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[ArtHands]

Safe to say this is a failure on Sony Playstation's part. When even DQ3 Remake's peak CCU is multiple folds higher.

 

[Physiognomonics]

This is so unbelievably wrong.

The second blue ocean resides in the game types that PC gamers like.

Helldivers 2 shows us that. Every single one of PlayStations studios needs to start making games for the PC and console audience, not just the console audience.

This is one game. The only other game is a Marvel IP and the first game of their biggest IP on PS5 (GoW 1)

 

[Generic]

FW was the opportunity they had to turn Horizon into a massive franchise and they blew it. Story, writing, characters, was all bad and a huge step below the first. The gameplay had some nice iterations but Aloy was so unlikeable and the whole game was just like this parade of annoying freaks. To make a franchise, you need cool characters people like and an intriguing story, FW had neither.

Ragnarok was kind of the same thing. Sony hasn't done well with these sequels this gen, for whatever reason.

But GoW 2018 wasn't good either.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Herman Hulst, my boy. i had so much confidence in you.

 

[BigBeauford]

Even GoW Ragnarok kinda bombed on Steam. There is no second blue ocean on PC. The customers who buy their games on PC are also replacing their Playstation with a high end PC. They are doomed to fail if they follow MS strategy.

The reasons for GoW Ragnarok having less than half of GoW's all time CCU is much more multifaceted than you are reducing it to.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Yeah, as day 1 titles with lots of marketing and hype behind them. Shouldn't be a surprise to see them sell way less a year or two after they've released when all the hype is gone.

Again, Helldivers 2 is a nice example of how well a day 1 release can do on Steam.

Funny, the PC community keeps saying all the time how they are okay with waiting.

 

[Kacho]

But GoW 2018 wasn't good either.

Considering the drop in players from GoW 2018 to GoW:R on PC, I think a lot of people felt the same.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Funny, the PC community keeps saying all the time how they are okay with waiting.

I am as well. Doesn't change the fact that releasing games day 1 results in better sales.

 

[Fake]

But GoW 2018 wasn't good either.

Far far better than GoW Ragnarok to be honest.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I am as well. Doesn't change the fact that releasing games day 1 results in better sales.

Presumably.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Presumably.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

This is one game.

No, the PC market plays many games. In fact, if you look at them it's very easy to see which types of games PC players prefer.

PlayStation Studios target demographics shifted wildly when Sony decided they were going to PC. An awesome shift.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Holy shit. Don't LEGO games do pretty good?

They do, but all of them were tied to HUGE IPs. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Marvel, Batman, Pirates of the Caribbean, etc.

I just don't think Horizon holds a candle to those IPs at all.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Didn't even know it already released.

 

[SportsFan581]

Seems more targeted at the Switch and a younger audience, maybe it does better on there.

 

[Guerilla Munch]

nobody asked for this game

I'll save my money for Lego Forspoken

 

[Xtib81]

Lmao. Nobody asked for this game though.

 

[MayauMiao]

nobody asked for this game

I'll save my money for Lego Forspoken

Forspoken? Terrible choice. Lego Concord should be a hit!

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Man, Sony REALLY wants to make Aloy into an iconic character up there with Master Chief, Solid Snake, Lara Croft etc.

Ain’t happening.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Forspoken? Terrible choice. Lego Concord should be a hit!

I’m waiting for Lego Dustborn myself

 

[Fahdis]

Dude even George Lucas said it was always aimed at kids.

"It" being phallic looking objects right?












Of course, I mean Light Sabers, perverts.

 

[Hookshot]

So few people playing it that it's bouncing around the low 400's, going up and down with each refresh.

 

[rofif]

of course.
Hermen really thinks that borizon gets so much love? especially on pc? lol
And at 70$ for a lego game?
I mean, it looks kinda fun and then lego aloy can't fucking stop squeeking and speaking

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Who would even buy this on PC? I suspect Kids play Lego games on consoles.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

of course.
Hermen really thinks that borizon gets so much love? especially on pc? lol
And at 70$ for a lego game?
I mean, it looks kinda fun and then lego aloy can't fucking stop squeeking and speaking

You do realize Lego wanted to make the game and they approached Sony? And then Lego made the game, not Hermen and GG.

 

[rofif]

You do realize Lego wanted to make the game and they approached Sony?

yes

 

[Killjoy-NL]

yes

So, how does Hermen force this game onto the market?

 

[rofif]

So, how does Hermen force this game onto the market?

the answer is still yes.

 

[diffusionx]

So, how does Hermen force this game onto the market?

I didn't realize that Lego runs Sony and decides what gets made.

 

[Life Diff]

Wait this came out this week? I feel like this got fuck all marketing

 

[Magic Carpet]

Wait this came out this week? I feel like this got fuck all marketing

I'm seeing a lot of Youtube ads today. Maybe the marketing started this morning.
Maybe it will get an uptick this weekend.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I didn't realize that Sony runs Lego and decides what gets made.

Ikr?

 

[TransTrender]

This will probably sell millions on the Switch.

 

[diffusionx]

Ikr?

sounds like both companies were retarded

 

[SweetTooth]

Similar CCU to Sackboy, although that one was a late PC port - https://steamdb.info/app/1599660/charts/

Sony

STOP the PC releases.. Not worth it

 

[Gen.Grievous]

It's another reskinned lego game. Who buys these games anyway?

Did I miss something? Why does GAF hate Horizon so much? Is it just because they made Aloy’s personality kind of insufferable in Forbidden West?

I don’t recall a hate boner like this after HZD.

Insecure teenage boys. Although I must admit I haven't played Forbidden West yet so maybe my opinion will change.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Never liked the Horizon games anyway and a Lego version of it sure isn't changing my mind.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Sony

STOP the PC releases.. Not worth it

Over half of Helldivers 2 sales have been on PC in the US: 'Already the 7th highest grossing Sony published game in history'

Helldivers 2 is already a bigger success in the US than Horizon and The Last of Us.

www.pcgamer.com

 

[deriks]

How is in Nintendo switch?

Probably better, but doesn't mean good

It's a cursed game. Even the original is very mid and sonyboys put everything to say that is not, and even themselves cry in the shower for it

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Did I miss something? Why does GAF hate Horizon so much? Is it just because they made Aloy’s personality kind of insufferable in Forbidden West?

I don’t recall a hate boner like this after HZD.

It's that they took a solid game with Zero Dawn and then forced it to become a franchise when people were kinda fine with just the one game. And they keep insisting on making it happen, despite the main character being kind of a throwaway and the novelty of robo-dinosaurs wearing off pretty quickly even in the first game.

This game is just a complete audience mismatch. Horizon isn't really a kids franchise, and Lego is (while obviously not universally) more of a kids property. One cannot help but groan at this being thrown at us now.

 

[Loomy]

I don't know who the first person to use Steam CCU numbers as an absolute indicator of whether or not a game is doing well, but my god you people know how to run something into the ground.

In what world is Steam the primary platform for little kids playing lego games? This game is going to sell a lot of Playstation and Switch over the next 2 months. Most people are not going to be playing it on Steam.

Steam CCU is not the be-all/end-all for sales performance.

This game is just a complete audience mismatch. Horizon isn't really a kids franchise, and Lego is (while obviously not universally) more of a kids property. One cannot help but groan at this being thrown at us now.

Astro Bot showed that most things can be 'kidified'. All my kid wants to do is watch me run through the Zero Dawn map finding Tall Necks to climb. All that from 1 level in Astro Bot where you play as Aloy.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Yay. Hope Sony fire Hulfag after another failure and shove alloy up his ass.

So sick of her fatty ball face

 

[midnightAI]

It's that they took a solid game with Zero Dawn and then forced it to become a franchise when people were kinda fine with just the one game. And they keep insisting on making it happen, despite the main character being kind of a throwaway and the novelty of robo-dinosaurs wearing off pretty quickly even in the first game.

This game is just a complete audience mismatch. Horizon isn't really a kids franchise, and Lego is (while obviously not universally) more of a kids property. One cannot help but groan at this being thrown at us now.

You honestly think people expected Horizon to be a one and done game? Since when does that happen with Sonys internally developed AAA games? (Except for Housemarque games that is) If a game does well you make a sequel, there is nothing unusual with that.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Hey everyone, I bet this didn't sell on Switch either. Aloy and Horizon are not a draw after the 2nd game. I'm a huge Nintendo fan and would not buy this game on my PS5 Prah, much less my Switch, just saying.

Watch, Switch did not save this puppy.

If they want to franchise Aloy they need to make her a better person. In her case, that means being nice, friendly, and less aggressive OR, and hear me out, make her go full Kratos and give her superpowers, but ya gotta pick a lane.

 

[SweetTooth]

Over half of Helldivers 2 sales have been on PC in the US: 'Already the 7th highest grossing Sony published game in history'

Helldivers 2 is already a bigger success in the US than Horizon and The Last of Us.

www.pcgamer.com

Keep the GAAS initiative, Stop releading SP games..Brokies can't afford anything more than $0.50 basement made games

 

[TintoConCasera]

Keep the GAAS initiative, Stop releading SP games..Brokies can't afford anything more than $0.50 basement made games

Is Helldivers 2 a $0.50 game?

 

[ConkerTheSquirrel.]

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[ConkerTheSquirrel.]

nobody asked for this game

I'll save my money for Lego Forspoken

of course.
Hermen really thinks that borizon gets so much love? especially on pc? lol
And at 70$ for a lego game?
I mean, it looks kinda fun and then lego aloy can't fucking stop squeeking and speaking

 

[Danny22]

Really? Not a SINGLE comment has mentioned that, unlike the other Lego games,this one's banned in the majority of the world like all other Sony games. They've made people so used to this insanity that it's not even in the minds of hardcore.

And yes, by my calculations, roughly half of sales (and ccu) get cut off due to Sony's self-ban. Steam is a worldwide platform heavily used in developing countries unlike consoles which are primarily for developed regions. But with that said, this game would have still flopped with double CCU though.

 

[Codes 208]

It was a cool concept and practice, but a mid ip to cross-over.

Too bad theres not a lego elden ring or lego zelda so this game couldve been dunked on a third time.