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[Lunatic_Gamer]

According to a screenshot from an xCloud file shared by the Twitter/X account Red Better xCloud, Microsoft is allegedly developing a new controller with codenames such as Sebile_Delgado and Sebile_EV1B, hinting at compatibility with the next Xbox console.

The controller is said to feature modular design and improved haptics, akin to the DualSense, enhancing the gaming experience with advanced vibration feedback. Additionally, it will reportedly abandon replaceable batteries for an internal rechargeable battery and include a gesture-based "awake" function.

Back in 2021 Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer, praised the DualSense and suggested Microsoft might integrate similar features into future Xbox controllers.

While the controller could launch with the next-gen Xbox, it might also support the current Xbox Series X|S earlier, as indicated by its presence in xCloud files.

Leaked Details Indicate Next-Generation Xbox Controller May Feature Capabilities Similar To DualSense

The next-gen Xbox controller may offer features similar to those available on the PS5's DualSense controller, according to a new rumor.

twistedvoxel.com

 

[DeepEnigma]

We love those gimmicks™ now!

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Too little too late, if all they are doing is playing catch up

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

We love those gimmicks™ now!

Some people love said gimmicks

Some of us shut off said gimmicks for the most part

 

[TehGoomba7s]

They'd be wise to. The Dualsense is a joy to use compared to SX Controller. Games that really take advantage of it enhance the experience so much.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Great artists steal

 

[Moses85]

How about Holo Deck instead?

 

[adamsapple]

Some people love said gimmicks

Some of us shut off said gimmicks for the most part

Indeed.

Can't wait to turn any of that haptics bullshit off, if present.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Indeed.

Can't wait to turn any of that haptics bullshit off, if present.

I sometimes like the haptics depending on the game but always shut off the triggers, hate those

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Indeed.

Can't wait to turn any of that haptics bullshit off, if present.

Imagine turning off haptics in a game like Returnal

If you have to turn off Haptics in a game, that's on the developer for poor implementation.

 

[bitbydeath]

Should correct the stick placement while they're at it too.

 

[hinch7]

Looking forward to this. Apart from my 8-bitdo Ultimate, the Xbox controller has always been default on PC; for compatibility if anything. Hopefully this comes with paddles as standard.

Improved haptics and adaptive triggers would be nice additions as well.

 

[Calverz]

The haptics vibrate far less than actual rumble motors and the triggers cause finger fatigue. The touch pad is entirely pointless, the mic listens in to private conversations and the light bar reflects on the tv screen when it's dark.
Rechargeable battery is a good idea.

 

[kevboard]

Imagine turning off haptics in a game like Returnal

If you have to turn off Haptics in a game, that's on the developer for poor implementation.

Returnal and Ratchet are the only 2 games with well implemented trigger effects. (and Astro's Playroom, but that's not a full game and actually there as a controller demo)

everything else is just awful. Spider-Man just makes them feel spongy for wherever reason... like who came up with that shit? and every shooter just adds some annoying rattle effect when you pull the trigger, which often doesn't work correctly as it doesn't always reset properly if you tap too fast.

this is sadly the fate of most controller features. there will be the launch titles that actually show them off, and then you'll get maybe 1 or 2 games after that initial launch period where they are used in ok-ish ways.

Sixaxis on PS3, the touchpad on PS4, Xbox Impulse triggers, HD rumble. the Wii U gamepad Screen being off the worst of all of them, as Nintendo themselves didn't even bother using it in Breath of the Wild literally just giving you a black screen... that's insane, especially after Wind Waker HD used it so well that the gamepad addition alone made the game way more enjoyable than the original, even if we ignore all the other gameplay improvements. on-the-fly item switching, ocean map on screen at all times... it was so well implemented... and then to just have a black screen in BOTW was truly shocking

 

[AzekZero]

Feature parity is nice, but I care more about the sticks.

I'd pay 120 USD if the next PS/Xbox controller has hall-effect sticks built in without modularity. Right now, Dualsense Edge is 200 USD and the stick modules it comes with aren't hall-effect sticks.

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

The Dualsense Edge is the best controller on the market, and the Elite 2... is not. Microsoft playing catch up in this area in 2025 is indicative of Microsoft overall.

 

[Black_Stride]

Should correct the stick placement while they're at it too.

 

[damidu]

need to make it a third party ps controller now, for any engagement

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Should correct the stick placement while they're at it too.

 

[kevboard]

The Dualsense Edge is the best controller on the market, and the Elite 2... is not. Microsoft playing catch up in this area in 2025 is indicative of Microsoft overall.

it doesn't have hall effect sticks, that alone instantly disqualifies it as "the best controller on the market"... let alone the sub-par dpad.

the Razer Wolverine V3 is better in every way, but even cheaper ones like some of the 8bitdo controllers are better.

in a world where 40€ controllers have hall effect sticks, it's hilarious that neither the Xbox Elite nor the Dualsense Edge have them, and makes both of them a joke in this day and age

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

it doesn't have hall effect sticks, that alone instantly disqualifies it as "the best controller on the market"... let alone the sub-par dpad.

the Razer Wolverine V3 is better in every way, but even cheaper ones like some of the 8bitdo controllers are better.

in a world where 40€ controllers have hall effect sticks, it's hilarious that neither the Xbox Elite nor the Dualsense Edge have them, and makes both of them a joke in this day and age

 

[kevboard]

You will give a shit in a year or so when you have stick drift and have to buy one of those overpriced modules to replace it

one of them costs almost as much as a whole ass 8bitdo controller... which has hall effect sticks

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The Dualsense Edge is the best controller on the market

Best first party controller but several third party ones are much better

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

You will give a shit in a year or so when you have stick drift and have to buy one of those overpriced modules to replace it

Already had it since launch, numb nuts.

As I said:

 

[Skifi28]

Should correct the stick placement while they're at it too.

People make too much of a fuss about stick placement. I alternate on a daily basis between a dualsense edge and a controller with Xbox placement. It has never bothered me and it generally doesn't even register in my mind even the moment I switch from one to the other.

 

[kevboard]

Already had it since launch, numb nuts.

As I said:

so you're saying the day of stick-drift reckoning is closer than I thought?

the countdown is ticking... any day now

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

so you're saying the day of reckoning is closer than I thought?

the countdown is ticking... any day now

Goodness, is it?

 

[onQ123]

Probably the controller that was supposed to release with Brooklyn

 

[Horseganador]

They make good copies of the Dualsense even though they are many years late, the Xbox controller feels obsolete when you switch from one to the other.

 

[iHaunter]

Imagine turning off haptics in a game like Returnal

If you have to turn off Haptics in a game, that's on the developer for poor implementation.

It's greatly implemented IMHO. I have never turned off a PS5 controller feature.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

It's greatly implemented IMHO. I have never turned off a PS5 controller feature.

Single player games they can be pretty cool but playing a lot of shooters I don't want any movement out of my controller and especially don't want tension on the triggers that might slow my shoot time

 

[onQ123]

Hardware - Microsoft Patents Movable And Tunable Haptic Motors For Xbox Controllers

https://tech4gamers.com/microsoft-patents-movable-haptic-controller/ The Microsoft vs. Sony console arms race might have been concluded—at least officially—but the competition between the two giants certainly has not ended yet. Sony’s haptic feedback tech has become the hallmark of the...

www.neogaf.com

 

[Ashamam]

Can't wait to turn any of that haptics bullshit off, if present.

But they'll be MS haptics, I have a feeling that will make all the difference for you.

 

[RobRSG]

Imagine turning off haptics in a game like Returnal

If you have to turn off Haptics in a game, that's on the developer for poor implementation.

Some people like vibrating things more than others.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Late to the party. They will already be behind the PS6 Controller tech which will include a pocket pussy.

 

[Gojiira]

Awwwww just catching up to Playstation, meanwhile PS6 controller will no doubt improve even further

 

[Ozriel]

The Sebile controller(s) was already leaked back in 2023 as part of the FTC leak, and tied to mid gen upgrades.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/massive-ftc-leak-mid-gen-xbox-hardware-series-s-x-refreshes-new-controller-and-game-plans.1661240/

None of this Is new and nothing says it's for a next gen console. We've discussed this before.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Some people love said gimmicks

Some of us shut off said gimmicks for the most part

I do turn everything off, like you. But not for the same reasons.. I remember you said once because of your injured wrists?

 

[mayham2199]

Returnal and Ratchet are the only 2 games with well implemented trigger effects. (and Astro's Playroom, but that's not a full game and actually there as a controller demo)

everything else is just awful. Spider-Man just makes them feel spongy for wherever reason... like who came up with that shit? and every shooter just adds some annoying rattle effect when you pull the trigger, which often doesn't work correctly as it doesn't always reset properly if you tap too fast.

this is sadly the fate of most controller features. there will be the launch titles that actually show them off, and then you'll get maybe 1 or 2 games after that initial launch period where they are used in ok-ish ways.

Sixaxis on PS3, the touchpad on PS4, Xbox Impulse triggers, HD rumble. the Wii U gamepad Screen being off the worst of all of them, as Nintendo themselves didn't even bother using it in Breath of the Wild literally just giving you a black screen... that's insane, especially after Wind Waker HD used it so well that the gamepad addition alone made the game way more enjoyable than the original, even if we ignore all the other gameplay improvements. on-the-fly item switching, ocean map on screen at all times... it was so well implemented... and then to just have a black screen in BOTW was truly shocking

Feels great in CP2077 to me. Even saw they created a mod for the pc version.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

I do turn everything off, like you. But not for the same reasons.. I remember you said once because of your injured wrists?

Yeah it does take a toll on my wrist that has had several surgeries

 

[Zacfoldor]

They need to, ekobo-kun controller be antiquated.

 

[itruk312]

Just make it compatible with playstation consoles...pleeease

 

[Sebastian1295]

I've never had a stick drift issue on any of my controllers ever and that includes ps2, ps3, etc. I feel like if you have a stick drift issue then it's because you're abusing the sticks and not playing optimally personally.

 

[Loomy]

Returnal and Ratchet are the only 2 games with well implemented trigger effects

Forbidden West would like a chat

 

[ManaByte]

And I'll still turn off the trigger effects in every MP game.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Xbox controller already has the best layout. Give it a gyroscope, TMR sticks, and back buttons and it would be pretty much perfect.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Probably similar because it will work with PlayStation. Would not surprise me in the least at this point.

 

[cash_longfellow]

Xbox controller already has the best layout. Give it a gyroscope, TMR sticks, and back buttons and it would be pretty much perfect.

 

[Shakka43]

I'm all for it as it will speed up the PC adaptation rate too.

 

[poppabk]

It's greatly implemented IMHO. I have never turned off a PS5 controller feature.

I really dislike the feeling of the adaptive triggers. The movement feels 'gritty' compared to the smoothness when it is turned off.
The rest are nice features, but I really don't notice them very much.