Is there anyone else beside myself who are interested in OLED partially for their energy savings?
If you have a plasma display, that makes sense. Those things were power hogs.
However OLEDs being emissive displays are not extremely efficient themselves either.
That's part of the reason they have such an aggressive brightness limiter.
The most efficient type of display is an edge-lit LCD, if your concern is power consumption over anything else.
That said, it is almost never worthwhile to replace working hardware with something else for the sake of efficiency or "the environment".
It takes far more resources to manufacture and ship a new display than it does to stick with what you have got and keep using it until it dies.
A more efficient product rarely pays for itself over the useful lifetime of the product.
People should be replacing dead hardware with more efficient options, not buying new hardware to replace perfectly functional but less efficient hardware.
In most cases anyway, I'm sure there will always be exceptions.
I got rid of a 400 Watt 60-inch LG Plasma from 2009 two months ago. My electricity bill since then went down by 40-50 bucks. Simply by replacing my tv to a 90 Watt monitor.
That's 40-50 bucks more every month. This realization have made me question the power draw of all of my electronics and it has made me really interested in OLED. I don't like the idea that my energy bill gets fucked up because I buy power hungry tech if it doesn't have to be.
Is that actually what your bill says, or an estimate based on the power supply ratings? Because saving ~$45/month would be at the extreme side of things.
Very unusual to be saving that much when replacing like-for-like.
Still, if your plan is to replace that plasma with a $4000 65" OLED, it would take ~7.5 years to pay for itself, which is probably longer than most people intend to keep their displays.
And that doesn't factor in its own running costs either, which means it's going to take even longer to pay for itself.
Of course there are other reasons to want to upgrade from a plasma to a new TV, but like I said, it rarely ever saves you money to switch to something more efficient when you work out the full cost vs how long you expect the useful lifespan of the product will be.
My desktop has a 1000 watt powersupply, but the draw seems to not even reach 500 watt at load. It's fucking stupid.
A power supply rating is its maximum load, not its power draw.
The system will only draw what it needs.
Power supplies are at their most efficient around 50% load so if it's drawing 500Wwhich is very high for a gaming PC these days unless you're using SLIthen your system is probably at peak efficiency under load which is ideal.
With a 1000W power supply you are probably not going to be in the most efficient range when idle, but again it is almost never worth the cost of replacing it for that.
At idle loads the difference in efficiency is only a few watts, not hundreds, and it would take decades for a power supply to pay for itself.
As long as the PSU is
80PLUS rated, it's not something you have to think about. Higher wattage power supplies are usually the most efficient.
Considering that a power supply is something you should be replacing every 5-10 years anyway (always replace them once the warranty expires) that will never happen.
The Best Buy units weren't showing static images for 16+ hours though. People were seeing burn-in from the "LG 4K" logos that would pop up at various times of the demo loop.
It doesn't have to be at 100% brightness to cause issues either (it definitely doesn't help). Some emissive sets get annoying IR even when brightness/contrast is at 60-70%.
Burn-in/Image Retention is all about accumulative wear on emissive displays, not continuous use.
Continuous use will just cause it to happen sooner.
That's why I am still a little concerned about OLED.
You can run compensation cycles as a temporary measure but I don't expect that to be a permanent solution.
Eventually you will have to start lowering the brightness of the entire display to keep it looking uniform.
Since LCDs are not emissive displays, this is not a problem for them.
When you switch the display off - whether that's putting it on standby or killing the power at the wall - the pixels will return to their resting state.
With the exception of some displays with faulty overdrive systems, or situations where the image is kept on-screen 24/7/365 like commercial applications, that's why you cannot cause permanent damage to an LCD display.
Burn-in is technically impossible on an LCD too, what happens in that situation is that the pixels get "stuck" in one state - which is why this can often be undone by displaying flashing images on-screen for a while.
It's not like an emissive display where the pixels are actually "worn down" due to extended use.
Those were the 2015 that were thought or known to have that issue. 2016 had new technology in it not to have that happen.
Image retention is happening on the 2016 OLEDs with HDR games.
It's minor, as image retention goes, but it is happening.
Please don't tell people that it doesn't.
How do they know it was permanent burn in? My VT60 has some gnarly ass image retention but surprisingly even that eventually goes away.
It's true that actual
permanent damage is uncommon outside of commercial usage.
Usually it will fade enough over time that it's no longer a concern.
However with plasma TVs the "over time" part could mean weeks or even
months before it disappears, depending on your usage.
I know people that had game HUD image retention on their Panasonic plasmas for months before it disappeared. I had burn-in on a Pioneer 5080 that never went away.
It was minor but it happened within the first week of buying the TV and was faint but never disappeared.
Damn it. So I want to get the 49" ks8000 this week (returning my 43" x800d for it). But I just saw that the 55" is now down to 1000 and the 49 inch is back to 1100. I thought making the jump to 49 was going to be a bit ridiculous but I can't see myself going 55. Help
I've never known anyone to regret buying a bigger TV than they planned to.
I do know a lot of people that wished they had bought the size larger than they have now.
