killatopak
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I know. How many did the site see people owning DAI in the same time span should be the comparison.
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Dragon Age: Veilguard releases with over 70k concurrent players on Steam and 'Mixed Reviews'
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Loboxxx
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I think this time there is a mix between fans of the classic Dragon Ages, who don't want this Batman Arkham approach or this Disney adventure tone, and those who are fed up with the forced and uncomfortable inclusion (call it woke if you want), which is very present in this case.
It's a shame, because the game is very good, but they made some bad decisions.
It's a shame, because the game is very good, but they made some bad decisions.
BehemothBlade
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The peak was 89K on Sunday.
To estimate whether this is a success or a failure, we need to know the budget of the game.
To estimate whether this is a success or a failure, we need to know the budget of the game.
clarky
Gold Member
It had no preload, thats why it started low and increased the way it did.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Meanwhile, an actual good game with 0 marketing:
And has been out forever
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Why did era abandon their Veilguard CCU thread???
They gloated and did their victory dance in the first few hours of Steam debut, but it's all quiet now
Even if it somehow did crawl past the 100K mark ... how is that still not a disaster?
Ass of Can Whooping
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Those sites are worthless for gauging sales.
pasterpl
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To be honest achievement tracking websites are quite useless.
GHG
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Can you read or not?
pasterpl
Member
Yes I can read, but I wasn’t me who said that that person looks like a clown. Now you say it is not looks that bother people, which is obviously not 100% correct (look sentence before) but I still do not understand wha it is so triggering about wanting to bring Indiana Jones story to modern audiences?
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GHG
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So you're pretending to not know what "modern audiences" in this context means?
BehemothBlade
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Okay so apparently the budget is 250 million. The estimate is not too off because it was in production for 9 years and has been rebooted twice.
That means it has to sell at least 5 million to break even, more if you consider 3rd party fees.
That means it has to sell at least 5 million to break even, more if you consider 3rd party fees.
MMaRsu
Member
Really? 80k concurrent is a success?
Only a couple hundred million dollars in the red. Great success by 2024 standards!
pudel
Member
No, its definitely not...but 90k is also too much imho. The message "fuck off with your woke shit in videogames" doesnt come through very well.
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
And the sales total.
If we pick REmake 4, it got 190k players peak, which sounds ok-ish, but it sold eight million and Capcom is doing really fine nowadays... Except for DRDR, because that was bullshit and needs to be trowed at the sun
Thyuda
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You can bet your ass they hoped for Baldur's Gate level of success, especially EA. Not even 90k ccu on Steam for the new Dragon Age game is by every metric consievable very close do a disaster.
At least it's technically sound, so if Bioware changes the writers, there's actually hope for Mass Effect.
Ceadeus
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Lunarorbit
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It depends how you look at them. Psnprofiles has SH2 at 15,000 players with veilguard only at 2700.
Now obviously these are opt in services but veilguard having a 1/5 of the players is pretty bad.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
The only way to look at it is trophy hunters don't care for it. That's it. As far as sales estimations, it's worthless.
If we're to put any credence towards those sites, that means its selling 4x more on Xbox than PS. Which we all know is bullshit.
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PeteBull
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They are very wrong, who buys 70$ western rpgs at launch? Not "modern audience", not women, and thats who devteam made this game for.
Ofc game has terrible sales vs games that were made for ppl who buy 70$ games at launch- us, straight males/core gaming audience
Btw, so often mentioned "modern audience" aka woke liberals/professional journos dont pay for games, they are like that unicorn 6'4 blue eyed young, fit, handsome and charismatic multimilionaire- women know there is few of them out there but what they fail to realise is such a high quality guy got abudance mindset, he will never commit to only one female
PeteBull
Member
We know tons:
Dragon Age: The Veilguard - Wikipedia
So over 9 years of devtime for AAA huge IP(one of the biggest western rpg), its easily 200m usd, likely way more.
And here we even got article from our beloved woke libtard journo, Jason Sshreier where he describes how important this game was:
New ‘Dragon Age’ Game Faced Turbulent Development
The studio head of EA’s BioWare says ‘Dragon Age: The Veilguard’ received nothing but support from EA throughout its lengthy production cycle
www.bloomberg.com
And one last quote, confirming how bad the game actually is, in his eyes, despite fake praise:
Just like many of us said, game is of low quality simply
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Guilty_AI
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Just the highest ccu on steam, he is not accounting for all the years EA hasn't released games there or the times steam didn't account for such a huge portion of the sales. Nor the fact most of their other titles require EA third party launcher, which may lead people to buy the game outside steam or not buy it at all.
tkscz
Member
You can't see this as a person outside of EA. A video game this big that took four years to develop from a AAA studio would easily cost $100M or more just to develop. This does not include the cost of publishing or the amount of money taken from digital and physical store fronts per unit. This game would need millions of players buying the game before the price drop. Now we don't know console numbers, but these steam numbers are abysmal.
PeteBull
Member
Game dev took 9 years, starded in 2015.
asariN7
Member
I was willing to put aside the woke shit since I was a Bioware fan back in the day but that's the least of their problems.
The art style looks disgusting, like something way worse that what Mihoyo would put out.
The gameplay seems so boring and generic, even asscreed looks more fun than this.
Aaand the writing is so juvenile, like they hired some tumblr users that used to write fanfics about Gossip Girl.
The woke shit only made this problems more apparent and I lost all hope for the next Mass Effect game...
The art style looks disgusting, like something way worse that what Mihoyo would put out.
The gameplay seems so boring and generic, even asscreed looks more fun than this.
Aaand the writing is so juvenile, like they hired some tumblr users that used to write fanfics about Gossip Girl.
The woke shit only made this problems more apparent and I lost all hope for the next Mass Effect game...
Angry_Megalodon
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Sitting at 30K right now. This thing is pretty much dead, bleeding out before our eyes.
jzbadblood
Neo Member
Dragon Age Inquisition was a big, bland, boring game in 2015. I can't imagine why anyone would want to play that with a worse art style and even less depth in the gameplay. Not to mention the writing. It shocks me this wasn't an even bigger failure.
Dazraell
Member
I was really curious of the development timeline of this game and did some digging. It seems 2015 version was codenamed "Joplin" and was a singleplayer game set in Tevinter and focused around leading a group of spies. Then it was cancelled in 2017 as a lot of devs were shuffled to help with finishing Anthem
Some of the devs who stayed were tasked with figuring out a new version of Dragon Age codenamed "Morrison", which was a live-service game built on Anthem's code. The proper development of it started in 2018 and it was meant to be the same game that was announced during The Game Awards as "Dread Wolf Rises". The development of this game continued to 2021 and went through major rework. EA was convinced to switching Morrison from live-service to singleplayer game, followed with great sales of Fallen Order and Anthem being a flop
Interestingly, it looks like Veilguard still has the Morrison codename on its executable file
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SNPlayen
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Does that mean the chuds are no longer suicidal? (Reference to Reeee post)
Angry_Megalodon
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Tertullian
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For some reason what warmed my heart the most today is seeing that Left 4 Dead 2 currently has more players than Veilguard.
lmimmfn
Member
I bought Space Marine 2 just after release simply because they said they want to deliver good/fun games and not forcing woke/politics into games.
I've not played it yet as still getting through Wukong, I just wanted to support good honest devs.
tkscz
Member
Holy shit, like I got nothing clever for that, this could easily skyrocket the game's development cost to $200M+ and that's before publishing and taxes (though I think EA is one of those companies known for avoiding taxes).
For this game to profit it will have to sell ~7 million units at full price. I'm not going to judge the game, you like it or you don't but AAA budgets are starting to reach unsustainable levels.
Humdinger
Gold Member
I'm going to wait for actual sales data before drawing conclusions about the game's success or failure. I'm not sure what to make of Steam concurrent user peaks. I hear people saying these numbers mean it's a failure, but I don't know how these numbers equate to actual sales or how sales stack up on the consoles. I know it's the only data we have available and people want to figure out whether it's a success or a failure ASAP, but I'd rather suspend judgment and wait for real sales data ... assuming we can get them, eventually.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
It's been rebooted twice since 2015. Those version will have probably been tax write offs.
PeteBull
Member
U think EA wont yell at us if game sells well? They always do it whenever they got the chance, thats how we know for example DA:I sales:
Kacho
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
IDK the rest of the year looks pretty barren for the Modern Audience
Roxkis_ii
Member
I see the game hit 89k last night.
It seems like the number doesn't really matter at thr end of the day. It's people who will call the game a failure to make themselves feel better and people who will call it a successful for the same reason.
For the people on the sidelines, remember, we only have a limited amount of fucks to give. Give a fuck about things that affect you directly. Like your local government and communities and not some online culture war that's a never ending distraction.
It seems like the number doesn't really matter at thr end of the day. It's people who will call the game a failure to make themselves feel better and people who will call it a successful for the same reason.
For the people on the sidelines, remember, we only have a limited amount of fucks to give. Give a fuck about things that affect you directly. Like your local government and communities and not some online culture war that's a never ending distraction.
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Topher
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Eh....you seemed invested enough in this to hand out Ls to the "incels" on Friday based on nothing at all. So now that the game's numbers (which do matter) are not that great then you are going to pretend to be above the fray?
Duchess
Member
Same. I believe Exodus is being made by the original Mass Effect writers and designers, so perhaps that'll be the way to go.
pudel
Member
This culture war happens everywhere mate...also in local governments and communities. Just yesterday we got a new national law, that everyone here can decide now if he is a woman or a man or something funny...just say it and authorities will change your passport instantly. And I can be fined upto 10k if I somehow "misgender" these people. This nonsense is getting out of hands everywhere.
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GC_DALBEN
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6/10 Dragon Age game from 2 friends that bought the game, if you are a little older 30+ theres a lot of moments in the dialog that you roll your eyes, gameplay is ok (its simplified), the game looks good, sound is ok, ill not buy this one, here in Brasil games are really expensive. These diferent Pronoums thing is common in USA/Canada? Ppl make fun of those who use it here in Brasil.
People like me and my friends that loved Origins are not the target of this game, and thats fine, we are a little older.
Sorry about my english
People like me and my friends that loved Origins are not the target of this game, and thats fine, we are a little older.
Sorry about my english
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