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Demon's Souls Remake is an artistic disaster

bitbydeath

Member
It's not a preference, it has been analyzed, discussed and documented multiple times how the new art made the story telling nonsensical, if not contradictory, you're just uneducated. Watch the video if you don't want to be uneducated, i'm not gonna make a text wall, but i think you're satisfied with nice explosions instead.
Or, you’re simply not understanding how the enhancements complement the OG.

Souls games aren’t filled with explosions FYI.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
think you just prefer simple art over detailed art.
Its not that simple....

I mean what the fuck is this?
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Since when fat Officials became monsters who suffering from skin disease? This no longer about adding more "detail" rather completely changing the artstyle to be more ugly and gross.
 
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bitbydeath

Member
Its not that simple....

I mean what the fuck is this?
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Since when fat Officials became monsters who suffering from skin disease? This no longer about adding more "detail" rather completely changing the artstyle to be more ugly and gross.
They’re both ugly and gross for different reasons. The first looks like a burn victim as his skin looks heavily grafted.
 

mopspear

Member

This is a very, very good way to reply to something with a gif. I laughed really hard at this. I encourage the rest of you to post gifs like this! The very idea of such a slap for a forum post. Oh man... it really hits my funny bone because of the absurdity of it all.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
Then just play the old PS3 Version...
You can say that to games like RE4 and FFVII, if you dont like remake you play the original because they are available EVERYWHERE.

Thats not true for Demon's Souls....if you no longer own PS3 or it broke down you have no way of playing original game.
 
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FoxMcChief

Gold Member
You can say that to games like RE4 and FFVII, if you dont like remake you play the original because they are available EVERYWHERE.

Thats not true for Demon's Souls....if you no longer own PS3 or it broke down you have no way of playing original game.
Sounds like your beef should be with Sony and their approach to BC.
 

A2una1

Member
You can say that to games like RE4 and FFVII, if you dont like remake you play the original because they are available EVERYWHERE.

Thats not true for Demon's Souls....if you no longer own PS3 or it broke down you have no way of playing original game.
So? I mean clearly the differences between the two versions seems enough to raise some bullshit drama. So it should be enough to get a ps3 and replay the old version. Or don't play it at all. Or emulate it..
 

R6Rider

Gold Member
Its not that simple....

I mean what the fuck is this?
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Since when fat Officials became monsters who suffering from skin disease? This no longer about adding more "detail" rather completely changing the artstyle to be more ugly and gross.
It's not completely changing the art style. One simply has no mask and skin showing. There is basically ZERO lore on these guys so who knows what the original "intent" was. Even then their location and placement and design never fit in anyway compared to others.

Same hat style, same puff collar thing, same open/unbuttoned lower section of jacket, both with a belt, both with the little hook and keys from belt, both with the long gloves, same upper chest vest strap/harness.

This is one of the few commonly thrown around images too. From the entire game the same handful of images get used.

Nobody likes to compare the MUCH improved environmental elements and lighting.
 
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Ebrietas

Member
Its not that simple....

I mean what the fuck is this?
OoenZeJ.png


Since when fat Officials became monsters who suffering from skin disease? This no longer about adding more "detail" rather completely changing the artstyle to be more ugly and gross.

You can selectively zoom in on some characters' faces or small details here and there. But overall, when actually playing the game, the remake has the same vibe as the original, but with far superior quality.
 
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The funniest thing about fromsoftware fanboys is how they scream 'Bluepoint ruined the lore with artstyle change'. What lore!!!! Describe to me in detail the lore of this game, because what story is their is non coherent dribble that sucks!!!!!
 

Thief1987

Member
The funniest thing about fromsoftware fanboys is how they scream 'Bluepoint ruined the lore with artstyle change'. What lore!!!! Describe to me in detail the lore of this game, because what story is their is non coherent dribble that sucks!!!!!
That's the best part of this idiocy, that beside some fanfics there never was any lore lol
 
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MMaRsu

Member
The funniest thing about fromsoftware fanboys is how they scream 'Bluepoint ruined the lore with artstyle change'. What lore!!!! Describe to me in detail the lore of this game, because what story is their is non coherent dribble that sucks!!!!!
Lmao if you dont want to bother to find out, the game isnt gonna spell it out for you. Plenty of lore videos.

HurtDurrr there's no cutscenes so theres no story hurrdurr
 
Lmao if you dont want to bother to find out, the game isnt gonna spell it out for you. Plenty of lore videos.

HurtDurrr there's no cutscenes so theres no story hurrdurr

If you have to watch a video to explain your games lore then your game sucks at telling a story. And the fact that you can't even explain it to me just proves my point.
 

MMaRsu

Member
If you have to watch a video to explain your games lore then your game sucks at telling a story. And the fact that you can't even explain it to me just proves my point.
Ah so you're a clueless simpleton then, I see 🤡😂

"You mean I have to READ to grasp a story"

Bad game! 😂💀💀💀

I don't feel the need to explain it to an obvious troll like yourself, I could, but I won't.
 
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Ah so you're a clueless simpleton then, I see 🤡😂

And you're a fromsoftware simp who slurps up everything they give to you and just accepts it as great. You're the type of fan who thinks their games are higher artforms that are too intricate and detailed in their lore and story for lesser beings to understand, when in reality the lore and story sucks ass.

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MMaRsu

Member
And you're a fromsoftware simp who slurps up everything they give to you and just accepts it as great. You're the type of fan who thinks their games are higher artforms that are too intricate and detailed in their lore and story for lesser beings to understand, when in reality the lore and story sucks ass.
Lmaaao I can taste the rage tears through the screen! Delicious rage tears 😂 because you're too stupid to grasp a simple story you're so mad you can't enjoy it


type set GIF
 
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R6Rider

Gold Member
Lmao if you dont want to bother to find out, the game isnt gonna spell it out for you. Plenty of lore videos.

HurtDurrr there's no cutscenes so theres no story hurrdurr
Demon's Souls has the least lore of the Soulsborne games. With random droplets for various characters not expanded upon beyond their descriptions.

EVERYTHING else is simply assumptions based on the meager bits of info and environments.
 
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MMaRsu

Member
Demon's Souls has the least lore of the Soulsborne games. With random droplets for various characters not expanded upon beyond their descriptions.

EVERYTHING else is simply assumptions based on the meager bits of info and environments.
Well I never said anything about any of it being good or expansive. The guy asked what the story was, and I posted a link. Then he went rage on me 😂
 

Spiral1407

Member
Meh, I don't like some of the changes they made too, but acting like it's a crime against humanity is doing too much.

Gameplay is king at the end of the day and it remained unchanged in remake. Hell, it's arguably improved considering it's now a locked 60fps. And you can always emulate the OG if it isn't to your liking.
 

AgatonSax

Member
I love Demon’s Souls and have played and finished it many times on PS3. I just ran out of energy with the remake though. It’s a terrific remake, but somehow intangibly I just couldn’t recapture the weird atmosphere of the original.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
If you think these screens have a substantially different vibe from the original, then you haven't played the original.

The second one literally has the same shot from the ps3 game next to it. But maybe you didn't notice.
I played both PS3 version and the Remake I still disagree about having same vibe, especially Tower of Latria.

In the remake just way overly bright compare to the original and the sound design in remake just kill entire atmosphere of that area.
 

MMaRsu

Member
You've specifically called him stupid and a simpleton (among other things) in recent responses.

A bit much.
I mean he was obviously trolling. None of the Souls games spell out their story for you, but to pretend there is none, or that it's bad because the game doesn't spell it out for you, does make you seem like a simpleton.

If you want to actually critique a game that is.
 
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MMaRsu

Member
If you think these screens have a substantially different vibe from the original, then you haven't played the original.

The second one literally has the same shot from the ps3 game next to it. But maybe you didn't notice.
I had this discussion in the last topic that I created about this game having a shit art direction lmao.

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Ofcourse I played the OG

And there's just one screenshot of OG demon souls in there so I just didn't understand your 'comparison' post

And personally even just the changed sounds etc are enough of a demake



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But I already made this point in the last 6 page thread we had on the subject :D
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
One of the things made me attracted to FROM's games was their artstyle even back in Armored Core games and I'm type of person who values art direction over high tech graphics.

I dont care if everyone disagrees with me but I really HATED remake artstyle.....I hope one day Sony bring original PS3 version to PS5.
 

brenobnfm

Member
I had this discussion in the last topic that I created about this game having a shit art direction lmao.

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Ofcourse I played the OG

And there's just one screenshot of OG demon souls in there so I just didn't understand your 'comparison' post

And personally even just the changed sounds etc are enough of a demake



vs



But I already made this point in the last 6 page thread we had on the subject :D


Damn even the voice acting in the OG emanates that eerie atmosphere, the nexus theme, it's just on another level. The remake is great looking but at the same time forgettable, sterile and disposable, sooner or later similar games with better graphics will release and it loses its only reason to exist.
 

kevboard

Member
on one hand I understand why people dislike the remake's changes...

on the other hand I have no respect for any opinion coming from someone who thinks Dark Souls 2 is better than 3
 

RafterXL

Member
You can selectively zoom in on some characters' faces or small details here and there. But overall, when actually playing the game, the remake has the same vibe as the original, but with far superior quality.
I love the remake, but it doesn't have remotely the same vibe as the original. They have the same setting, characters, and gameplay, but the vibes are very different. The music, the art, the colors all give the game different vibes. And while the game is "superior" from a technical standpoint, I don't think that's true from an artistic standpoint.

None of this would matter if Sony would get off their ass and emulate PS3 games on their new system.
 

Danjin44

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I love the remake, but it doesn't have remotely the same vibe as the original. They have the same setting, characters, and gameplay, but the vibes are very different. The music, the art, the colors all give the game different vibes. And while the game is "superior" from a technical standpoint, I don't think that's true from an artistic standpoint.

None of this would matter if Sony would get off their ass and emulate PS3 games on their new system.
This, this people are free to prefer Remake artsyle over the original game, thats their taste but saying the remake had same vibe as original PS3 release is objectively untrue.
 

Noctis0Caelum

Neo Member
I had this discussion in the last topic that I created about this game having a shit art direction lmao.

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Ofcourse I played the OG

And there's just one screenshot of OG demon souls in there so I just didn't understand your 'comparison' post

And personally even just the changed sounds etc are enough of a demake



vs



But I already made this point in the last 6 page thread we had on the subject :D

^This
I was sooo disappointed that the erie sound in tower of latria in the remake are not presented there anymore. All the good enviroment sounds were gone.The new magic soundeffect are cool but dont really fit into that setting and artstyle.
Also the music itself was also such a bummer and letdown.

Only the graphics are top but yeah the dangerous, oppressive atmosphere are gone.Feels like a normal game to me almost.
 
Lmao if you dont want to bother to find out, the game isnt gonna spell it out for you. Plenty of lore videos.

HurtDurrr there's no cutscenes so theres no story hurrdurr

HurtDurrr I'm so cool I like the usual FROM cryptic bullshit for teh cool kiddies !

Remember boys, the FROM drip fed "lore" via items descriptions which was always due to budget/monetary restraints (much like the characters that speak without any mouth animations whatsoever) and is a relic from the KF games is apparently all the rage nowadays !

Sorry but FROM must be laughing all the way to the bank - they were lucky enough as to find this very specific niche in which they can hide their laziness and budget restraints even though they've been swimming in money after DES and the Bamco thing (publishing)...
Their game have been doing the same thing for aeons, this bullshit has been going on since the KF and AC days on the PSX/PS2, assets reuse upon asset reuse, recycling ahoy, cryptic lore (bUT iTs on PuRPosE !), characters that speak with closed mouths (LMAO), no cutscenes in sight after the initial intro (animating things is too hard !) and so on so forth...and yet, people are still defending this bullshit for some weird reason.

Fuck, I love FROM but Goddamn if their fanbase isn't one of the most obnoxious, pretentious ones in all gamedom, the circle jerk is just too stronK.
 
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