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[metalslimer]

I don't feel the two statements are irreconcilable though.

In May 2010 Red Dead Redemption and Super Mario Galaxy killed a lot of things. Here, Borderlands 2 would be the game killing things that aren't itself or Madden.

Except nothing seems to be coming in September that could be killed by it really. In an example of how the mid tier is dead the biggest games coming out around that time are Borderlands and sports games. Then its Resident Evil 6 which I feel won't be affected by Borderlands too much at all.

I guess maybe Epic Mickey 2, but that game has like 700 people working on it and I would be hard pressed not to call that a AAA game.

 

[Kusagari]

As stated in the other thread, Pokemon Conquest on the DS placed 9th in individual SKU.

How?

It's still sold out everywhere!

 

[nhlducks35]

In the same way the PS2 was killing the PS3 in the early days? I think NOA'll discontinue the 3DS this year in America and by the next year they'll have a strong lineup to support the system here. Meanwhile the DS is easy money for the company.

May wanna fix that lol

 

[blazinglazers]

Happy for Dead Island and Techland. Game is pretty unique, I'd love to see a sequel.

 

[dallow_bg]

Fun Fact: Batman and Spider-Man SKUs comprised half of the Top 10 individual SKUs for July.

Also: Only two individual SKUs were 300K or better. No other SKU managed more than 88K.

Man....

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

How is DS killing the 3DS? Is the market for the 3DS the same as the ones buying the DS? People are buying the DS are buying a $100 system in its 8th year and has a bunch of cheap games, not a $170 system in its 2nd year where all the games are full price. Almost two different markets.

 

[Bisnic]

So many old games... wtf.

 

[Ridley327]

Wait, Black Ops above MW3?

If you would have told me at the beginning of this generation that Treyarch would have ended up as the most trusted studio on Call of Duty, reaping the benefits of one of the most successful games in history, I would have slapped the hell out of you.

 

[Mr. B Natural]

Still don't see how it's killing them, especially with the XL coming out this month along with NSMB2. Plus the 3DS went up this month.

It's not killing them but it's not a great thing either. The truth lies between you and the person that you quoted.

And the 3ds should have sky rocketed this month with the anticipation of their heaviest hitter coming out. All those DS sales are, clearly, potential customers (they apparently like nintendo enough to buy something from them) and yet are not buying in on the system that nintendo is investing their money into.

It's the same story sony had with the ps2 and ps3 in the early years of the new system.

 

[bigtroyjon]

I don't feel the two statements are irreconcilable though.

In May 2010 Red Dead Redemption and Super Mario Galaxy killed a lot of things. Here, Borderlands 2 would be the game killing things that aren't itself or Madden.

I probably should have worded that a little better but I agree. More of an observation of the retail market as a whole that a title that won't even be #1 will end up swallowing up a bunch of the sales for the month and affect everything else.

 

[AniHawk]

How?

It's still sold out everywhere!

there was a small restock. i picked one up last month at a best buy. it was the last one.

 

[alfredofroylan]

May wanna fix that lol

Fixed already. But still I think that this'll be the last holiday of the DS here.

 

[randomkid]

I live in the states. Sorry for the negativity, just shocked at that list.

10/10 are Western developed
8/10 have "realistic" art styles
The same 8/10 don't have a very diverse color palette
I need to look at the list again but I don't think there are more than 3 genres represented
Pretty sure all 10/10 are sequels and/or rereleases

Just not a very diverse list. It's no wonder that every game that gets announced looks the same.

It cracks me up how the corresponding Japanese list is almost a perfect inverse.

July's best-selling games

01. [NDS] Pokemon Black/White 2 – 855,502 / 2,474,123
02. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 – 430,185 / NEW
03. [WII] Kirby’s Dream Collection – 131,720 / NEW
04. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV – 121,401 / NEW
05. [PS3] Persona 4 Arena – 117,318 / NEW
06. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb – 116,867 / NEW
07. [3DS] Rune Factory 4 – 107,513 / NEW
08. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry’s Wonderland 3D – 104,850 / 848,817
09. [PSP] Digimon World Reigitize – 103,345 / NEW
10. [3DS] Danball Senki Baku Boost – 96,196 / NEW

Also four genres represented, but no overlap (unless Just Dance is 'rhythm' like Taiko, and not 'party'). 0 Western games, 0 games with realistic graphics, almost all games have varied color palettes and all games are sequels or rereleases.

 

[Kusagari]

there was a small restock. i picked one up last month at a best buy. it was the last one.

Lucky. I've still been unable to find it in stores anywhere here.

 

[linko9]

I'll admit to knowing very little about US sales patterns, but looking at the OP I was fucking taken aback by all those old-ass games in the top 10. It's somehow hilarious to me, though I guess it's actually depressing. Guess I'm too used to looking at JP sales charts.

 

[allan-bh]

Japan top 10 crushing USA Top 10.

Old times are back.

 

[BassForever]

Really glad to hear Conquest is in the individual top 10 again, even if it's under 88k I'm glad the game didn't fall by the way side.

 

[Version 3.0]

DS reached sturation point in Japan a long time ago, here in America the DS is still a cheap and easy gift for the kids.

That's not it. In Japan, the pattern with Nintendo handhelds for a long time now has been that the old one is instantly dead upon the release of the new one (LL/XL models not included).

In the US, it's always been the opposite: the old system hangs around for-freaking-ever. It's because we're cheapskates here. New tech trumps price in Japan, cheap price trumps new tech here.

 

[Petrae]

So many old games... wtf.

Honestly, it's been a slow year for new releases. It's a very back-loaded year, and we *should* see this trend of incumbents and return games to the chart change as the seasons change.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

What were the big releases in July?

Disappointing month.

 

[Frillen]

Yeah, top 10 is depressing.

 

[Kusagari]

I really want to know how low Dead Island's sales are.

I'm just in utter awe at it being in the top 10.

 

[FoneBone]

What were the big releases in July?

Disappointing month.

There were none besides NCAA.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

I'll admit to knowing very little about US sales patterns, but looking at the OP I was fucking taken aback by all those old-ass games in the top 10. It's somehow hilarious to me, though I guess it's actually depressing. Guess I'm too used to looking at JP sales charts.

Part of it is the lack of mainstream new releases. The other part is the stupid combined SKU format NPD is using nowadays.

 

[jvm]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

 

[brumx]

I think Goldeneye was top 10 for 2 years the new gen gamers have nothing on the older gen from N64 and Dreamcast which are mostly done now and on facebook lol.

 

[BassForever]

What were the big releases in July?

Disappointing month.

Define big

NCAA 13
Theaterhythm Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts 3D (released on July 31st wouldn't be tracked I don't think)

That's all I can think of

 

[Petrae]

What were the big releases in July?

Disappointing month.

NCAA Football, and... and...

Ummm... Theatrhythm? (Which sold less than >61K)

 

[Nirolak]

It cracks me up how the corresponding Japanese list is almost a perfect inverse.



Also four genres represented, but no overlap (unless Just Dance is 'rhythm' like Taiko, and not 'party'). 0 Western games, 0 games with realistic graphics, almost all games have varied color palettes and all games are sequels or rereleases.

Japan top 10 crushing USA Top 10.

Old times are back.

I feel this is a good show of what releasing new consoles/handhelds can do for a market when the new platform is the region's favored platform.

 

[terrisus]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

So, yeah, in that case, then:

For what it's worth, reading it as as an increase/decrease in weekly sales month over month would give:

360: Under 205K (which would put the 203K for that given in the OP just within range)
3DS: Over 124K
DS: Over 120K
Wii: Under 76K
PSP+Vita: Under 80K

Didn't get data last month for PS3 unless I missed it... And of course, we never got PSP/Vita separated data.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

So that means 3DS is >124k and DS >120k.
EDIT: Beat. Hopefully we'll be getting clarification.

 

[Guevara]

Thanks NPD for reminding me I still need to finish Batman.

 

[Diablos54]

Sure but it's killing their new system, I mean how short sighted you have to be to not figure this out.

The same thing happened with the GBA and the DS. It takes the U.S. longer than other regions to migrate from one portable to another.

 

[Delusibeta]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

So even the DS figures are a wash. Fun.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Xbox 360: 203K (-26.7%)
Nintendo 3DS: Above 155k
Nintendo DS: Above 150K


what does this mean for the PS3? how many did it sell?

 

[OldJadedGamer]

If you would have told me at the beginning of this generation that Treyarch would have ended up as the most trusted studio on Call of Duty, reaping the benefits of one of the most successful games in history, I would have slapped the hell out of you.

What if they told you that Activision would totally kill off the original dev?

 

[Dalthien]

Didn't get data last month for PS3 unless I missed it... And of course, we never got PSP/Vita separated data.

We know it's less than 148k because it sold less than July/11.

 

[Petrae]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

Thank you so much for getting that clarification.

And, again, thanks to everyone else here who pointed out the weekly average variable.

 

[Nirolak]

Sorry, was making/eating dinner with the family so I'm a bit late.

NPD clarified to me that the comment about NDS and 3DS units compared to last month is meant to be an average per week comparison. I realize y'all already had that inkling, but that's for sure what Anita Frazier meant.

Thanks.

 

[allan-bh]

Didn't get data last month for PS3 unless I missed it..

~190k

 

[A Human Becoming]

So, yeah, in that case, then:




Didn't get data last month for PS3 unless I missed it... And of course, we never got PSP/Vita separated data.

PS3 was ~190k and Vita ~75k according to jvm.

 

[bigtroyjon]

what does this mean for the PS3? how many did it sell?

Sold less than last year which we have in the NPD thread as 148K.

 

[Santiako]

I feel this is a good show of what releasing new consoles/handhelds can do for a market when the new platform is the region's favored platform.

Yeah, I expect (hope) something similar will happen when the next xbox is released in th US.

 

[demosthenes]

Jesus the game industry is really getting hurt.

Amazon, Best Buy, and every other online retailer is tracked in this or no?

 

[bigtroyjon]

Using the Wii weekly numbers and PS3 last year number,

135K<PS3<148K
63K<Wii<76K

 

[clutch.as.it.gets.]

Dead Island still in the top 10

bet those devs are pretty happy

I think Techland deserves the success. Say what you want about Dead Island, but that game is solid. I´m happy for them.

 

[terrisus]

PS3 was ~190k and Vita ~75k according to jvm.

Ah. Well, would put PS3 at less than 152K, Vita at less than 60K, and PSP at less than 20K, or somewhere in those areas, then.

 

[Petrae]

Using the Wii weekly numbers and PS3 last year number,

135K<PS3<140K
63K<Wii<70K

That is correct.

 

[miksar]

Yeah Sony and MS, releasing your new consoles in 2014 is a great idea.

 

[butter_stick]

If I was a publisher I'd be taking a long hard look at these numbers and considering why I should keep making games for this current crop of consoles, rather than focus on PC and mobile phones.