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[Windows Central]Xbox is closing out 2024 with a ton of momentum, and plenty of cause for optimism:COD, record engagement, and Xbox Game Pass success
Mr Moose
Member
I hope that shit isn't true.
It's like Sony getting trolled into re-showing Morbius. No one really wants it.
Astray
Member
You mean Hellblade II to PS5?I hope that shit isn't true.
It's like Sony getting trolled into re-showing Morbius. No one really wants it.
I don't really care, I just posted it here for the dunk on Jez lol.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
Well, one is feelings, the other is hard fact numbers
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Horseganador
Member
You read Jez Corden's article... and then hours later you read the interview with Phil Spencer and you have to laugh really hard, what a parallel reality the guy lives in.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
It really is shit on PC. Heroic Launcher manages to bring 3 different stores together seamlessly, works perfectly with a controller. Gamepass PC app does neither.
IllegalLemon
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Kerotan
Member
It's just the PR they always pay for. Unlimited good news for Xbox.
midnightAI
Member
Jeez, I only saw part of the title on mobile and it just said '[Windows Central]Xbox is closing'
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Understandable, but I’m not convinced of anything they’re doing. We haven’t seen much of Fable, and I’m definitely not in the target audience, but nothing they have shown looks above mid.
This isn’t just a Microsoft thing, but they’re definitely included. I can think of almost no upcoming game with anything significant shown off that doesn’t seem tired and/or mediocre.
Nydius
Member
"Record engagement" but hardware sales are in still in freefall. Jez claims they have "significant increases" in Game Pass subscriptions and yet I haven't heard Microsoft themselves say anything of the sort. Even if that is the case, how many of those subscriptions are short-term, one month, sub-and-done people who decided they'd just spend $20 to play Black Ops 6 rather than spending $70 to buy it outright? I can only assume there's quite a few.
Engagement means jack shit. They spent billions to buy COD and cannibalized all of its sales on their own primary platform by putting it on Game Pass. The "highest number" of players in the Asian market doesn't mean shit when it's still massively dwarfed by the number of players on competing platforms. New hardware? That no one cares about? Hell, the two stores in my town that carry electronics won't even carry Xbox hardware anymore because it doesn't sell. The Walmart in town has a sign on the two meager Xbox shelves saying hardware is available online.
I'm only interested in seeing how Indiana Jones turns out. Avowed looks increasingly like ass. I have no faith in Fable. The rest of their studios are in shambles. COD is carrying the Xbox brand on its shoulders.... thanks to PlayStation game sales.
Engagement means jack shit. They spent billions to buy COD and cannibalized all of its sales on their own primary platform by putting it on Game Pass. The "highest number" of players in the Asian market doesn't mean shit when it's still massively dwarfed by the number of players on competing platforms. New hardware? That no one cares about? Hell, the two stores in my town that carry electronics won't even carry Xbox hardware anymore because it doesn't sell. The Walmart in town has a sign on the two meager Xbox shelves saying hardware is available online.
I'm only interested in seeing how Indiana Jones turns out. Avowed looks increasingly like ass. I have no faith in Fable. The rest of their studios are in shambles. COD is carrying the Xbox brand on its shoulders.... thanks to PlayStation game sales.
mayham2199
Member
I think Stalker 2 looks good. That's about it though. I also heard Indy is more stealth oriented though and I actually do like that. We get such few stealth games these days.
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GymWolf
Member
The graphic definitely looks high level.
playbignbox
Member
The game had nothing to do with MS until Activision was acquired... From that moment on, I believe that MS is responsible if the game is a success or failure.Except it has absolutely nothing to do with Microsoft, they count CoD since they bought Activision. Everything that made CoD the success it is has nothing to do with Microsoft. If anything - previous experience shows Microsoft is a poison to any talent. They went on a buying spree because they are incapable of nurturing and growing the talent inside the company. Guess what, now all these companies that they bought are inside Microsoft...
And I believe many gamers think so, as most critics of games like Redfall or Starfield criticized MS. Following your logic, if the success of a game like CoD cannot be attributed to MS because it already existed before the acquisition, neither could the failure of a game like Starfield Redfall, since MS's involvement with the game was very short and the studio had been working on it for a long time.
AW_CL
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
ap_puff
Member
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Momentum and optimism for what?
Insanemaelstrom
Member
Honestly give more respect to timdog than this clowns. Just constant spinning
GHG
Member
Timdog was the real insider all along.
He told everyone what the situation was behind the scenes long before it was made public.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Interesting and valid point.
Won't work here though.
On another point and to the user who posted it.
We really need to stop posting cunt Eastwood. It's not healthy to read that guys psychotic thought dumps. They are not based in any form of reality.
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nowhat
Gold Member
I dunno, I find him weirdly entertaining. I mean, I don't follow him on Twitter (or "X" as Musk would want us to call it), I don't do Twitter in general. But his takes are just so out there that I can feel "welp, maybe I'm not a complete derp after all".
Astray
Member
His Microsoft contacts are basically trolling him 24/7.
It's like every other day he has to come out and defend his shitty "scoops".
Astray
Member
He makes a living through the access he's granted by Microsoft. He probably already realized it and even hates it, but he can't just back down now he's in too deep.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Indeed.
I don't know man... In reality It's impossible to not have "momentum" with a 70B investment and wildly successful service games like BLOPS6 and Flight Sim under their wings.
It no longer make much sense to look at "Xbox" network/services and Xbox console system hardware as the same thing.
In some ways there are similarities in Playstation, who's also making a push into multiplatform services.
Difference in the end is trends, and weights and balances.
Sorry, but so far all we've seen from their 70B investment is a few products that didn't live up to expectations and some of the biggest layoffs in the gaming industry.
And also the death and closure of several studios.
As for СOD, it breaks sales records every year, this was before the purchase of Microsoft, so it would have shown absolutely the same figures without Microsoft's participation. Although we see in Europe (In any case, it is better to wait for the full figures, I think we will have to wait another 2-3 weeks). But in the same UK, we see that Microsoft has actually killed game sales.
PS5: 257,000 (70%)
PC: 59,000 (16%)
Xbox: 37,000 (10%)
PS4: 15,000 (4%)
At the same time, the game sells much better on the competitor's console. As for subscriptions, it is better to wait for quarterly reports, since the user movement in them is in waves and a slice for 1 month does not show anything. Because yes, now due to the release of СOD the number of users has increased, but how many people will renew their subscription after they finish playing COD, only God knows. Now it is very common to buy an Xbox subscription in order to play a game and not pay the full price for it and then not renew the subscription.
Flight Sim - I love this thing, I'm waiting, I will play. But this is a niche product for enthusiasts, it hardly somehow influences the market as a whole.
Team Andromeda
Member
Looking over what the trolls with say and the silly stuff from Jez.
It is a great end to the year for Xbox and Gampass and it should be a great early start to next year with Avowed (gutted it not out for Christmas mind)
It is a great end to the year for Xbox and Gampass and it should be a great early start to next year with Avowed (gutted it not out for Christmas mind)
Peroroncino
Member
dude's only trying to keep himself relevant, it's a bit pathetic but understandable.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah, but I just feel that half the posts that are shared are so bad that it correctly so, just drives insults etc...but then what can happen is the conversation just moves away from the thread into derailed posts. Luckily we don't have a mess of all these lunatics, Jizz, Red Dragon, and many more being posted all the time.
I get you though. Lets you know you arent that FAR gone lol.
midnightAI
Member
Hah, Colt
..... On the other hand that would be a seriously clever move and would massively increase game sales, and if some Nintendo games go the other way?
Sony&Nintendo Vs Xbox&PC, fight!
IllegalLemon
Member
Look I don't hate Xbox, but Jez in particular has gotten very predictable. It's almost as if you already know what his next media piece is going to be, even before he publishes the thing for the world to see. He tries to sway the court of public opinion the other direction to try to get people to relax their criticisms a bit and immediately following that, a Microsoft exec or spokesperson comes and completely kills any and every positive impact that article might've had.
· Jez makes a point about Xbox starting the next gen earlier with a handheld being part of the pipeline. Phil comes out and says that it's still prototyping and years away(putting a dent in the 2026 new gen rumours).
· Jez talks about record gamepass growth thanks to Black Ops 6. In the Bloomberg interview Phil doesn't mention anything even once, although if that was the case they'd be screaming it from the rooftops like they always do, and yet... Dead silence
· Jez talks about growth in the user base for Xbox.
Surprise, surprise, sales are still stuck in the mid 20 millions (around 26 million last I checked), where's the growth, why can't I see it.
· Jez talks about massive growth in the Asian markets. Adoption in Asian markets is abysmal and slow. In 4 years, they've sold close to 700k Series consoles. In contrast, their main competitor has shifted close to 7 million hardware units across the entirety of Asia making their effort and growth look comically tiny.
Jez is like a curse at this point, dude's a walking, talking contradiction in all honesty. For every negative piece he has to do damage control to try to reduce the impact while huffing the strongest type of copium imaginable. I want to hold out hope for team Green, but they're not giving me valid reasons to do so. Phil's getting more honest and upfront instead of being dodgy with questions, so that's a breath of fresh air for execs to be honest.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
My man Jez couldn’t even be optimistic for 48 hours after writing this article
Even he doesn’t believe his own words lmao
bender
What time is it?
Humdinger
Gold Member
I actually thought he sounded fairly sane and reasonable in that recent video. I was surprised.
edit: except for the comment about Hellblade II being a "blockbuster."
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Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
They certainly have momentum. Not sure it's the direction they are trying to go, though.
Angry_Megalodon
Banned
Damn, XBOX is back, guys. This is an XBOX.