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Ghost of Yotei allegedly being written by the same people who wrote Dragon Age Veilguard

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yurinka

Member
I imagine Sony just spin a big wheel of different settings and thats how they decide where they’ll have their next single player lesbian game set.

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lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
not surprising.

if this game fails...well i hope sony knows what to do next if they are smart enough
 
It's considered 'woke' because it's one of many things western creatives push in all forms of media these days. People see it as not genuine, which is often labeled as 'forced diversity'.

Whether its accurate or not is up for debate, but when every studio starts doing the same thing, people aren't willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. The pushback we've been seeing since 2024 is the result of that. Creatives pushed too hard and now no one trusts them, generally speaking.
Brokeback Mountain is one of my favorites. Genuinely touched by the sentiments and struggles of the guys.

I haven't yet seen a single video game that promotes DEI to depict the same sex affection in a mature , proud, or even just genuine way. They are all fucking brain rotted gen z craps.
 

laynelane

Member
This is a matter of being guilty by association. No one here has ever heard of either of these people, but they worked on this one game and so GoY will be, must be, woke? I think it is pretty clear that the woke content that we all hate in Veilguard, the "take a barve" bullshit, etc., came from Corrine Busch. Somehow these writers are going to transform the Ghost franchise, which prided itself on being true to the culture of Japan, and are going to introduce "binary" characters a few hundred years in the past? If that is the case then I'll be the first to shout Sucker Punch down, but I'll need more evidence of it happening than this.



What is surprising? We know nothing about this character. All I'm reading is a bunch of assumptions.

Yeah, I think this is the best way to approach it. People are seeing certain flags and that's fine, but conclusive evidence is really required before making a judgment. We all know what to look for, but we have yet to see it for GoY after all.
 

Boss Mog

Member
Yeah, I think this is the best way to approach it. People are seeing certain flags and that's fine, but conclusive evidence is really required before making a judgment. We all know what to look for, but we have yet to see it for GoY after all.
If you're trying to make an authentic Japanese samurai game that represents that era as acurately as possible then your character is Japanese man, period. If instead you're using an NBA player or a LGBT woman, it's because you have an agenda to push.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Yeah, I think this is the best way to approach it. People are seeing certain flags and that's fine, but conclusive evidence is really required before making a judgment. We all know what to look for, but we have yet to see it for GoY after all.

And I think the GoT team leadership not changing is really important here. These new writers are taking direction from the existing leads.

If you're trying to make an authentic Japanese samurai game that represents that era as acurately as possible then your character is Japanese man, period. If instead you're using an NBA player or a LGBT woman, it's because you have an agenda to push.

The main character is a straw hat, not a samurai. I think that is correct anyway, going by the reveal.
 
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Haint

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Nonbinary tran lesbian sets out to kill all the wrong think feudal lords and spread the new progressive gospel of queer throughout the land. Climb towers to mark all the cis straights and strongholds of toxic masculinity on your HUD and map, regions turn to rainbow flags on the map as you conquer the copy pasta open world.
 

laynelane

Member
If you're trying to make an authentic Japanese samurai game that represents that era as acurately as possible then your character is Japanese man, period. If instead you're using an NBA player or a LGBT woman, it's because you have an agenda to push.

Female warriors did exist in Japan, there's detailed records about them. I have some skepticism about this game too, but I'll need more information on agenda pushing than what we saw in the trailer.
 
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Radical_3d

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2b6

It’s the first time I feel good for hating open world games after missing on soooooooo many pretty looking games over two generations. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW? Fuck you, loose design-no directed progression-inexistent game direction cunts!
 
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Bros I got so upset that after reading this that I threw my phone through the window of the grocery store.

Fortunately it still works. Am I’m back of squad car now, they are taking me somewhere (why?) and using voice to text to type this. But it got me wondering, “What does a video game writer even do?”
 

Goalus

Member
Nonbinary tran lesbian sets out to kill all the wrong think feudal lords and spread the new progressive gospel of queer throughout the land. Climb towers to mark all the cis straights and strongholds of toxic masculinity on your HUD and map, regions turn to rainbow flags on the map as you conquer the copy pasta open world.
You forgot the attempted mansplaining she has to endure from male enemy samurai she encounters throughout her journey. She is able to deflect most of it by letting them know that she is "literally shaking right now" and threatening to report them to the shogun.
 

CityHunter1981

An Absolute Desaster
Pretty sure, Sony made the call. Cannot imagine Sucker Punch was unhappy with the original writing team and thought, these are really good writers.

Could be they hired them before it was known how bad the writing in Veilguard is, but if they still stuck to these writers after Dragon Age bombed, I hope they have someone overlooking and approving the written material.
 

XXL

Member
If this is true...this could be bad, the writing in Veilguard is atrocious.

With that said, I'm not sure about this.

Based on the trailer (which is an extremely small sample size) the writing is pretty good.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
Yeah, there was that one Russian female sniper in WW2 too.

I don't think any of this will matter......

 
This is going to be the next big controversy.

I called it as soon as I saw that they replaced yet another male lead with a woman. But the internet didnt care which was surprising.

I wouldnt be surprised if this chick is a lesbian as well.
The Sony fanboys are the most blinded from reason as Sony had been pretty great for such a long time.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
No one wants to play as a black samurai

No one wants to play as a woman samurai
If it’s done well and like design then I would say why not…..I don’t care about the sex or the race all I care about if the character has good design and like his/her character development.

I don’t like the idea of limiting devs what should or shouldn’t make in their own game.
 

Tams

Member
I don't think any of this will matter......


Both of those articles have flowery language.

And the first one is from a company that offers a course in crystal healing (only £15!), and the second one is from a Japanese snack importer...
 
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Lokaum D+

Member
I'd rather play Woke games all day, than support lazy, untalented devs who make hideous looking last gen quality games. This game looks fucking abysmal

As does the entire Yakuza series, anything FROM puts out, Rise of Ronin, Monster Hunter: Wilds, Zelda, and everything from Nintendo, etc. If we are stuck playing just Japanese games then we are stuck with PS4 quality games forever.

Kojima Production is the only studio from out of Japan putting out next gen looking games.
Lol, thats a dude who loves his tag, by far the most committed character on this forum
 
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Ghost of Tshushima got super popular due to the artstyle, cool movements and wild animals (foxes). Social media was flush with cool takedowns and photos.

This one will too, all they have to make it just bigger and more cooler. That's it. Writing? won't matter. Story, eh hardly if the art and gameplay elements are cool, we cool, internet cool, money cool, I'm cool.
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
This one will too, all they have to make it just bigger and more cooler. That's it. Writing? won't matter. Story, eh hardly if the art and gameplay elements are cool, we cool, internet cool, money cool, I'm cool.
Guess we'll all find out together. But if they focused on gay shit and not cool shit, that will be known very soon.
 

Rudius

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This is nothing new, mate. Here is a painting depicting lesbian sex from ancient Japan. "Woke" has become a very loose term now and is now applied anything resembling modern world politics against conservative viewpoint.
Can't you see that on the painting they are good looking and busty? I mean boobs. In the game version their children would DEI from starvation.
 

yurinka

Member
I did a quick investigation via Moby Games/LinkedIn/Twitter/BlueSky to see where's there the full DA Veilguard writing staff is:
  • Narrative Director: at Bioware, currently Senior Narrative Director
  • Principal Narrative Designer: at Bioware
  • Lead Writer: looking for a job since 3 days ago, uses they/them pronouns
  • Writers:
    • 2 at Sucker Punch, the mentioned ones in the OP
    • 2 at Motive
    • 2 looking for a job
    • 1 I don't know but recently deleted her LinkedIn page
  • Minimum 3 other Bioware writers not credited in the game, looking for a job since 3 days ago

I also researched where each member of the Ghost of Tsushima 1 writing team is now:
  • 1 Lead left to work in Netflix and as freelance, later became narrative director of the As Dusk Falls studi
  • 1 Lead continues at Sucker Punch
  • 1 Senior moved in 2021 Monolith (WB), now is Narrative Lead at Cloud Chamber (2K)
  • 1 Senior moved last year to become Principal Writer at That's No Moon
  • 1 writer left in 2020, worked in KOTOR remake and now is senior writer at Bordelands 4
  • 1 additinal writer not sure where he is now, before working in GoT did work in ME Andromeda
  • 1 additional writer left to become freelance, worked the first two years of the game in Concord, now is Senior Writer and Loremaster at Zenimax Online
 

hyperbertha

Member
We are talking about two people who left Bioware in 2020 and 2023. How the hell do you know what they wrote? As far as you know they left because they disagreed with the direction of the game. Do you care? They worked on Veilguard is all that matters, right?

Reminds me of another politician....

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If they left bioware on those dates they already wrote on Andromeda and vielguard. 2023 is way too late to 'disagree' on direction. They contributed to the writing. And seeing as their is not a single line of dialogue or section of story that is decent in these games, it's fair to say these two are part of the problem
 

poodaddy

Member
Come on man, they mostly are. I like your posts and I know you're not one of the hardened defenders of woke stuff, and you know, or at least I'd hope you do as long as I've been around here, that I don't post a ton but I try to be objective man. I'm not trying to rile shit up, but that list of their work is mostly woke stuff, it just is. Not all of it, but yeah the majority for sure. I get you're excited about the game, I hope it's good for your sake, but we can't pretend that this person's political biases aren't worn on their sleeve and are certainly a valid concern for the welfare of the project. This isn't culture wars, and it's not a witch hunt, I adamantly disagree with you on that. Usually you're much less biased and defensive, so I think you're just really hoping this games gonna be great, and hey I get that man, no worries bro.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I'm not denying that there were female warriors in Japan.

I was just pointing out that you could have found some better sources.

Perhaps

If they left bioware on those dates they already wrote on Andromeda and vielguard. 2023 is way too late to 'disagree' on direction. They contributed to the writing. And seeing as their is not a single line of dialogue or section of story that is decent in these games, it's fair to say these two are part of the problem

So you 100% completed Veilguard?
 
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