Assassin's Creed. GTA IV and DMC4 were bought for PS3 significantly above install base proportions.

There's not a huge breadth of data to go by, again due to the top-ten cutoffs, but the stuff that's available to us here shows PS3 owners as equally active at buying games as anybody else. Just not in January '09, for whatever reason.

Is that not only for those games, though? It's quite a different story from that of the Wii, where there are a number of games outside of the chart that continue to sell and sell over time.

The reason PS3's software sales aren't healthy is that outside of these big-name games, there's nothing else that shows up, not to mention that PS3 games aren't evergreen in terms of sales.

 

[Karma]

Just skimming over the OP contents of recent NPD threads (i.e. top ten only), I don't quite see the trend of PS3 owners not buying games. This one month here it may look like it, but that's the abberation, not the norm. The norm for PS360 multiplats, when both versions make it above the top ten cutoff so that we can compare them, is still that they sell in proportion with install bases, often slightly in favor of PS3 (which isn't surprising but still notable). Most recently CoD: WaW, Star Wars TFU and Madden. Been the same in '07 with CoD4 and Assassin's Creed. GTA IV and DMC4 were bought for PS3 significantly above install base proportions even.

There's not a huge breadth of data to go by, again due to the top-ten cutoffs, but the stuff that's available to us here shows PS3 owners as equally active at buying games as anybody else. Just not in January '09, for whatever reason.

Or Dec 08.

 

[yoopoo]

All top 20 I could find from last year....not much PS3 games buying going on.

May 2008
1. 360 Grand Theft Auto IV - 871,300
2. Wii Mario Kart - 787,400
3. Wii Fit - 687,700
4. PS3 Grand Theft Auto IV - 442,900
5. Wii Play - 294,600
6. Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 171,100
7. PS2 Iron Man - 130,600
8. Wii Guitar Hero III - 116,800
9. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness - 107,000
10. NDS Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time - 102,000
11. 360 Call of Duty 4
12. PSP Iron Man
13. Wii We Ski
14. NDS Mario Kart
15. NDS New Super Mario Bros.
16. PS2 God of War 2
17. Wii Game Party
18. PS2 Guitar Hero III
19. PS3 Haze
20. Wii Super Mario Galaxy

June 2008
1. PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4 - 774,600
2. NDS Guitar Hero On Tour - 422,300
3. 360 Ninja Gaiden II - 372,700
4. Wii Fit - 372,700
5. Wii Play - 359,100
6. 360 Battlefield: Bad Company - 346,800
7. Wii Mario Kart - 322,400
8. Wii LEGO Indiana Jones - 294,500
9. NDS LEGO Indiana Jones - 267,800
10. PS2 LEGO Indiana Jones - 260,300
11. 360 Grand Theft Auto IV
12. Wii Rock Band
13. Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl
14. Wii Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
15. NDS Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
16. 360 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
17. PS2 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
18. NDS New Super Mario Bros.
19. PS3 Grand Theft Auto IV
20. 360 LEGO Indiana Jones

July 2008
1. 360 NCAA Football 09 - 397,600
2. Wii Fit - 369,600
3. NDS Guitar Hero On Tour - 309,700
4. Wii Play - 284,000
5. PS3 NCAA Football 09 - 242,500
6. 360 Soul Calibur IV - 218,900
7. Wii Mario Kart - 174,500
8. Wii Rock Band - 165,800
9. PS3 Soul Calibur IV - 155,800
10. 360 Civilization Revolution - 147,600
11. PS2 NCAA Football 09
12. 360 Battlefield: Bad Company
13. PS2 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
14. NDS New Super Mario Bros.
15. NDS Final Fantasy IV
16. Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl
17. NDS Mario Kart
18. 360 Unreal Tournament 3
19. Wii Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
20. PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4

August 2008
1. 360 Madden NFL 09 - 1.0 million
2. PS3 Madden NFL 09 - 643,000
3. PS2 Madden NFL 09 - 424,500
4. Wii Fit - 394,900
5. Wii Mario Kart - 328,700
6. Wii Play - 200,200
7. 360 Soul Calibur IV - 174,000
8. 360 Too Human - 168,200
9. Wii Madden NFL 09 - 115,800
10. NDS Guitar Hero: On Tour - 111,200
11. Wii Mario Super Sluggers
12. PS3 Soul Calibur IV
13. NDS New Super Mario Bros.
14. NDS Mario Kart
15. Wii Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
16. Wii Super Smash Bros: Brawl
17. NDS Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
18. PSP Madden NFL 09
19. 360 Call of Duty 4
20. NDS Mario Party

September 2008
1. 360 Star Wars: Force Unleashed - 610,000
2. Wii Fit - 518,000
3. 360 Rock Band 2 - 363,000
4. Wii Mario Kart - 353,000
5. PS3 Star Wars: Force Unleashed - 325,000
6. 360 Mercenaries 2 - 297,000
7. Wii Play - 243,000
8. 360 Madden NFL 09 - 224,000
9. Wii Star Wars: Force Unleashed - 223,000
10. PS2 Madden NFL 09 - 158,000
11. PS3 Madden NFL 09
12. PS2 LEGO Batman
13. Wii Mario Super Sluggers
14. PS2 Star Wars: Force Unleashed
15. NDS Kirby Super Star Ultra
16. PS3 Mercenaries 2
17. 360 NHL 09
18. Wii LEGO Batman
19. 360 LEGO Batman
20. 360 Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway

November 2008
1. 360 Gears of War 2 - 1.56 million
2. 360 Call of Duty: World at War - 1.41 million
3. Wii Play - 796,000
4. Wii Fit - 697,000
5. Wii Mario Kart - 637,000
6. PS3 Call of Duty: World at War - 597,000
7. Wii Guitar Hero: World Tour - 475,000
8. 360 Left 4 Dead - 410,000
9. PS3 Resistance 2 - 385,000
10. Wii Music - 297,000
11. Wii Animal Crossing: City Folk
12. 360 Fallout 3
13. Wii Rock Band
14. NDS Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia
15. 360 Guitar Hero: World Tour
16. NDS Mario Kart
17. PS2 Guitar Hero: World Tour
18. PS2 WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2009
19. 360 Fable II - 184,000
20. 360 Madden NFL 09

December 2008
1. Wii Play - 1.46 million
2. 360 Call of Duty: World at War - 1.33 million
3. Wii Fit - 999,000
4. Wii Mario Kart - 979,000
5. Wii Guitar Hero World Tour - 850,000
6. 360 Gears of War 2 - 745,000
7. 360 Left 4 Dead - 629,000
8. NDS Mario Kart - 540,000
9. PS3 Call of Duty: World at War - 533,000
10. Wii Animal Crossing: City Folk - 497,000
11. Wii Music
12. NDS New Super Mario Bros.
13. NDS Personal Trainer: Cooking
14. 360 Fallout 3
15. NDS Club Penguin: Elite Penguin Force
16. Wii Link's Crossbow Training
17. PS2 Guitar Hero World Tour
18. 360 Madden NFL 09
19. Wii Call of Duty: World at War
20. Wii Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip

 

[BishopLamont]

Just skimming over the OP contents of recent NPD threads (i.e. top ten only), I don't quite see the trend of PS3 owners not buying games. This one month here it may look like it, but that's the abberation, not the norm. The norm for PS360 multiplats, when both versions make it above the top ten cutoff so that we can compare them, is still that they sell in proportion with install bases, often slightly in favor of PS3 (which isn't surprising but still notable). Most recently CoD: WaW, Star Wars TFU and Madden. Been the same in '07 with CoD4 and Assassin's Creed. GTA IV and DMC4 were bought for PS3 significantly above install base proportions even.

There's not a huge breadth of data to go by, again due to the top-ten cutoffs, but the stuff that's available to us here shows PS3 owners as equally active at buying games as anybody else. Just not in January '09, for whatever reason.

The PS3 consistently had 1 or 2 game charting monthly in 08. January 09 isn't some rare occasion you're making it out to be.

 

[SimpleDesign]

...so the PS3 is the new Xbox...the two games it had in the top 20 for November were shooters, the ONE game it had in the top 20 in December was a shooter.

 

[Rolf NB]

Or Dec 08.

Specifically CoD: WaW was weaker. 2.35:1 and 2.5:1 (over two months) with install base ratios pretty close to 2:1.

Is that not only for those games, though? It's quite a different story from that of the Wii, where there are a number of games outside of the chart that continue to sell and sell over time.

The reason PS3's software sales aren't healthy is that outside of these big-name games, there's nothing else that shows up, not to mention that PS3 games aren't evergreen in terms of sales.

Games outside of the charts rarely show up in the charts. That's pretty normal actually.

 

[Jammy]

Yeah, all I see are the big titles selling (CoD, MGS4, GTAIV), and those drop out within a couple of months and don't put up numbers as high as their 360 counterparts do. Of course, we could look at ratios, but developers/publishers don't care about those - all they care about is raw numbers.

Basically, I see GCN syndrome, except GCN had a bunch of million sellers and it wouldn't cost companies an arm and a leg to develop a title for the system.


EDIT:

Games outside of the charts rarely show up in the charts. That's pretty normal actually.

What I mean, for example, are games like Carnival Games, DDR: Hottest Party, etc. on Wii that never chart, but then we see that they end up doing hundreds of thousands to a million despite that fact. Those licensed titles like Lego Star Wars, etc. that do well, too, are a good example.

Healthy software sales aren't determined so much by the few big titles as they are by the many smaller/budget ones.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

data

May:
360 - 2
Wii - 8
PS3 - 2

June:
360 - 5
Wii - 7
PS3 - 2

July:
360 - 5
Wii - 6
PS3 - 3

August:
360 - 4
Wii - 7
PS3 - 2

September:
360 - 7
Wii - 6
PS3 - 3

November:
360 - 7
Wii - 7
PS3 - 2

December:
360 - 5
Wii - 9
PS3 - 1

Interesting.

 

[DiddyBop]

i dunno why ppl are shocked at the sales of nsmb or mario kart ds. there are millions of new DS owners every month,they gotta play something.and most people start with the basics when they pick up a new DS.

 

[Rolf NB]

Yeah, all I see are the big titles selling (CoD, MGS4, GTAIV), and those drop out within a couple of months and don't put up numbers as high as their 360 counterparts do. Of course, we could look at ratios, but developers/publishers don't care about those - all they care about is raw numbers.

That wasn't the argument. The argument was that PS3 owners don't buy games and use the device for movies or something (see Narcosis's post). It doesn't seem to be the case going by the numbers that we have (edit: which is to say sales figures of simultaneously released multiplatform games).

If there is a trend in that direction, it's very recent, as the only indicator that fits it is CoD: WaW.

If you're worried about publishers supporting the PS3 going forward, you should have another look at their revenue splits. PS3 revenues look healthy for all of them. Of course that's due to revenue from markets other than the US, which is particularly weak for the PS3, but it guarantees ongoing PS3 multiplat support nonetheless.

 

[RSTEIN]

That wasn't the argument. The argument was that PS3 owners don't buy games and use the device for movies or something (see Narcosis's post). It doesn't seem to be the case going by the numbers that we have (edit: which is to say sales figures of simultaneously released multiplatform games).

If there is a trend in that direction, it's very recent, as the only indicator that fits it is CoD: WaW.

The concern is the absence of PS3 software in the top 20. Both 3rd party and 1st party. Same for December - only 1 or 2 titles landed in the top 20. That's pretty shocking.

Edit: it's not a recent trend, as demonstrated above.

 

[BishopLamont]

snip

February 08:
360 - 7
Wii - 6
PS3 - 2

March 08:
360 - 4
Wii - 5
PS3 - 3

April 08:
360 - 5
Wii - 7
PS3 - 2

October 08:
360 - 8
Wii - 4
PS3 - 7 (!)

January 09:
360 - 8
Wii - 9
PS3 - 1

 

[Rolf NB]

The concern is the absence of PS3 software in the top 20. Both 3rd party and 1st party. Same for December - only 1 or 2 titles landed in the top 20. That's pretty shocking.

Edit: it's not a recent trend, as demonstrated above.

You don't know what these chart positions mean. How many units did #20 sell in January? 20k? 100k? We don't know, and hence we don't know what "not in the top 20" means for the sales of a title.
Going by install base proportions, CoD: WaW PS3 "should" have sold 118k and Skate 2 PS3 "should" have sold 100k (half of Xbox 360 version sales in both cases). Your worry should be proportional to how far these targets have been missed, but that's something you don't know.

 

[wayward archer]

February 08:
360 - 7
Wii - 6
PS3 - 2

March 08:
360 - 4
Wii - 5
PS3 - 3

April 08:
360 - 5
Wii - 7
PS3 - 2

October 08:
360 - 8
Wii - 4
PS3 - 7 (!)

January 09:
360 - 8
Wii - 9
PS3 - 1

This is actually one of the most shocking things I have ever read on these boards.

 

[markatisu]

That's not the point. The point is that Sony is in the Gamecube position. But Gamecube was not that costly and didn't get creampied in the press like the PS3 is. Gamecube was low-profile but still surviving.

The more I go through this thread, the more it looks like people actually want to see the PS3 die (probably because of the irritatinig Sony fanboys ?)

Actually that is the point, if the PS3 is not selling by loads its own software then what draw does it have over the 360? At least the Gamecube had multiple big sellers even if it finished in 3rd place

I for one resent your last comment especially, I own the PS3 and I really do not want to see it die but at the same time I do not see Sony even trying to reach the market the PS2 did, when push comes to shove the only games that really sell on it are multiplatform games and looking over the last 12 months of sales only one game that charted in the Top 20 was a PS3 exclusive (Resistance 2) and it was a shooter ala the key demographic of the 360

And of course the rare super mega budgeted MGS4 (which I did buy)

 

[RSTEIN]

You don't know what these chart positions mean. How many units did #20 sell in January? 20k? 100k? We don't know, and hence we don't know what "not in the top 20" means for the sales of a title.
Going by install base proportions, CoD: WaW PS3 "should" have sold 118k and Skate 2 PS3 "should" have sold 100k (half of Xbox 360 version sales in both cases). Your worry should be proportional to how far these targets have been missed, but that's something you don't know.

We don't know precisely, but we have pretty good estimates. We can triangulate the numbers by combining the top 10 NPD sales data with data from different sites. The numbers haven't been pretty.

 

[markatisu]

You don't know what these chart positions mean. How many units did #20 sell in January? 20k? 100k? We don't know, and hence we don't know what "not in the top 20" means for the sales of a title.

Going by install base proportions, CoD: WaW PS3 "should" have sold 118k and Skate 2 PS3 "should" have sold 100k (half of Xbox 360 version sales in both cases). Your worry should be proportional to how far these targets have been missed, but that's something you don't know.

It depends on which month you are talking about, IGN, our member jvm here, and some other analysts usually tease out where the cut off is for the Top 20 a week or so after the numbers hit. So this week we might find out about where the estimate is for Skate II and COD WaW on the PS3

 

[Grampa Simpson]

This is actually one of the most shocking things I have ever read on these boards.

 

[BishopLamont]

You don't know what these chart positions mean. How many units did #20 sell in January? 20k? 100k? We don't know, and hence we don't know what "not in the top 20" means for the sales of a title.
Going by install base proportions, CoD: WaW PS3 "should" have sold 118k and Skate 2 PS3 "should" have sold 100k (half of Xbox 360 version sales in both cases). Your worry should be proportional to how far these targets have been missed, but that's something you don't know.

Skate 2 failed to even chart in the top 20, and if #10 is 113k, it's safe to assume anything past #20 isn't going to crack 100k. CoD: WaW is at #11 so 100k is a reasonable guess too.

 

[Luckyman]

All top 20 I could find from last year....not much PS3 games buying going on.

Again, this is fairly ridiculous. In December you have about 5% of PS3 software sales in that chart.

 

[alanias]

The most bizarre thing is that Sony got into this industry by understanding the importance of price point. The lower price point of PS1 combined with Sega shooting themselves in the foot is what allowed Sony to succeed. To come back two generations later and just assume that people would pay 200 dollars extra for your hardware is the worst kind of arrogance.

Regardless, at the end of the day the consumer wins this round. Microsoft and Sony fighting tooth and nail means that many more great games.

 

[Jokeropia]

From what they are announcing i don't see them moving anything. Two new BF games last week, none for the market leader.

Yes, I'm sure they lied to their investors right in the face.

 

[Flakster99]

For the month of January, Lego Star Wars: Complete Saga for the Wii has outsold all but one of the ps3 titles, which is Call of Duty: World At War.

Lego fucking Star Wars. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Rolf NB]

It depends on which month you are talking about, IGN, our member jvm here, and some other analysts usually tease out where the cut off is for the Top 20 a week or so after the numbers hit. So this week we might find out about where the estimate is for Skate II and COD WaW on the PS3

That was about January 2009, and I picked these two because they are the highest multiplats where we have sales figures (not just the chart positions) for the Xbox 360 version. The third is LoTR: Conquest, where by the same token the happiness threshold is 57k. Unless more has been revealed somewhere in this thread, that's it. We don't have any other yardsticks for the month.

I'm all for less tea leaves, more information. I'm looking forward to jvm's article.

 

[Oblivion]

It's kind of annoying to see that the PS3 seems to be the exception for almost every ironclad rule in video game history.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

It's kind of annoying to see that the PS3 seems to be the exception for almost every ironclad rule in video game history.

Except for the 2 generation rule?

 

[perfectchaos007]

Look Sony, all you have to do is make Jet Moto 4 and I will personally pay $399 for your console and give you 1 more PS3 sale. Trust me Sony, you need every sale you can get. I'm trying to help yall out here

 

[donny2112]

NSMB sold more this january :lol

January 2007 was also a five week month.

 

[cr_blah_blah]

following up on the earlier top 20s, more info on Oct. 08' numbers yoopoo couldn't locate:

360 Fable II - 790K
Wii Fit - 487K
360 Fallout 3 - 375K
Wii Mario Kart Wii - 290K
Wii Play - 282K
360 Saints Row 2 - 270K
PS3 Socom: Confrontation - 231K
PS3 LittleBigPlanet - 215K
360 NBA 2K9 - 202K
360 Dead Space - 193K

360 Guitar Hero: World Tour - 191k
Wii Guitar Hero: World Tour - 183k
NDS Kirby Super Star Ultra
PS3 Fallout 3
PS3 Dead Space
PS3 Rock Band 2 - 118k
PS3 NBA 2K9
360 Far Cry 2
360 Fifa Soccer 09
PS3 Guitar Hero: World Tour - 97k

according to Gamespot Rock Band 2 for 360 sold about 119k even though it's not on the chart

PS3 charted a lot but was almost outsold by 360's top 2 titles. Still a good showing and by far the best throughout the year in amount of titles. Yet it continues the trend of basically 2:1. PS3 needs more actual blockbusters and it'd be much closer.

 

[RubberJohnny]

Well that pretty conclusively kills the 'Sales are good proportionally' line.

 

[Sadist]

Wow at those top 20 software sales through the year. Its very consistent, except for October of course.

 

[DuckRacer]

For the month of January, Lego Star Wars: Complete Saga for the Wii has outsold all but one of the ps3 titles, which is Call of Duty: World At War.

Lego fucking Star Wars. Draw your own conclusions.

It's even more hilarious when you consider it's a year old compilation of two four/two-and-a-half year old games.

 

[Aaron Strife]

It's even more hilarious when you consider it's a year old

You could say that about World at War, too

OH SNAP

 

[markatisu]

It's even more hilarious when you consider it's a year old compilation of two four/two-and-a-half year old games.

When was the last time Lego Star Wars charted on Wii? Wasnt it Nov or Dec of 07? If so thats just funny because its showing evergreen legs

 

[Narcosis]

That wasn't the argument. The argument was that PS3 owners don't buy games and use the device for movies or something (see Narcosis's post). It doesn't seem to be the case going by the numbers that we have (edit: which is to say sales figures of simultaneously released multiplatform games).

I didn't actually say PS3 software doesn't sell, I was raising the question of why PS3 software sales are trailing behind the 360 when compared to similar points in their install base numbers in the US.

In worldwide terms we have seen reports that the PS3 is indeed a worthy revenue source for several publishers who have released their numbers. Speaking strictly in terms of the uS market though there does seem to be an odd disparity. Some multiplatform games do perform on equal ratio to install base (GTA, CoD) and many others don't. So my post was trying to get to the point of why there's a difference in behavior amongst the userbases of the two consoles, not to imply that PS3 games don't sell.

 

[Oblivion]

Except for the 2 generation rule?

No, not even that.

"PS3 will bounce back, just you wait til Sony drops the price! What else do you think those loyal other 100 million people that made up the PS2 userbase are waiting for?"

"Look at the legs on LBP! It may not be in the top 20, but it'll continue to sell consistently until it reaches 10 million units! Unlike all those other 20+ games that charted higher which will obviously stop selling. PS3 am software BEAST!"

"Sony may not have too many spots in the top 20, but spots 21-87 are where the REAL money's made!"