Kacho
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For American studios, sure
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Warner Bros. Games is shutting down Monolith Productions, Player First Games, WB San Diego. Wonder Woman game has been cancelled
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Chuck Berry
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That's what happens if you buy talented studios and put them on generic projects rather than let them do what they're good at.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
WB is just a cancer lol
nowhat
Member
Uhh no, it's worse. It's patented. Meaning, even if you were to come up with an original implementation of the concept (which is not that hard to do, the concept is very basic), you can't because (thank you US IP laws!) such mere concepts can be patented. Incidentally, this is why you couldn't have loading screen minigames in ages. Because patents.
The Loading Screen Game Patent Finally Expires
In 1998, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office issued Patent 5,718,632, on a method for avoiding “unnecessary wastage of time” in video games. What’s transpired in the 17 years since then can best be described as an unnecessary wastage of time. Namco’s patent covers “auxiliary games” that a player...
(Yeah, the article is from 2015 - the patent was in effect for 17 years. Yay for innovation!)
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MMaRsu
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Hate to say it, but when your last game didn't do the hottest (Shadow of War wasn't a bomb, but it didn't set the charts on fire) and you haven't shipped anything in most of 8 years, that's what'll happen.
Gaming is a high risk industry. I hope that the developer apparatus is being reminded of that with all these shutdowns and layoffs, because they've been running on cruise control collecting a paycheck for too long.
LectureMaster
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Interfectum
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MMaRsu
Member
Huh? Which games are Gta style
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Look at post 36, supposedly they already sank $100M into this game and it was still years away from release. They should’ve canceled this shit years ago.
Magic Carpet
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I've got an old cdrom that was packaged with Shogo on one side and Septerra Core on the other.
Those are some old games.
Those are some old games.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Maybe when we talk about Monolithsoft people will stop confusing it with Monolith.
SEGAvangelist
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I like quality games. Classics like NiGHTS into dreams..., the Panzer Dragoon series, Virtua Fighter, Daytona USA, Phantasy Star Online, and Jet Set Radio Future. Excuse me for having taste. Have you tried SEGA games?
Grildon Tundy
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This sucks! I started replaying Shadow of War like 3 days ago, and it's still awesome. I was actually debating making an RTTP thread about it because it's a rare game that totally nails the Halo "30 seconds of fun" gameplay loop, and I've been having a blast with it.
Rip Monolith.
Rip Monolith.
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Danjin44
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SEGAvangelist
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Yeah, we really aren't missing on out anything... unless Wonder Woman was going to be really hot. Then, it's sad.
Angry_Megalodon
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WB is a disaster and Rocksteady is next on the chopping block. Sony would be incredibly stupid if they paid anything for that new Batman game.
nowhat
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Edit: that's not the reaction/intent that I was going for, but if you like it
SEGAvangelist
then you do you.
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skit_data
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Sad to see Monolith Productions getting shut down.
I haven't played any of their later games but AvP2 was pretty much my first experience with online multiplayer. Getting a clean headshot in multiplayer fps games is good but nothing really tops obliterating a marine by pouncing across the Compound map as a Xenomorph.
I just now realized they also made the F.E.A.R games. I never played those but in recent years I've thought about that IP from time to time wondering why those series just vanished. Feels like the IP had potential to get bigger and more influential than it ended up being, sorta.
I haven't played any of their later games but AvP2 was pretty much my first experience with online multiplayer. Getting a clean headshot in multiplayer fps games is good but nothing really tops obliterating a marine by pouncing across the Compound map as a Xenomorph.
I just now realized they also made the F.E.A.R games. I never played those but in recent years I've thought about that IP from time to time wondering why those series just vanished. Feels like the IP had potential to get bigger and more influential than it ended up being, sorta.
Angry_Megalodon
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I was looking forward to being preached on my privileges by Diana while she fought the non-Elon Musk super villain.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Because the devs are responsible for what management forces them to work on? FFS this is a shitty way to look at things and a totally ignorant way to look at what people actually do at their jobs. Most people have very little say in what they do and have to do stupid shit mandated by morons. At best this is a failure of a few leads pitching shitty projects that failed, but at worst it is upper leadership demanding something like GaaS shit that they later reversed course on after so many high profile failures. But yeah, blame the little guy and wish them joblessness and all that that entails.
WB is kind of stupid here. They should be looking at ways to get some of these people to work on cranking out Harry Potter games. The last game was so successful and good they should be trying to get more of the RPGs out quickly and getting other genres out to capitalize on the success of Hogwarts Legacy and the hype around the new series.
ReBurn
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I wonder if this is the same person
Helping the Game Industry Face Itself | KQED
A new study finds what we've known for a while now: the video game industry is sexist.
nial
Member
I thought it did pretty well?
#1 best-selling game in the US in October 2017
October 2017 NPD: Middle-earth: Shadow of War emerges with the One Ring (of top sales)
Middle-earth and ancient Egypt were popular destinations last month as Monolith Productions’ Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Ubisoft’s Assassin’s Creed: Origins reached No. 1 and 2 respectively on the best sellers chart. However, video game spending overall was down 11 percent year-over-year...
venturebeat.com
Rocinante618
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Not really surprising, no publishers/business is going to fund a studio for 8 years?! without any output/revenue/profits. Rocksteady at least did release something, while it flopped, it still made something back and showed promise that they can at least make AAA games and release them.
Such a shame though, Monolith used to be OpenAI of video games two decades ago.
Such a shame though, Monolith used to be OpenAI of video games two decades ago.
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Chuck Berry
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I wonder if this is the same person
Helping the Game Industry Face Itself | KQED
A new study finds what we've known for a while now: the video game industry is sexist.www.kqed.org
Oh jesus fucking christ
Looks like it lol
The "y'all" is always a dead giveaway.
Take that "delightfully brash" attitude and
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semiconscious
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what many of these 'studio shutting down' threads have in common (along with yesterday's molyneux thread): the repeated comment 'they were great'...
so much a part of the initial strength & success of these studios was pure & simple the team chemistry - a unique jamming together of talents & skills, & the ability to share a vision & see it through to completion in reality. it's sorta like sports fans remembering back to that golden period when their team was great. sadly, this's just the way with these things. we weren't built to stay young & enthusiastic & imaginative forever, either individually or as a team (which's even trickier. much trickier). which's why they say 'all good thing...'
so much a part of the initial strength & success of these studios was pure & simple the team chemistry - a unique jamming together of talents & skills, & the ability to share a vision & see it through to completion in reality. it's sorta like sports fans remembering back to that golden period when their team was great. sadly, this's just the way with these things. we weren't built to stay young & enthusiastic & imaginative forever, either individually or as a team (which's even trickier. much trickier). which's why they say 'all good thing...'
Grildon Tundy
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I bet it is. That's wild; how'd you find that?I wonder if this is the same person
Helping the Game Industry Face Itself | KQED
A new study finds what we've known for a while now: the video game industry is sexist.
P:axMagellanic
Member
Oh jesus fucking christ
Looks like it lol
The "y'all" is always a dead giveaway.
Take that "delightfully brash" attitude and
'Where is Allaway headed? She plans to join the game industry after graduation, perhaps using her sociological superpowers to improve community management and game design. “A video game-oriented sociologist would be tasked with understanding who gamers are, why they play, how various factors (gender, race, socioeconomic background, etc.) affect how and why and what they play. They’re also acutely aware of the struggles each of these groups face and take them into consideration when it comes to game design. Socially aware designers are more likely to make deeper, more creative stories and game content, rather than relying on lazy tropes and stereotypes.”
Laptop1991
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Sad about Monolith as i love FEAR 1, and the first Middle Earth game Shadow of Mordor was good as well, but that was over 10 years ago now and you have to go back to before 2005 when they were at their most prolific games releases, they haven't done much in recent years, these studios are not being managed right by Warner Bros
Angry_Megalodon
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I wonder if this is the same person
Helping the Game Industry Face Itself | KQED
A new study finds what we've known for a while now: the video game industry is sexist.
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Where is Allaway headed? She plans to join the game industry after graduation, perhaps using her sociological superpowers to improve community management and game design. “A video game-oriented sociologist would be tasked with understanding who gamers are, why they play, how various factors (gender, race, socioeconomic background, etc.) affect how and why and what they play. They’re also acutely aware of the struggles each of these groups face and take them into consideration when it comes to game design. Socially aware designers are more likely to make deeper, more creative stories and game content, rather than relying on lazy tropes and stereotypes.”
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Yeah, good riddance.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Gotta love it when you have some unqualified DEI hire preaching about how horribly racist and sexist the world is.Oh jesus fucking christ
Looks like it lol
The "y'all" is always a dead giveaway.
Take that "delightfully brash" attitude and
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
This is why I don't feel too bad about most industry layoffs over the past year or so. Seems like a lot of them are purging this trash.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
FeralEcho
Member
RIP Monolith. Hope all you guys land on your feet.
Another legendary studio destroyed by one of the dumbest,shittiest publishers in the current landscape of gaming.
But at least there's one silver lining...since it's almost that time WB...almost time for us to finally dance on your shitty grave for all the studios you've ruined with all these asinine and downright retarded business decisions you've made throughout these past 7 years.
Tick-tock tick-tock WB! Bankrupcy comes a knocking!
Another legendary studio destroyed by one of the dumbest,shittiest publishers in the current landscape of gaming.
But at least there's one silver lining...since it's almost that time WB...almost time for us to finally dance on your shitty grave for all the studios you've ruined with all these asinine and downright retarded business decisions you've made throughout these past 7 years.
Tick-tock tick-tock WB! Bankrupcy comes a knocking!
Saber
Member
Of course is speculation LOL
But one has to wonder if this was a case of going after stupid GaaS trends.
RCX
Member
Isn't the entire idea locked behind a patent owned by WB though?
March Climber
Member
If WB’s gaming division is going to simply implode, then I think it’s time for them to let other companies take advantage of their I.P. again.
Let Capcom make a new vs game or something.
Let Capcom make a new vs game or something.
Ivan
Member
I wonder what are some of those devs working on today...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Posted already?
WB statement on the matter
WB statement on the matter
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't know why they mention Mortal Kombat when the best one was MK9?
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
James Gunn is supposedly making calls.If WB’s gaming division is going to simply implode, then I think it’s time for them to let other companies take advantage of their I.P. again.
Let Capcom make a new vs game or something.