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[Bruno MB]

In November 2007 Game Boy Advance sold 641,000 units, Nintendo DS was already 2 years old. The crazy thing is that this year 3DS + Wii U probably barely matched that. This should be an all-time low for the company since the 8 bits era.

It's really sad to see Nintendo in such a terrible shape.

 

[Radec]

Little hope for it to have sold half as much as that.

http://time.com/4142947/nintendo-fils-aime-interview/

Damn, that's alot of cheap plastic toys.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

Yep NX is a must for Nintendo for 2016.

I'm personally hoping for one more year of Wii U software.

 

[outunderthestars]

Wii U flat YoY is disappointing. I honestly think that Slatoon/Smash bundle would help. Maybe it did but sales outside of Black Friday was lower than last year.

I think Nintendo has hit the upper limit of hardcore Nintendo fans.

 

[ArmGunar]

Next year is packed for PS4 plus 3rd party, TR will not doing anything major on PS4.

SE will learn the hard way with this one.

Yeah, I read another post with all potentials exclusive and multiplats that will come next year's end, it will be very hard for SE ... they played, they lost.

 

[Jumeira]

will Halo 5 be the Gran Turismo 6 of the Halo Games?

Hardly, community is behind it, and its sales are still considerably large (just not Halo levels). The multiplayer + support will keep it in the charts, for some time id imagine.

 

[opticalmace]

Anyone see any numbers for Yo-Kai Watch, Ultra Smash, Amiibo Festival, or Super Mystery Dungeon?

Zhuge said sales of Yokai were not good, but we don't know any numbers.

 

[PanicFreak]

It might help. Because most people prefer to spend 60$ on COD than Halo it seems. Releasing it earlier would help people not to make that choice.

I seriously doubt it would help a franchise like Halo. A strategic release early in the year may help for a game like Sunset Overdrive but not something like Halo. Just look at what Queso said: 20 games sold more than 300k last month. People are spending money. They are choosing not to spend as much of it on Halo 5 as they did for previous Halos.

 

[AwRy108]

Yea third party's have really stepped there game up last gen, your average gamer doesn't really care much about exlusives anymore. Shit, when you think about gtav or cod alone will sell more consoles then all exlusives combined.

PS3 was the perfect example of this: several years of great 1st party exclusives that sold like crap. I bought all of them, so I did my part!

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

Are you still going on about this? You are literally comparing the strongest performing games on other consoles to the less popular games on PS2. Why not compare top games to top games? How about Gran Turismo, or Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X, etc. You are just shitposting now. All of this has dick all to do with 2015 NPD sales.

Or you're just in denial.

Jak 1 is a strong perfoming game is is at the top of the PS2's best selling games. So is Metal of Honor.

Also why would I compare Gt to Halo? You said Install base means that a game should sell more, so using your flawed logic I pointed out tons of games the PS2 had that were Popular and TOP SELLERS, high metal of Honor and Jak 1, and they did not reach the sales of Halo, Halo 2, or SMS.

In fact again, if not mistaken the PS2 didn't have a Wrpg to beat Fable either. But I'll wait on verification on that one.

You pretending games like Jak, metal of Honor, Red Faction, Starwars Battle Front, Ratchet and Clank, were not popular games is insanity.

 

[nullpoynter]

Ouch! The burn.

 

[JuanLatino]

That all depends on how the next Gran Turismo game performs, because I don't see Halo 6 being as successful as 360 era Halo games were.

True...

Halo 5 will probably the worst selling mainline title in the franchise

 

[Culex]

In November 2007 Game Boy Advance sold 641,000 units, Nintendo DS was already 2 years old. The crazy thing is that 3DS + Wii U probably barely matched that. This should be an all-time low for the company since over 2 decades ago.

It's really sad to see Nintendo in such a terrible shape.

Sad how Nintendo went from a system that sold THREE POINT EIGHT million units in December 2010 to this...it's unbelievable how a new generation can change things.

 

[Yurikerr]

But last year Xbox had AW bundles. And it still sold more on Xbox One, Xbox 360 than PS4.

Of course I am talking about NPD monthly chart. I know one of the clown will pick my post and say ya NA = WW. Need to be specific every time even though this is NPD thread.

But you are contradicting yourself. Last year there the COD marketing wasn't with Sony, and as the bundles were for XB1 you could not add the bundle numbers to the standalone software.

 

[user_nat]

So the most interesting thing here is no Minecraft.

 

[IvorB]

My full NPD story.

Microsoft PR:

“Last month was our best November ever in the U.S. for Xbox One, setting new records for console sales, game sales and Xbox Live engagement. The most critically-acclaimed holiday lineup of exclusives in Xbox history helped drive 44 percent growth in Xbox Live hours over last November, and 72 percent growth in U.S. first-party retail game sales comparing sales from August through November in 2015 to the same period last year. It’s amazing to see the energy from Xbox fans for exclusives like ‘Halo 5: Guardians,’ ‘Rise of the Tomb Raider,’ ‘Forza Motorsport 6,’ ‘Gears of War: Ultimate Edition’ and ‘Rare Replay,’ for the incredible catalog of third-party games on Xbox One and for Xbox One Backward Compatibility, which launched in November. This holiday is shaping up to be a great one for our industry and for Xbox fans.” – Mike Nichols, Corporate Vice President, Xbox Marketing, Microsoft

MS spin is becoming increasingly complex.

 

[Sterok]

Wii U flat YoY is good seeing how it had absolutely nothing this month, and I doubt Nintendo really cares much anymore at this point. At this point it just needs to keep trickling out until NX.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

Different times, Halo isn't as popular as it used to be, Halo 5 charting so low is evidence of that.

That wasn't the point.

 

[Welfare]

Ah, so this article is incorrect.

Correct. The article in the OP mistakenly thought the 11 million was for Wii U, but has been corrected.

 

[Mr Moose]

But last year Xbox had AW bundles. And it still sold more on Xbox One, Xbox 360 than PS4.

What if the physical split is closer this year and this years bundles sold more than AWs?

 

[AgentChris]

They dun murdered Tomb Raider's revival. I hope those few bucks in your pocket were worth it, ya dummies.

Maybe the next reboot won't be bungled.

 

[Bolivar687]

But last year Xbox had AW bundles. And it still sold more on Xbox One, Xbox 360 than PS4.

Of course I am talking about NPD monthly chart. I know one of the clown will pick my post and say ya NA = WW. Need to be specific every time even though this is NPD thread.

That's true but that bundle was selling for $500, I think this one is a little less. I could also see the players switching picking it up, giving it a boost the Advanced Warfare bundle might not have. That and those waiting for the first Treyarch CoD. Probably not but I'm curious what the numbers are.

Agreed about having to clarify NA vs WW... annoying.

 

[Baroquemantic]

Looks like I won this bet. I'll be going on a flight momentarily and won't be able to make an avatar. Can anyone make a Trump one?

What sort of Trump avatar?

A picture of Trump with Trump 2016 at the bottom

The ultimate embarrassing avatar



Haha this works too!

This one is pretty good, lol. I can still add trump 2016 to it.

Trump Raider

Yes!
The second one. Perfect!

Trump? Not cool. You're all a bunch of evil mofos!

I would say I've learned my lesson, but I'm sure I'll end up making more bets in the future. It's all in good fun anyway. >

 

[Kuni]

Just gutted for Crystal Dynamics now. Game was sent to die when they clearly delivered. Shame.

 

[SeanR1221]

In November 2007 Game Boy Advance sold 641,000 units, Nintendo DS was already 2 years old. The crazy thing is that 3DS + Wii U probably barely matched that. This should be an all-time low for the company since the 8 bits era.

It's really sad to see Nintendo in such a terrible shape.

I just honestly don't know where they go from here.

They won't get third part support back, or the hardcore gamer, casuals and kids are lost to tablets and phones..

 

[ArmGunar]

Bright side: maybe SE will fastforward the PS4/PC ports?

There was rumored that initially it was 6 months-exclusivity deal but with all the pressure by gamers to know if it will be permanent exclusivity for Xbox One or not ... SE and MS have re-negociated the contract and it allows SE to talk about PC/PS4 versions but the 6 months deal become 12 months-exclusivity deal ...

I wonder if it's real

 

[onQ123]

No one would believe the old gen number

PS3 +Wii + Xbox 360 = 215k ?

 

[Anth0ny]

Wii U flat YoY is good seeing how it had absolutely nothing this month, and I doubt Nintendo really cares much anymore at this point. At this point it just needs to keep trickling out until NX.

I mean, I figured numbers would be up thanks to the $250 Wii U with Splatoon and Smash. I think this just says everyone who wants a Wii U already has one.

they are fucking CRAZY if they don't launch the NX console by next November.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Holy shit @ that response. LOL

 

[Phamit]

I wonder why the Wii U is not down YOY, you could buy a PS4 for the same price

 

[gundamkyoukai]

That all depends on how the next Gran Turismo game performs, because I don't see Halo 6 being as successful as 360 era Halo games were.

I think the last time we get sales for the GT series 6 end up being around 5 million or so .
I really wonder if halo 5 can get that high .

 

[BeforeU]

But you are contradicting yourself. Last year there the COD marketing wasn't with Sony, and as the bundles were for XB1 you could not add the bundle numbers to the standalone software.

No no.

I am saying, last year Xbox marketing for COD. and they had game bundle.

Still without counting the bundled copy, Xbox One version of the game sold more.

This year, people are saying well PS4 had bundle that's why it didn't outsell Xbox One stand alone copies. But last year Xbox had bundle copy and still stand alone outsold PS4 version.

You see what I mean?

 

[MaineUPTDC]

all cool bruh.



That's not how it works, that's not how any of it works.
You can't buy something that's not on sale at the first place. What's wrong with you people.

With this logic, MS can buy EA, Activision, Sony, Nintendo all together because they have almost 90 billion of cash reserved.

Of course that's not how it works. And who said Nintendo was up for sale?? But saying Microsoft "can't afford it" is ridiculous lmao

 

[SomedayTheFire]

There was rumored that initially it was 6 months-exclusivity deal but with all the pressure by gamers to know if it will be permanent exclusivity for Xbox One or not ... SE and MS have re-negociated the contract and it allows SE to talk about PC/PS4 versions but the 6 months deal become 12 months-exclusivity deal ...

I wonder if it's real

Lol that is not true

Of course that's not how it works. And who said Nintendo was up for sale?? But saying Microsoft "can't afford it" is ridiculous lmao

Microsoft's hardware and devices decisions =/= Microsoft.

 

[Jumeira]

It didn't chart very well because Crystal Dynamics and Square Enix sold their soul to the devil. They got their just rewards.

CD made one of the best games they've ever produced, its sales performance isn't going to take that away. So I doubt they're as unhappy as youd like them to be. MS on the other hand absolutely!

 

[RoKKeR]

I just honestly don't know where they go from here.

They won't get third part support back, or the hardcore gamer, casuals and kids are lost to tablets and phones..

You don't think they'll get third party support if the NX has comparable specs to the current consoles? They run the risk of another WiiU situation but it would at least he coming a bit sooner in the cycle.

 

[Tivor Tontomo]

But that's not what's happening. Not even close.

What?

Last year the gap was less than 500k wasn't it?

Now it's what? Still less than 1 million and Sony still hasn't done enough to push Xbox one out the way?
I mean I guess we'll no next year, but with December and the Xbox having no games for the 1st half of the year strategy being changed, it's going to be hard to predict.

One way for Sony to finally put a nail in Xbox in NPD is to stay at $299 and have an alternate $299 bundle. Maybe The order or something.

 

[hawk2025]

You guys can't even begin to do this "marketing impact" analysis for Call of Duty before normalizing the sales difference for last year's sales difference.

At the very least.

Bonus points for weighting by the total number of consoles sold for each platform first.

Simply comparing rankings and making inference on the impact of marketing is completely pointless.

 

[ninjablade]

I mean, I figured numbers would be up thanks to the $250 Wii U with Splatoon and Smash. I think this just says everyone who wants a Wii U already has one.

they are fucking CRAZY if they don't launch the NX console by next November.

NX better be something out of this world, or its gonna bomb in a very bad way ñ.

 

[Alebrije]

I'm personally hoping for one more year of Wii U software.

Yep but saddly after Zelda there is nothing big, even 2016 looks scarse for great games from Nintendo unless they release somethong like :

Mario Galaxy 3
Metroid game
Golden sun
New Pounch out
Fzero
Etc

They have IPs bit do not think will dedicate 2106 to develop them for the WiiU

 

[Mahonay]

I wonder why the Wii U is not down YOY, you could buy a PS4 for the same price

Super Mario Maker probably enticed some people. If it was in my budget I would have picked up one during Black Friday weekend.

 

[darkwing]

There was rumored that initially it was 6 months-exclusivity deal but with all the pressure by gamers to know if it will be permanent exclusivity for Xbox One or not ... SE and MS have re-negociated the contract and it allows SE to talk about PC/PS4 versions but the 6 months deal become 12 months-exclusivity deal ...

I wonder if it's real

SE must have demanded more $$$ or else they are fools

 

[SeanR1221]

You don't think they'll get third party support if the NX has comparable specs to the current consoles? They run the risk of another WiiU situation but it would at least he coming a bit sooner in the cycle.

Why would people buy an NX for those games when they already have a PS4 (or XB1).

 

[Appollowexx]

I hope these awful Tomb Raider sales lead to the game releasing on PS4 earlier than next fall.

SE need to salvage this mess.

Great numbers for PS4 and XB1 this November. Its good to see there's still a healthy market for consoles these days.

 

[Cyriades]

Close to 200K for Rise of the Tomb Raider? Jesus christ.

 

[EGM1966]

There was rumored that initially it was 6 months-exclusivity deal but with all the pressure by gamers to know if it will be permanent exclusivity for Xbox One or not ... SE and MS have re-negociated the contract and it allows SE to talk about PC/PS4 versions but the 6 months deal become 12 months-exclusivity deal ...

I wonder if it's real

If that's real then SE compounded a stupid decision with an even stupider decision.

Surely they wouldn't agree to doubling the duration of delay just to confirm the platform? The market already assumed it was coming to PS4 anyway.

 

[allan-bh]

PS3 +Wii + Xbox 360 = 215k ?

Old gen is less than 100k combined. He already said in the other thread.

 

[Sterok]

If Wii U sold 240K this month, it has to be over 11 million worldwide even if there's no PR stating that. It was at 10.73 million as of September, and even Wii U can pull a few hundred thousand between October and other regions.

 

[opticalmace]

What?

Last year the gap was less than 500k wasn't it?

Now it's what? Still less than 1 million and Sony still hasn't done enough to push Xbox one out the way?
I mean I guess we'll no next year, but with December and the Xbox having no games for the 1st half of the year strategy being changed, it's going to be hard to predict.

One way for Sony to finally put a nail in Xbox in NPD is to stay at $299 and have an alternate $299 bundle. Maybe The order or something.

It doesn't even matter. PS4 and XB1 being competitive in NPD means that the PS4 is dominating worldwide.

 

[Tobor]

I did think this through. I must be too dumb. Please explain why my terrible brain don't understand this.

X1 had the AW bundles and sold more software, not including bundles. The bundles are irrelevant, as they can't change the outcome.

This year, the bundles are on PS4 and the X1 sold more software. The bundles are now very relevant as they can change the outcome. We don't know how far behind PS4 is and we don't know how many bundles they sold.

Get it?