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New report says PC games are outselling console games, calling PC gaming a 'bright spot' in a troubled industry
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It will if Sony don't clip it's wings like it did PS4.
PS5 is over 70 million as we speak & should hit 100 million after the next 2 holiday seasons & creep somewhere close to PS4 numbers in its twilight years
TheUndeadGamer
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Yes it is. Steam Deck LCD is cheaper than a PS5 and Series X. If you're not talking handheld than yes you're right.
vaibhavpisal
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Shareholders most likely. They don't want to subsidise console hardware anymore. In which case both companies are preparing to sell less no of systems. So PC it is, to still have a sizeable install base.
It makes sense too. Smartphone sell a lot without subsidies. Same for PCs. If console is valuable to people, it should also sell without subsidies.
LavitzSlambert
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I'm with you bud. It seems like corporate greed has made its way into PC gaming, it became very easy with resources like PCPP and every kid wants to be a professional streamer now. But is there really any big advantage when all these high end PCs can do is run poorly performing ports on overpriced hardware? There are very, very few PC exclusives nowadays.
Why compare that low spec handheld as the entry point vs a PS5 or Series X? When you compare to consoles why not compare to a Switch or Series S?
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
not to mention the various budget laptops and PCs around
S0ULZB0URNE
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Yeah if they wait longer to release PS6 and still support 5 a year or two afterwards.
PS5 really has at least 4 years left in it unless cheap gaming PCs flood the market & grab the young kids up who the twilight years PS5 would have been perfect for.
Burger King
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They forgot to mention "free online"
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Don't worry, mobiles and PCs will sustain the industry.
Pandawan
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This is only the begginig. PS5 is still selling on inertia, but we now know Sony went the same path as XBOX. Sony too releases all thie games on PC too now.
There is not much point in getting PS6 over PC. So yeah i seems like in 10 year consoles will be just devices to play your PC games on TV. And Nintendo cosoles to play Nintendo games. Ultraconservative Nintendo is mentally stuck in 1980th and it helps them not fall for this selfdestructing shit of abandoning exclusives.
There is not much point in getting PS6 over PC. So yeah i seems like in 10 year consoles will be just devices to play your PC games on TV. And Nintendo cosoles to play Nintendo games. Ultraconservative Nintendo is mentally stuck in 1980th and it helps them not fall for this selfdestructing shit of abandoning exclusives.
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freemandos
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That's what I'm thinking, that narrative so insisted by journalists and some companies in the seventh gen. Of course it was more a convenience than a real fact. There were problems in that gen, but far from a "death" and not exclusive of PC.
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DenchDeckard
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I think the writing has been on the wall for this entire generation that younger audiences are buying gaming PC's and passing up on consoles. The console market is shrinking and PC gaming is growing. This will continue. It's basically us old farts that are buying high end consoles and even many of us are moving to PC if they were just exclusive console players.
I know there are millions of us who have gamed on all platforms, for probably all of our lives. It seems that younger audiences just want a PC and Roblox / fortnite etc.
I know there are millions of us who have gamed on all platforms, for probably all of our lives. It seems that younger audiences just want a PC and Roblox / fortnite etc.
Wildebeest
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It's kids playing Roblox, not you gray beard grognards buying a 4090 to play a very slightly visually upgraded version of Last of Us on your sofa.
pudel
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I dont see that negative. Kids being in front of a PC is better than in front of a console. They can game and even learn a thing or two how tech works under the hood. Win Win!
BlackTron
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I believe easily that PC is growing while console is shrinking on an # of users basis, while consoles still bring in more money.
Think critically for a moment. People have been talking up saving money on PC games for years...yet cannot reconcile these figures as being compatible.
Think critically for a moment. People have been talking up saving money on PC games for years...yet cannot reconcile these figures as being compatible.
DenchDeckard
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I completely agree, thats why my kids have had awesome PCs from a young age. They can do school work and then game.
My son, still likes his Xbox (i tried to get him into PS5) but my daughter who is 12 has no interest in consoles at all. Its all steam and horror games she watches Cory X Kenshin play.
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BacklashWave534
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With SteamOS releasing soon plug and play will be an option for PC as well. Also like to throw in the fact that we don't have to rebuy are games every new generation. Stuff from the mid 90s still tends to run fine on Windows 11.
TrebleShot
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Steam OS and Nvidia? haha
BacklashWave534
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Don't see why not. If they want to be competitive they will need Nvidia.
darrylgorn
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It's right there in the slides linked in the OP. 53% vs 47% revenue of the non-mobile market.
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rodrigolfp
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That is without including patreon for games on fapnation, f95zone, etc and mods. \o/
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StereoVsn
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This just isn't true:
Even counting from 2021, I do not see any evidence for a 20% revenue increase for PC or console.
GamesIndustry.biz presents… The Year In Numbers 2024
Tis the season to be jolly pouring over pie charts, bar graphs, tables and any other statistics we can throw at you.www.gamesindustry.biz
Another fabricated "report".
How is revenue counted? Does it include hardware? And if so is that for both console and PC?
Also, it would make sense for console revenue to grow more considering games are generally more expensive and all new releases are $70+ (depending on the country) while on PC even launch games usually can be had for 20-30% off.
StereoVsn
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At least in US most people buy phones through the major carriers which absolutely subsidize phones on two or three year plans.
Samsung also gives you huge discounts for trade ins and preorder /BF sales.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
the slides
Zacfoldor
Member
This just isn't true:
Even counting from 2021, I do not see any evidence for a 20% revenue increase for PC or console.
GamesIndustry.biz presents… The Year In Numbers 2024
Tis the season to be jolly pouring over pie charts, bar graphs, tables and any other statistics we can throw at you.
Another fabricated "report".
I agree with you. Seems like whoever generated the data in the OP really wanted to tell a story.
HogIsland
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*chortle* @ "high end consoles"
I've been console + PC since Wolfenstein3D. This is the first time where consoles seem totally redundant. Now that Valve can make a PC that works like a console, Xbox+Playstation games come to PC, I only want to buy games on Steam.
When the SteamOS console inevitably happens, I don't think I'll buy Playstation hardware again.
spookyfish
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What year is it? #19821983
not surprising. It'll never go back either. PC is a much much larger market. Consoles were still leading in revenue because PC has a lot of players who only play free games, or even the same free game, for the last decade. The amount of console gamers not spending any money beyond the console purchase is zero. Even if they only play the same free 2 play game, they still pay for online. But it seems like the gap now is large enough that even with that in mind PC wins, and i only see the gap increasing so i dont think we'll ever see it go back but who knows maybe this year it'll actually do it depending on switch launch titles and gtav, but a year like that is gonna be an outlier in the future and soon not even that is gonna be enough.
Fess
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Yeah maybe. But so far I don't think any sales numbers has shown that going multi is solving much. Might just move players instead of selling more games.
DenchDeckard
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Wolfenstein 3d on pc day 1 too my brother! I hear you!
There are some countries with hundreds of millions of people where everyone owns a smartphone but almost no one a video game console. This is a huge but separate market. Mobile games work fundamentally different than console/PC games. They're more like micro transaction portals with in-shop game.
DownLikeBCPowder
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I understand that first point and agree with you - it's the second that I have trouble with. While it is a "separate market", it also bleeds into PC and console. All that money rolling in for nothing on mobile, combined with market share (despite the aforementioned being true), causes developers to take note and alter their products on PC and console to some degree. Don't you think there is influence?
The demographic is changing, unlike consoles.
S0ULZB0URNE
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No they wouldn't
ResilientBanana
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But the steam numbers! But the 5090 has fake frames!
[Cries in empty pockets]
[Cries in empty pockets]
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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This just isn't true:
Even counting from 2021, I do not see any evidence for a 20% revenue increase for PC or console.
GamesIndustry.biz presents… The Year In Numbers 2024
Tis the season to be jolly pouring over pie charts, bar graphs, tables and any other statistics we can throw at you.
Another fabricated "report".
Thanks for posting this. The article the OP posted is really bullshit then. Both console and PC market are thriving the way I see it. Only thing that may be dragging consoles back this gen a bit is MS who can't seem to get their act together.
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Sgt. Pinback
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I am desperate for a reason to buy a PS5 Pro, because I like new hardware. But, there just isn't one. My PC does absolutely everything I need - and better, cheaper, easier, and with more flexibility and freedom than a fixed spec, locked down console box.
This is the first time this has happened. There's always been a reason to buy a new piece of hardware until now. Compounding the problem is that Sony's hardware and software is now at a price point that I think is exploitative. I don't want to pay $1200AUD for a console, plus another $200AUD for a drive, plus another $100+AUD (minimum) for their 'subscription', plus $120-150AUD for a game. I just don't want to give them that money.
So, unless Sony pulls a rabbit out of a hat for the PS6, I guess that's where I'm at. All of my gaming money will go into the PC platform, unless Nintendo manages to wow me with the Switch 2, in which case, it'll be a 95%-5% split.
The point is - these numbers do not surprise me in the slightest. I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way.
This is the first time this has happened. There's always been a reason to buy a new piece of hardware until now. Compounding the problem is that Sony's hardware and software is now at a price point that I think is exploitative. I don't want to pay $1200AUD for a console, plus another $200AUD for a drive, plus another $100+AUD (minimum) for their 'subscription', plus $120-150AUD for a game. I just don't want to give them that money.
So, unless Sony pulls a rabbit out of a hat for the PS6, I guess that's where I'm at. All of my gaming money will go into the PC platform, unless Nintendo manages to wow me with the Switch 2, in which case, it'll be a 95%-5% split.
The point is - these numbers do not surprise me in the slightest. I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way.