Thats general rule, and if u generalise it, u are right, but ofc, we got some exception:
I think we wont see ps6 before holidays 2028, for the very reason it will still have console form factor, aka it really needs 3nm manufacturing process, we will probably see new xbox tho, since it can be huge and can have huge pc alike powerdraw
Intergalactic Won’t Launch in 2026 – Rumor : reportedly quite a ways off from release, per Bloomberg's Jason Schreier.
The Witcher 4 Won’t Launch Before 2027 at the Earliest – CDPR
by 2027 and the time GTAVI is released, there will be new next-gen consoles, marking and proving this entire generation as the barren letdown that it was
Or, it's actually just ubisoft taking their sweet time making a limited visually flawed buggy copy just to troll me for fun now? Or I have to return my crappy gpu to nvidia and suing them to give me the one they specifically fine tuned for your friendly neighborhood superstar Digital Fraudry ? Or getting the beast machine ps5pro to enjoy the beauty of asscreed?
Without air pollutions everywhere I'm sure you can find it in no time ;P
Idk if you honestly think this is enough for current gen then I guess it's totally not exaggerate at all to say Avatar had already began to tease ps6 gen back in 2023 lollllll
I really hate to be the pessimistic type, but to me all their efforts are only making this a half way around ps4.5 at its finest. The more you digging around, the more disappointments await. Especially whenever you have to stay in the winter season:
Here goes a pretty fun experiment ahead, fog on/off with "extended range but still hopeless as the very same lod": (all thanks to game photomode tools made by this genius: https://www.patreon.com/posts/assassins-creed-125055393 )
Can't believe in 2025 you can see terrain and vegetations like this in a big aaa game, at this spot even the shadow in the hills is pixelated as hell:
Now you see why they always want to cover everything with thickkkky fog and fx effects as long as you are reaching a vintage point, because when you using tools to get rid of them, game will just look like this:
Can't notice obvious pop-ins you say? Okay try harder then
And I'm pretty sure mountains in our world ain't have cutie patterns like this, Japan or not
So, you still feel it's really okay to accept things like these?
Richard Dunn outfit has so many bones, really nice homage from ubi
Ah damn, that looks so fun, such a shame physics and interactivity is still so rare, it makes such a big difference for me. I also really love the look of that motion blur.Same. I spend most of the time in the battles maneuvering around just so I can kick fools into objects lol
As much as I like AC Shadows, it is way too big. You have not one but two characters with their own full combat styles and feature sets. You have a massive map that after 30 hours ive only explored around 20%. The story is only 1/3rd of the way done. Just had the Act 1 trophy pop up around 25 hours in. So this has effectively a 75 hour campaign.
Intergalactic Won’t Launch in 2026 – Rumor : reportedly quite a ways off from release, per Bloomberg's Jason Schreier.
The Witcher 4 Won’t Launch Before 2027 at the Earliest – CDPR
by 2027 and the time GTAVI is released, there will be new next-gen consoles, marking and proving this entire generation as the barren letdown that it was
And we wont see a true next gen PS6 game from CD Project and Naughty Dog until 2035 when the PS6 launches.I think we wont see ps6 before holidays 2028, for the very reason it will still have console form factor, aka it really needs 3nm manufacturing process, we will probably see new xbox tho, since it can be huge and can have huge pc alike powerdraw
Absolutely unacceptable, what are these studios even doing? 7 years for a single game is not anywhere close to sane.
Intergalactic Won’t Launch in 2026 – Rumor : reportedly quite a ways off from release, per Bloomberg's Jason Schreier.
The Witcher 4 Won’t Launch Before 2027 at the Earliest – CDPR
by 2027 and the time GTAVI is released, there will be new next-gen consoles, marking and proving this entire generation as the barren letdown that it was
They made Druckman CEO/studio head in 2020 after TLOU2 came out.
This means we can probably assume that his "started dev in 2020" statement is bullshit, I imagine. More like 2020 pre-production and 2022 full production.
The Witcher 4 isn’t surprising, as CDPR are very much wanting to push visuals to the max here. Intergalactic reportedly being as down the road as it is, that’s a head scratcher and a little… I won’t say humorous. Just baffling. That means it’ll very much be a cross-gen title for the PS6, or at least the chance is pretty high.
Intergalactic Won’t Launch in 2026 – Rumor : reportedly quite a ways off from release, per Bloomberg's Jason Schreier.
The Witcher 4 Won’t Launch Before 2027 at the Earliest – CDPR
by 2027 and the time GTAVI is released, there will be new next-gen consoles, marking and proving this entire generation as the barren letdown that it was
What surprised me is that the destruction is very precise. It's not canned like it is in the demon souls remake. Here you can cut through cloth/banners, baskets, barrels and other objects with the precision of MGS Rising. If its a horizontal sword strike, it will make that cut. If its a vertical or angled strike, it will only cut that part of the object. I didnt even realize that they had to make it that granular but they did. Very cool.
this is classic CDPR , annouce a game 5 years too early (Cyberpunk was announced in 2013!), share prices go up
Man, really like the interior lighting, I wish they'll make an AC game that's smaller in scale, but has more complex inside locations.
Also I like the look of these shrines/temples and how the GI blends it all together.
Believe it or not, Unity on PC maxed out had such interiorsMan, really like the interior lighting, I wish they'll make an AC game that's smaller in scale, but has more complex inside locations.
Also I like the look of these shrines/temples and how the GI blends it all together.
You are in luck. the next mainline AC is linear and will likely feature more interiors.Man, really like the interior lighting, I wish they'll make an AC game that's smaller in scale, but has more complex inside locations.
Also I like the look of these shrines/temples and how the GI blends it all together.
Yup. Even on console, the RTGI is at full bore; there’s no BS here. It’s insanely high quality, and it makes Shadows have some of the best lighting and shadows of the entire generation. The wind and wind physics are also incredible, and said wind even affects things like rain when there is a torrential downpour.
The rest of the industry finally starting to catch up to a WiiU exclusive...
I think small details like these elevate a game. That's why old games have so much integrity compare to the recent games because the developers had making attention to nuances. I didn't have any Nintendo console but from outside eye, that's why Nintendo games seemed so full.
The rest of the industry finally starting to catch up to a WiiU exclusive...
By the way if you're playing Shadows you will have seen about two hours in what the moonlight does using RTGI. Very similar and just as impressive as Avatar.
Yes, which is what makes the game look better than most games released this gen.
Add 343i and Rocksteady to this list. Rocksteady took 9 years to release Suicide Squad and their next game is going to be so late, it will be cross gen with PS6.
Yep, i played recently, and the pop-in is not good. And its on everything. From buildings to NPCs whose clothes magically pop-in as you get closer. And lighting also feels low quality compared to the stuff we see today.
the visuals were clearly downgraded post-Unity, especially with Syndicate to the point that I thought there was something wrong with my GPUI dont know about downgraded. AC Origins was absolutely stunning. They just had to rework the engine to support the vast open world and day night cycles. It still had extraordinary lighting and asset quality. The material work in that game's roman cities like Alexandria and Cyprus still holds up.
of course it didn't
I just posted a video of it, reminding all of us of how good it looks still today, how am I wearing rose-tinted glasses here?
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is also saying Origins is great he must be having a pang of nostalgia too then? no it is his honest opinion
Friendship ended with Callisto??I just posted a video of it, reminding all of us of how good it looks still today, how am I wearing rose-tinted glasses here?
similar to all the games that came out at the time such as Arkham Knight , another great open world game with great visuals
I am not saying that unity is better, I am only saying it did a lot more with what it had
of course Shadows is better in many areas, no doubt about that. but for a current-gen game, it is not comparable to Unity in terms of innovation and visuals and the wow factor
I was wowed only twice this gen
The Silent Hill, and HellBlade2 [ not counting The Matrix]
nah never, but I thought we were talking about current-gen only
And Slipspace isn’t really even “new” per se; it’s still good ‘ol BLAM!, but just in a trench coat and hat.
I think I understand what you're trying to say and for Unity I agree with you. Also agree with you that Syndicate was kinda downgrade all over. But I just don't agree with you that Ubisoft did nothing to the AC engine Anvil since then and stayed the same.I just posted a video of it, reminding all of us of how good it looks still today, how am I wearing rose-tinted glasses here?
similar to all the games that came out at the time such as Arkham Knight , another great open world game with great visuals from freaking 2015
I am not saying that unity is better, I am only saying it did a lot more with what it had
of course Shadows is better in many areas, no doubt about that. but for a current-gen game, it is not comparable to Unity in terms of innovation and visuals and the wow factor
I was wowed only twice this gen
The Silent Hill, and HellBlade2 [ not counting The Matrix]
I know that most people hate Ubi and they are rightly so. I hate them as well on some occasions. But I'm also praising them for their effort with Shadows. I can both hate and praise them nothing wrong with it
Right. The fact that they added support for virtualized geometry and ray traced GI and reflections clearly shows that they took next gen seriously. A lot more than some of the other so-called AAA studios. Now granted, virtualized geometry isnt supported for foliage and that likely lead to a somewhat last gen look for the game's abundant foliage, but adding a fully dynamic weather and seasons system must have required a lot of work under the hood as well. Not to mention support this kind of granular destruction which is completely physics based and almost missing from most games this gen.I think I understand what you're trying to say and for Unity I agree with you. Also agree with you that Syndicate was kinda downgrade all over. But I just don't agree with you that Ubisoft did nothing to the AC engine Anvil since then and stayed the same.
I believe there are certain things caused you this thought ("they downgraded the AC games so much, the engine never truly recovered from it.").
First is Ubisoft really did opened flood gates with the Unity and at that time's technology and PS4/XboxOne/PC couldn't handle that. Remember the negative backleash they recieved? With all those bugs and problems? They opened flood gates too much and rest is shitstorm. They even moved from Unity prematurely because of bugs. But they made the generational graphics jump. Hell they even outrun themselves again with the Dead Kings dlc.
Second is the decision to shift AC games to open world instead of semi-open world. When they leaped technologically with semi open Unity and caused all those problems, they wanted to play safe with their new open world AC game Origins. They didn't get too invested in graphics wise. They focused their attention on open world and gameplay. I think their choice borne fruit and Origins recieved good feedbacks both graphics wise and gameplay. But like you said it wasn't jaw dropping like Unity. Nevertheless I cannot say it was a downgrade after Syndicate. I think with Origins Ubisoft entered diminishing return area with Anvil.
Third is Shadows may seem the continuation of Valhalla/Odyssey/Origins on the surface but it seems there are lots of improvement under the hood: RTGI, upgraded LOD, seemingly highly reduced pop-ins etc. etc. That is why I'm trying to say I can really see improvements since Origins graphically. Since we are in the domain of diminishing returns, maybe it doesn't seen as much but as a mainstream game and even a Ubi game I'm impressed by it. Didn't expect them to improve an AC game this much. For me this is kinda Unity leap, unexpected from Ubi at all.
Maaaan I'm not a graphics person at all and writing here all this wall of texts
PS: Again, I won't accept Unity is better than Shadows comparison. In totality of graphics, Shadows put other AC games behind itself. Ubi may found the sweet spot for their future AC games. The next thing they should do is improve LOD again, getting zero pop ins/ups and maybe add path tracing.
Man, really like the interior lighting, I wish they'll make an AC game that's smaller in scale, but has more complex inside locations.
Also I like the look of these shrines/temples and how the GI blends it all together.
I agree with everything you said, I never said that Unity looks better. but I did say Unity did a lot more with the hardware it was given and was, despite the bugs and lack of optimisation, a far more visually consistent experience. if you put these two games side by side and ask me which one wins, while taking into account the year of release and the hardware, I will say Unity hands down
their effort is admirable, no doubt.
www.eurogamer.net
It’s mostly a gpu bottleneck and cerny had the option to improve the cpu in his expensive $700 upgrade but he didn’t so they don’t get any sympathy from me.
Thanks so much for the info and examples!Basically trying to reach the draw distance limit the engine actually supports: Eliminating mid-to-far distance ugly low detail models in order to match the geometry lod draw distance to game's photomode max camera zoom level, and disable map culling to correct some rendering errors. And more importantly, extending the rendering distance range of hq detail map buildings further away. All thanks to this genius dude found these methods:
Increased Geometry Level of Detail
Allows the increase of the geometry level of detail slider above 1.0 without breaking the lod.www.nexusmods.com
[Sidenotes if u are interested: The og value game supports is lodscale 1.0,although you can set the value above and set the game setting file to read-only for game to identify the change but there goes some graphical issues like distant tree lod models competely disappeared, the mod creator here basically digging through game files and found way to fix the problem. Now he only extended the max lodscale to 2.0,but from my testing this is just half way through as the game's max engine limit (that will make a difference in performance and making everything to reach photo mode 75mm cam) is around 4.0 or 5.0,same as gtav, but this is pretty much useless as it will only lag the rendering to hell and making the world become pretty much unstable with environment models disappear as you moving around. I found the actual reliable ideal value is sitting around 2.5-3.0 ,aside from very few models 3.0 and 4.0(5.0) is kinda 95% the same visually wise, but still not a few of distant models appears to having troubles when about to switching lods in some noticeable spots: Like the whole low detail models will just disappear for 2-3 secs before switch to higher quality one, as the original process of "seamless lod switching" become semi-broken, then 4.0(5.0) value just making the whole thing become much more evident.
Imo, set the lodscale value to 2.5 is the ideal way to go, as 80% above game assets are same as 3.0.And when there goes some differences, they're still being controlled in a very acceptable level ,e.g. when under lodscale 3.0 the hq model's rendering range is 600m,then it's like 480m+ at worst when play with lodscale 2.5, so its more cost reasonable quality wise, as 2.5 already becoming very cpu&gpu hungry ]
Some old comparison shots:
