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[BennyBlanco]

Says no one.

I don't see any Sony fans complaining about this. It's trivial. The PC fanboys though? Yes, whiney AF

This will 100% completely break the game eventually, and there will be no way to mod it out/ fix it. MS won’t come back to fix it because the game will be delisted by then.

It’s your money and I’m not gonna tell you how to spend it but it has no positive effect for consumers, which is all you should care about here.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

This will 100% completely break the game eventually, and there will be no way to mod it out/ fix it. MS won’t come back to fix it because the game will be delisted by then.

It’s your money and I’m not gonna tell you how to spend it but it has no positive effect for consumers, which is all you should care about here.

Seems like fear mongering rather than reality

 

[Venom Snake]

Well, enjoy paying for basic features and the death of physical disks that actually work offline i guess

About 80% of the games i own are physical. The ones that aren't were either on sale or didn't appear in any other form than digital.

As for the "enjoyment" part, no problem, so far my rebellious attitude towards the gaming industry hasn't brought me as many benefits as having money on the side, so i'll definitely have my fun After all, it's Forza, a successful product that's really worth investing in.

 

[xrnzaaas]

It shouldn't be a requirement, especially since the game is still largely playable in offline mode. It's not like FM8 where always online is mandatory for it to save your progress.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Seems like fear mongering rather than reality

It has happened multiple times already. Every game that relies of G4WL is broken without mods. Every game that uses old versions of UPLay requires you jumping through hoops to get it to work. And to what end? MAU numbers to trot out to shareholders? Who gives a shit. It is introducing points of failure for no reason at all.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard Is ‘Steam Native,’ So You Don’t Need the EA App to Play the Game on PC - IGN

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is “Steam native,” which means the EA App is not required to play the game on Valve’s platform.

www.ign.com

Sony drops PSN account requirement for PC versions of PlayStation games

Sony’s adding perks to convince you to log in to PSN anyway

www.polygon.com

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/steam-version-of-assassins-creed-shadows-does-not-require-the-use-of-ubisoft-connect.1681469/

pC GaMERs ArE EnTitLeD WhInerS

 

[evanft]

Requiring an additional account to play a game, especially on console, is fucking stupid. It does not in any way, shape, or form improve the experience for the end user.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

It has happened multiple times already. Every game that relies of G4WL is broken without mods. Every game that uses old versions of UPLay requires you jumping through hoops to get it to work. And to what end? MAU numbers to trot out to shareholders? Who gives a shit. It is introducing points of failure for no reason at all.

Dragon Age: The Veilguard Is ‘Steam Native,’ So You Don’t Need the EA App to Play the Game on PC - IGN

Dragon Age: The Veilguard is “Steam native,” which means the EA App is not required to play the game on Valve’s platform.

www.ign.com

Sony drops PSN account requirement for PC versions of PlayStation games

Sony’s adding perks to convince you to log in to PSN anyway

www.polygon.com

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/steam-version-of-assassins-creed-shadows-does-not-require-the-use-of-ubisoft-connect.1681469/

pC GaMERs ArE EnTitLeD WhInerS

Example of this happening on PS5?

 

[RoboFu]

I wondered if it means cross saves will work like Diablo.

 

[Syphon Filter]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

 

[Mr Moose]

Expected with MP part. Though needing it for single player part is a bit shit.
Halo MCC all over again

 

[RetroGamingUK]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

Really, I’m sure a large proportion already have a Microsoft email account.

 

[Mr Moose]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

Let me tell you about Call of Duty...

 

[BennyBlanco]

Example of this happening on PS5?

Well you can’t play games from that era on a ps5. But ps6, ps7, etc should be backwards compatible with this and eventually it will break it. If you’re cool with that, ok.

 

[Ogbert]

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I wondered if it means cross saves will work like Diablo.

There's no cross-save, but there's cross-play.

Q: I am already playing Forza Horizon 5 on either Xbox or PC. Will my progress from these other platforms cross over into PlayStation 5?

A: No, Forza Horizon 5 for PlayStation 5 will not carry over save files from versions of the game released on other platforms. This is also the same behavior between the Xbox and Steam versions of the game, where game files are separate and not synchronized.

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/39144665637651-Forza-Horizon-5-on-PS5-FAQ#:~:text=Will%20my%20progress%20from%20these,game%20released%20on%20other%20platforms.

 

[m14]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

No physical media release for them either.

 

[DAHGAMING]

Welcome to the family to all the new Xbros .

 

[Guilty_AI]

About 80% of the games i own are physical.

And your future physical purchases are about to become paperweight, if you keep supporting the practice of requiring 3rd party accounts to play

 

[Mr Moose]

And your future physical purchases are about to become paperweight, if you keep supporting the practice of requiring 3rd party accounts to play

This is digital only.

 

[ReyBrujo]

 

[Guilty_AI]

This is digital only.

Worry not, 3rd party accounts don't discriminate against discs.

 

[Coconutt]

 

[ReyBrujo]

This will 100% completely break the game eventually, and there will be no way to mod it out/ fix it. MS won’t come back to fix it because the game will be delisted by then.

Probably but we still can execute a VB6 application we wrote back in 1997 in the latest Windows...

 

[Ozriel]

People that were screaming about PSN logins for Sony’s games on PC are weirdly quiet…

…

At least there’s cross play and shared leaderboards as an easy explanation for requiring a Microsoft account.

Hard to justify the requirement for a PSN account for PC ports of games like GOW Ragnarok and Spiderman 2.

 

[Mr Moose]

At least there’s cross play and shared leaderboards as an easy explanation for requiring a Microsoft account.

Hard to justify the requirement for a PSN account for PC ports of games like GOW Ragnarok and Spiderman 2.

Trophies.

 

[daxgame]

Hard pass if they do it again on switch 2...

 

[SweetTooth]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

 

[Venom Snake]

And your future physical purchases are about to become paperweight, if you keep supporting the practice of requiring 3rd party accounts to play

For now my support is limited to two games, one of which hasn't even been released yet, so i don't feel particularly guilty at this point.

Besides, i'm already halfway through my life, it's time for me to stop swimming against the current, i've been here since the Atari 2600 (which i still own and which still works, without internet access ), i've gone through all the evolutionary stages of this industry, voted with my wallet and i had to work really hard for everything i purchased.

Just to watch people admire consolidation, monopolistic practices of market giants, buying up defective yet hugely overpriced hardware in the blink of an eye.

I just don't give a fuck anymore but all power to you if you do.

 

[rickybooby87]

Honestly, this is no big deal lol.

 

[reinking]

Honestly, this is no big deal lol.

It is just a little data collection and ENGAGMENT numbers. They already have mine so I am good. It sucks for those that do not want to join another eco system even though I can't imagine there are a lot of people that do not already have a Microsoft account.

 

[reinking]

lol MS played sony fanboys.

...but not as much as they played Xbox fanboys this generation.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I don't even log into Windows with a Microsoft account, imagine thinking I'm going to do it to play a game

 

[Killjoy-NL]

C'mon sony bros, this is the moment you say "it only takes 5 minutes" "it's just an account"

Sure, it's not any different from making an Epic account for Fortnite.

 

[ManaByte]

Well you can’t play games from that era on a ps5. But ps6, ps7, etc should be backwards compatible with this and eventually it will break it. If you’re cool with that, ok.

You seriously think MICROSOFT is going out of business by then?

 

[Edgelord79]

Pretty standard for a multiplayer game with transactions. Not sure why this is an issue.

 

[BennyBlanco]

You seriously think MICROSOFT is going out of business by then?

MS literally already did this with G4WL.

Games for Windows – Live - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[knguyen]

This game is best if you can turn off all in game conversations.

 

[ManaByte]

MS literally already did this with G4WL.

Games for Windows – Live - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about. This is a Microsoft account. The same account you use for Office. Are you trying to claim that Microsoft is going to rug pull their primary market and stop millions of users from accessing Office just to break a PS5 game?

 

[Dr.brain64]

No thanks!

 

[IronLich]

If you need a Microsoft account to play parts of the game, and you can't grab your save associated with, say, the same game you played on Xbox before, then what's the point?

This deal gets worse all the time...

 

[GHG]

I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about. This is a Microsoft account. The same account you use for Office. Are you trying to claim that Microsoft is going to rug pull their primary market and stop millions of users from accessing Office just to break a PS5 game?

That was the same account that GFWL was tied to.

Don't play dumb.

 

[jroc74]

lol fuck off. Even ubisoft games dont require login on ps5

Thank you.

It is interesting how some ppl are glossing over the requirement part.

Its not a requirement for all Ubisoft games. Its not a requirement for all EA games.

Its required for the ...online features....of Ubi and EA games.

Its not required for Minecraft. ...only for some online features is it required......

People that were screaming about PSN logins for Sony’s games on PC are weirdly quiet…

…

The quietest.

Honestly, this is no big deal lol.

It never was a big deal...same as PSN logins for PC games.

 

[adamsapple]

That was the same account that GFWL was tied to.

Don't play dumb.

Correct me if I'm wrong but want gfwl a client software like a launcher?

In this case it doesn't ask to download a launcher, just login with an MS account, which should remain available as long as MS is around ideally.

 

[Gambit2483]

 

[ManaByte]

Correct me if I'm wrong but want gfwl a client software like a launcher?

It also didn’t use Windows Passport (MS Account didn’t exist back then as it does now). You logged in with your Xbox gamer tag.

MS didn’t merge Gamer Tags and MS accounts until the end of the 360 generation leading into the XBO.

 

[demigod]

Says no one.

I don't see any Sony fans complaining about this. It's trivial. The fake xbox PC fanboys though? Yes, whiney AF

Fixed for you

 

[GHG]

Correct me if I'm wrong but want gfwl a client software like a launcher?

In this case it doesn't ask to download a launcher, just login with an MS account, which should remain available as long as MS is around ideally.

There'll be no launcher involved on the PS5 of course, but on PC when you purchase a Microsoft game via Steam for example it requires that you have Xbox gaming services and the Xbox app installed. For all intents and purposes, it's exactly the same setup that GFWL involved, albeit a modernised and rebranded version - without this other required software installed along with being logged in, you won't be able to get access to the game.

At least this time they aren't attempting to make PC gamers pay for playing online via Xbox Live and they aren't duping 3rd party publishers in to also getting involved like they did during the days of GFWL.

It also didn’t use Windows Passport (MS Account didn’t exist back then as it does now). You logged in with your Xbox gamer tag.

MS didn’t merge Gamer Tags and MS accounts until the end of the 360 generation leading into the XBO.

If for any reason you need to access your GFWL account today using any of the available workarounds you sign in using your Microsoft account.

Like I said, don't play dumb.

 

[Sooner]

Well, enjoy paying for basic features and the death of physical disks that actually work offline i guess

The PC and Microsoft guy is really blaming digital-only games and paid online play on Sony?

 

[EverydayBeast]

Linking an account isn’t a big deal.

 

[Guilty_AI]

The PC and Microsoft guy is really blaming digital-only games and paid online play on Sony?

"microsoft guy" lmao. And sony certainly is partially to blame for paid online