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NPD December 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Xbox 360, All Nintendo Hardware, NSMB Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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It's not better than 360 so it's bad in their eyes.
Roland Deschain
Member
It's not only not better, it's not even half. Hard to spin, even for the masters of spin.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I thought 650k was the max?
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
About the same as '08. Sales were flat from '09 to '11.
CadetMahoney
Member
In cases like this it's better to proxy announce they still beat them worldwide.
Well, 150k lower, but yeah more or less.
They are in the 0-12 month aisle. Apparently kids are never too young for an ipad.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Do we know what Vita numbers were? Did it climb or drop like a rock in the mediterranean?
See the range above. Was ~ flat to November.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Man I am blind. Thanks guys.
AHA-Lambda
Member
God, no software numbers at all? Well this is a disappointing NPD indeed ;_;
Aaron Strife
Banned
They range from bad to worse.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
An additional 12.5k a month ain't much of a change.
Column is up if anyone cares:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...dware_in_2012_Winners_losers_and_retirees.php
I'll post my December estimates in a bit. Sorry.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...dware_in_2012_Winners_losers_and_retirees.php
I'll post my December estimates in a bit. Sorry.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Great article, well done!
'I actually hope that Nintendo ends the retail presence for the Wii this year, since it really needs to focus its resources on the system's successor, the Wii U. However, Nintendo's bundles and price moves at the end of 2012 leave it an open question of whether the company is really done with this system.'
I honestly expect the Wii to be discontinued early 2014 if not before. US are just slightly under 50% of their WW sales now Japan has completely declined almost to death. And it looks like they'll ship 4m WW this year. At that rate they're gonna be lucky to ship 2m WW this year, unless they pull something magical out of the bag it's not gonna overtake PS1, and will barely drag itself over the 100m mark.
What a figure to reach though.
Supermanisdead
Member
So whatever happened to when NPD used to post full numbers? Why are gaming numbers so hard to get when there are dozens of websites dedicated to reporting movie and music sales on a weekly basis :s
RumblingRosco
Member
Thanks jvm, it's a good read.
BishopLamont
Banned
Good article jvm, thanks. I've always believed PS3/360 prices were always the biggest factor in userbase expansion. It was clear that once Wii support dropped off there was nowhere to go but up for the other two consoles. Its just a shame that Nintendo didn't come more prepared for the Wii U after leaving the Wii to dwindle for so long. I think they're just gouging reception for the Wii U at this point and they're more concerned for the upcoming generation against the PS4/720. Either way, Nintendo will do all they can regarding the Wii U, its far too early to predict anything, and besides NOE, the Wii U has been doing decently. Europe has always been the slowest to adopt new trends/hardware anyway, so its not surprising to see the most expensive console launch to low fan fare.
One thing for sure, Nintendo needs to have day and date launches of multiplatform games with the Wii U. Another generation of "Nintendo games only console" is not gonna help them one bit, especially when the system is now capable of receiving such ports.
One thing for sure, Nintendo needs to have day and date launches of multiplatform games with the Wii U. Another generation of "Nintendo games only console" is not gonna help them one bit, especially when the system is now capable of receiving such ports.
IIRC, it's US where brand new hardware trends are adopted slower. Europe is quicker actually.
BishopLamont
Banned
Aye, I remember Iwata talking bout the adoption rates for all the regions and IIRC it was Europe? Either way, both regions are pretty slow to adopt new trends.
Also just to add, Nintendo moved a combined 2.6M of hardware this December, thats more than even last years December. They're not as doomed as people make it out to be, but there's still plenty of work to be done, especially with the Wii U. But I know of all things, its Nintendo's first party efforts on home consoles that are the most effective, I simply can't wait to see what Nintendo has scheduled for the console.
i fully expect them to have wiimini available world wide. they will probably not market it seriously but for the lower price segment it will be there
I'd be amazed if they bothered wasting their time for what will be 1 - 2 mill units. Natural decline will see 50% shaved off this year, let alone PS4, 720, Cheaper WiiU, Cheaper PS3 and 360. They're just the final nails in the coffin, the thing has just catapulted to its grave.
Reminds me of that banned Xbox advert.
BishopLamont
Banned
Yeah far too late for this to come out at this point. Just more brand confusion than its worth tbh.
BishopLamont
Banned
PSP is long gone. RIP.Both Wii and DS are Retirees but they sold more than VITA, the new kid, for the full year.
And PSP is not even counted as Retiree?
Not official. My personal estimates. Rounded to nearest multiple of 5K (for figures less than a million) and 10K (for figures greater than a million).
Xbox 360 = 1,400,000
3DS = 1,250,000
PS3 = 635,000
Wii = 470,000
NDS = 470,000
Wii U = 465,000
PSV = 250,000
PSP = 45,000
PS2 = 0
If donny2112 finds these acceptable, he can use them for the full-year prediction thread.
If fortune is with us, we can all check for ourselves if/when Nintendo releases 3rd quarter sales figures in the forms of graphs.
Xbox 360 = 1,400,000
3DS = 1,250,000
PS3 = 635,000
Wii = 470,000
NDS = 470,000
Wii U = 465,000
PSV = 250,000
PSP = 45,000
PS2 = 0
If donny2112 finds these acceptable, he can use them for the full-year prediction thread.
Full year PSP < December PSV, at least in my estimates. Even if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm close. Also, PSV only had 11 months... you could round up to a year!Both Wii and DS are Retirees but they sold more than VITA, the new kid, for the full year.
And PSP is not even counted as Retiree?
I also didn't include the PS2.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
way over on ps3
metalslimer
Member
Damn lol and people were saying Sony would do great without the pricedrop.
Neuromancer
Member
Now fixed, I believe. Thanks!
Version 3.0
Member
You're absolutely right, but this is Nintendo we're talking about. Even though releasing the Wii Mini would probably cause more harm than good, they're perfectly capable of making that bad of a decision.
Can you total up your estimates each month to get a YTD for 3DS, 360, PS3, PSV, WII, and WIU? Yep, will be using your estimates for the 2012 results thread.
46.4m as of January 2012. Probably well under PSP for 2012.
Yes. Here we go:Can you total up your estimates each month to get a YTD for 3DS, 360, PS3, PSV, WII, and WIU? Yep, will be using your estimates for the 2012 results thread.
[360] 5.32mm
[PS3] 3.41mm
[PSV] 1.28mm
[WII] 1.96mm
[WIU] 0.890mm
[3DS] 3.64mm
Thanks. Maybe X360 will top that.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
They've already wasted their time creating it, might as well get 1-2 million units from it instead of 0.1-0.2.
Psychotext
Member
You repeat this, but you know deep inside it is simply a bullshit excuse made up by Iwata.
Nice knowing you, Sony!
