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[yogaflame]

Ummm...

https://www.videogameschronicle.com...nsole-as-switch-successor-speculation-mounts/

Sharp is making LCD displays for ‘a new console’ as Switch successor speculation mounts​

In an earnings call on Thursday, Sharp CEO Robert Wu said the Japanese electronics company will launch pilot LCD-panel production lines for the new device during its current fiscal year ending in March 2024.

“I can’t comment on any details regarding specific customers. But as to a new gaming console, we’ve been involved in its R&D stage,” he told analysts (via Bloomberg).

The price of Switch 2 might reach $499 if this and other rumored technology are true.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

Slow down miss piggy. You’ll get some 60fps games and some 30 fps games. Yes for any frame drops or stutters VRR helps but is never going over 60 fps at best anyway.

 

[RoboFu]

Sonys flagship TVs are lcd. They are better in bright daylight.

 

[Minsc]

Sonys flagship TVs are lcd. They are better in bright daylight.

And yet, LG's TVs are OLED and just better. RTINGs agrees.

I mean we don't really have to make this complicated. We already have a LCD Switch and an OLED Switch, and anyone with both knows just how much better the OLED is.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

LED is very disappointing, but I’ll probably usually play in docked mode anyway. I’m not expecting much as far as horsepower and visuals go, but we’ll see.

 

[delishcaek]

Well, it's a better screen if the rumors are right than in the 2025 MacBook Air for 3x the price, which is an LCD at 60hz no HDR or VRR.

Yeah, no. Switch may have a higher refresh, but I kinda doubt it's going to hit 500 nits and 98% DCI P3 Wide color gamut with a 1400:1 contrast ratio. It is also highly doubtful that Nintendo bonds the LCD layer to the glass and uses a high quality AR coating.

There is more to IPS LCDs than refresh rate and refresh rate in itself also doesn't mean that it's free of smearing. The LCD could be extremely bad. Like 800:1 contrast ratio, 200 nits brightness and 30ms response time, all paired with 62.5% sRGB coverage and not laminated... but hey it's 120Hz, so better than a Macbook or Surface screen.

It will most likely be as good (or bad depending on your standards) as the regular Switch display. 1000:1, 350-400nits, full sRGB coverage (no DCI P3). I personally hope it's laminated.

 

[Trilobit]

I think this pretty much guarantees we'll see 240fps games on the Switch 2.

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

For mobile size range it's hard to find a display that's not 120Hz OLED in the last 1-2 years.

 

[Minsc]

Yeah, no. Switch may have a higher refresh, but I kinda doubt it's going to hit 500 nits and 98% DCI P3 Wide color gamut with a 1400:1 contrast ratio. It is also highly doubtful that Nintendo bonds the LCD layer to the glass and uses a high quality AR coating.

There is more to IPS LCDs than refresh rate and refresh rate in itself also doesn't mean that it's free of smearing. The LCD could be extremely bad. Like 800:1 contrast ratio, 200 nits brightness and 30ms response time, all paired with 62.5% sRGB coverage and not laminated... but hey it's 120Hz, so better than a Macbook or Surface screen.

It will most likely be as good (or bad depending on your standards) as the regular Switch display. 1000:1, 350-400nits, full sRGB coverage (no DCI P3). I personally hope it's laminated.

60hz on a laptop sounds terrible to me, and that MacBook Air has a 33ms response time. That's terrible, an OLED is 1ms or less. Shit screen on that MBA for $1200.

FYI a 33ms response time is what you'd expect on a 30fps display. Shit can't even properly resolve 60fps.

And to compare the Switch OLED screen to that MBA, the contrast ratio on the Switch is 1,000,000:1, vs 1,400:1. And the response time on the Switch is .1ms vs 33ms on the MBA. Granted it doesn't have HDR, that's the biggest drawback, but it's still a vastly better screen than that MBA IMO.

 

[delishcaek]

60hz on a laptop sounds terrible to me, and that MacBook Air has a 33ms response time. That's terrible, an OLED is 1ms or less. Shit screen on that MBA for $1200.

FYI a 33ms response time is what you'd expect on a 30fps display. Shit can't even properly resolve 60fps.

And to compare the Switch OLED screen to that MBA, the contrast ratio on the Switch is 1,000,000:1, vs 1,400:1. And the response time on the Switch is .1ms vs 33ms on the MBA. Granted it doesn't have HDR, that's the biggest drawback, but it's still a vastly better screen than that MBA IMO.

Great... someone with dementia. Let me help you out here as you have apparently forgotten what this thread is about and what you initially replied to:

You were saying that the LCD of the Switch 2 will be better than the LCD of an MBA because the Switch 2 has 120Hz and HDR or VRR. LCD vs LCD.

I am telling you that you can't just say that the Switch 2 screen is automatically better because "120Hz VRR". That's simply not how it works. Especially not when we know the Switch LCD specs which are inferior to an MBA screen in every single way and Nintendo can't drop huge amounts of money on a great LCD.

Now you are comparing an OLED to an LCD. No one was talking about the OLED.

 

[Embearded]

Doesn't matter, pokemon will still run like shit.

 

[Bojji]

Doesn't matter, pokemon will still run like shit.

With VRR+LFC in 120Hz refresh rate it would be smoother for sure.

 

[Embearded]

With VRR+LFC in 120Hz refresh rate it would be smoother for sure.

You can have your own personal jesus inside the machine and it won't matter.

 

[Bojji]

You can have your own personal jesus inside the machine and it won't matter.

To be honest I'm pretty sure that game developed by Game Freak would have terrible performance even if Switch 2 had RTX 5090 inside.

 

[Azelover]

The price of Switch 2 might reach $499 if this and other rumored technology are true.

That's what I'm thinking.. I'm really curious to know what the price is. Remember, there is no loss here. We're gonna have to pay for every inch of it..plus Nintendo's profit margin..people seem to forget about that..

 

[daclynk]

A big update if true.

 

[kevboard]

The price of Switch 2 might reach $499 if this and other rumored technology are true.

there are $350 phones with 120hz AMOLED displays...

I don't think the screen will be a big concern when it comes to the price

 

[mathello]

Anyone who thinks the switch 2 will not be 500 $ has to rethink how he sees the world. Cause Inflation is real. Higher costing parts made more expensively by minerals wars coming up. 8 inch LCD 120hz is new sweet spot for tablets as well. So I think Nintendo will do this.

 

[Tarin02543]

HDR on a LCD screen....lol.

I read that switch 2 would not have HDR due to the disastrous number of standards and the fact that HDR still is a niche for most consumers

 

[Fortress of Regrets]

LCD is disgusting. Completely nullifies HDR, like on cheap monitors and cheap TVs.

I can wait for an OLED version.

 

[Dr.D00p]

I read that switch 2 would not have HDR due to the disastrous number of standards and the fact that HDR still is a niche for most consumers

HDR requires at least 1000 nits brightness, at least proper HDR does. You won't find any LCD screen out there with more than 450 -500 nits and they're only typically found on top end gaming laptops of a few years ago, nearly all of which have now transitioned to OLED

Technically it could be some kind of HDR, just not the good kind, I suppose. Which, you can argue, would be good enough for a $400+ handheld.

 

[Minsc]

HDR requires at least 1000 nits brightness, at least proper HDR does. You won't find any LCD screen out there with more than 450 -500 nits and they're only typically found on top end gaming laptops of a few years ago, nearly all of which have now transitioned to OLED

Technically it could be some kind of HDR, just not the good kind, I suppose. Which, you can argue, would be good enough for a $400+ handheld.

I ended up using the LCD Switch as a docked machine and the OLED one as a portable, it will probably be the same this time around as well.

Launch Switch 2 will be docked to an OLED TV, so you get beautiful OLED HDR on Nintendo's 1st party, and revision Switch 2 with OLED screen will be the handheld one.

 

[McRazzle]

HDR requires at least 1000 nits brightness, at least proper HDR does. You won't find any LCD screen out there with more than 450 -500 nits and they're only typically found on top end gaming laptops of a few years ago, nearly all of which have now transitioned to OLED

Technically it could be some kind of HDR, just not the good kind, I suppose. Which, you can argue, would be good enough for a $400+ handheld.

IGZO displays allow twice the amount of light through than standard LCD panels;
HDR could be possible, also the 1080p resolution should appear to be 2K as a result

 

[Minsc]

IGZO displays allow twice the amount of light through than standard LCD panels;
HDR could be possible, also the 1080p resolution should appear to be 2K as a result

The other issue is trying to match OLEDs 2-8 million lighting zones with a couple hundred or thousand.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

120hz? Wow. Welcome to 2010 Nintendo!

 

[Tarin02543]

120hz? Wow. Welcome to 2010 Nintendo!

Which 2010 handheld did 120 hz?

 

[vodka-bull]

Well I‘m a patient gamer, I have plenty of games to play until Switch 2 OLED arrives…

 

[nordique]

This would be amazing news if true.

Just over a week till we find out

 

[Minsc]

Which 2010 handheld did 120 hz?

Even if you extend this to mobile phones, the answer is still none I think. If you generously extend it to laptops, I'm sure you'll find a bunch of gaming laptops that did.

 

[Kururi]

Why does GAF have such a hate boner for Nintendo?

Nintendo made a SHITTON of money with Switch 1. Why wouldn't they use that money to build a more powerful, more future proof product that will still be competent 5-6 years out?

And don't forget, this is a NEW Nintendo, with new leadership and forward thinking.

The Sony and xbox boys wants Nintendo to go thirdparty for a long time now. Back in the Switch 1 launch days it was a bloodbath here.