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NPD May 2012 Sales Results [Up4: Max Payne 3, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost Recon]

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
So, naturally this is a crummy month and #9 is not a big deal, but I will eat my crow--Dragon's Dogma has done significantly better in the US and in Japan than I thought it would. The reception of the game was better, the sales were better, the promotional efforts were better. Capcom stated it was a big title for them and it never really felt like it to me. I was wrong.

Of course, it is their most expensive title ever and it probably debuted with lower sales than RE:ORC so maybe the laugh is still on Capcom. But I was wrong.
 

Pranay

Member
I see more potential hardware demand with AC 3 and Bioshock Infinite than with Halo 4.

What halo fan skipped 3, ODST, and Reach but would suddenly want to get Halo 4?

looks miles better and is a numbered game in the series

Except for PC lol

MS, Sony and Nintendo need to get their shit together. NPD tracks only physical increase in sales. Just imagine how much bigger the PC market is in reality with Steam etc...

Subscription based model for MS might work for selling the console before next gen consoles announeced.

and the numbers of software of this month sold on steam @ 50$/60$ will be similar/less to console doing now that my estimation.

Diablo is an exception of cource.
 

Boss Man

Member
So, naturally this is a crummy month and #9 is not a big deal, but I will eat my crow--Dragon's Dogma has done significantly better in the US and in Japan than I thought it would. The reception of the game was better, the sales were better, the promotional efforts were better. Capcom stated it was a big title for them and it never really felt like it to me. I was wrong.

Of course, it is their most expensive title ever and it probably debuted with lower sales than RE:ORC so maybe the laugh is still on Capcom. But I was wrong.
What exactly did you say? I'm not sure that the #9 spot is going to have many sales attached to it.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Seeing the 3DS numbers, I really think it was a fool's folly to give 3DS so little in the upcoming holiday. I don't think NSMB2 wkll be enough. There needs to something with mass appeal.

wat
 

jett

D-Member
So, naturally this is a crummy month and #9 is not a big deal, but I will eat my crow--Dragon's Dogma has done significantly better in the US and in Japan than I thought it would. The reception of the game was better, the sales were better, the promotional efforts were better. Capcom stated it was a big title for them and it never really felt like it to me. I was wrong.

Of course, it is their most expensive title ever and it probably debuted with lower sales than RE:ORC so maybe the laugh is still on Capcom. But I was wrong.

#9 on this slow-ass month is supposed to be good? I wonder if it even broke 100k.
 

MoogPaul

Member
Why do we assume the market is bad for hardware? Couldn't we just as easily assume the market has topped out? These console have been out for ~6 years, longer than most. Whoever wants one most likely has one at this point. I think the market is hungry for a new console. If the Wii U is enough of "something new" is a different story.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
So, naturally this is a crummy month and #9 is not a big deal, but I will eat my crow--Dragon's Dogma has done significantly better in the US and in Japan than I thought it would. The reception of the game was better, the sales were better, the promotional efforts were better. Capcom stated it was a big title for them and it never really felt like it to me. I was wrong.

Of course, it is their most expensive title ever and it probably debuted with lower sales than RE:ORC so maybe the laugh is still on Capcom. But I was wrong.

Uh, I wouldn't feel too bad. #9 in this month isn't anything impressive.
 
I love the hyperbole in this thread. It's the middle of summer, with no huge games, in the 6th and 7th years these consoles have been out. Gaming is fine, it's just a dull period, the blockbusters in the fall, Black Ops 2, Halo 4, and Assassin's Creed 3 will sell like crazy, just like Gears 3, MW3, BF3, and Skyrim last fall. New consoles will also help next year, let's not forget the length of this gen compared to last, and the fact a lot more consoles have sold total than before. There isn't an unlimited number of people to buy consoles.
 

jetjevons

Bish loves my games!
looks miles better and is a numbered game in the series

Someone should really write an analysis about the power of the 'numbered game' vs the side stories or ':xxxion" games in regards to sales. I don't doubt the power of the numbers but it just makes me sad to see a product like the new Hitman debut without a number.
 

UberTag

Member
One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is that Diablo III wasn't the only big winner in gaming in May.

Another little title called Minecraft on Xbox Live Arcade sold TWO MILLION UNITS globally at last count.
 
What would make someone buy a 360/PS3/Wii at this point if they have not bought one in the last six years?

$99 consoles and $20 games, that's what. This gen has done a terrible job of catering to the budget gamer with any quality product. There are a lot of people who can't or won't pay more than that.
 

Glix

Member
NPD says that physical is only 50% or so...

Thats a LOT of sales not being counted.

Is part of the reason Blizz games do so well because they can't really be pirated?
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I really thought that the Wii U being out for about a year before the other two consoles wouldn't be a big advantage for Nintendo.

After looking at these numbers, it may be just the thing Nintendo needs. This generation is dying.
 

kswiston

Member

Looking at this line from the article:

Nirolak's article above said:
That's mostly due to the blockbuster launch of Blizzard's Diablo III. "PC Games sales realized a year over year increase of 230 percent realizing $80 million in sales, which softened the decline in software sales overall," said NPD industry analyst Anita Frazier. "

If the total PC Games market was $80M, then retail sales for Diablo 3 are somewhere under 1.3M.
 

Boss Man

Member
We keep talking about being in the 6th or 7th year and saturation- are software sales reflecting that everyone who wants a system has one? Are they in line with what they were at the end of last generation this time? Or is that a bad question?

I wonder how big of an impact price drops will have. I get the feeling that it'll be significant, but I don't really know.
 

Bruno MB

Member
3DS

May 2011 - 97k
May 2012 - 113.5k

NDS

May 2005 - 57k
May 2006 - 146k
May 2007 - 423k
May 2008 - 452.6k
May 2009 - 633.5k
May 2010 - 383.7K

PSP

May 2005 - 250k
May 2006 - 159.6k
May 2007 - 221k
May 2008 - 182.3k
May 2009 - 100.4k
May 2010 - 59.4k
 

Indyana

Member
I love the hyperbole in this thread. It's the middle of summer, with no huge games, in the 6th and 7th years these consoles have been out. Gaming is fine, it's just a dull period, the blockbusters in the fall, Black Ops 2, Halo 4, and Assassin's Creed 3 will sell like crazy, just like Gears 3, MW3, BF3, and Skyrim last fall. New consoles will also help next year, let's not forget the length of this gen compared to last, and the fact a lot more consoles have sold total than before. There isn't an unlimited number of people to buy consoles.

May is the middle of the spring. Max Payne 3 is quite big too.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Why do we assume the market is bad for hardware? Couldn't we just as easily assume the market has topped out? These console have been out for ~6 years, longer than most. Whoever wants one most likely has one at this point. I think the market is hungry for a new console. If the Wii U is enough of "something new" is a different story.

They're still charging $250 plus for 6-7 year old systems in a poor economy.

Look how long it took for a system to hit even $99 last generation.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Nothing speaks volumes about Nintendo of America's lack of awareness on a lot of things right now than an emulated NES version of Donkey Kong Jr. being priced at $4.99 in 2012.
Even the most diehard Nintendo apologists can't consider that to be a fundamentally sound pricing strategy.

Agreed. I don't think any company overvalues their products more than Nintendo.
 

MoogPaul

Member
I see more potential hardware demand with AC 3 and Bioshock Infinite than with Halo 4.

What halo fan skipped 3, ODST, and Reach but would suddenly want to get Halo 4?

People that paid no attention to the series until it got some of that sweet ass metroid prime talent.
me
 

jetjevons

Bish loves my games!
Looking at this line from the article:



If the total PC Games market was $80M, then retail sales for Diablo 3 are somewhere under 1.3M.

Why buy a retail copy of a game that requires a constant Internet connection to function? Enthusiam and nostalgia I guess.
 

Centurion

Banned
I really thought that the Wii U being out for about a year before the other two consoles wouldn't be a big advantage for Nintendo.

After looking at these numbers, it may be just the thing Nintendo needs. This generation is dying.

Wii U will start out mildly strong (no way near Wii levels), and the drop will be even worse than the Wii's after the first few years.

Nintendo doom and gloom always exists, but I honestly expect it to play out that way.
 
I love the hyperbole in this thread. It's the middle of summer, with no huge games, in the 6th and 7th years these consoles have been out. Gaming is fine, it's just a dull period, the blockbusters in the fall, Black Ops 2, Halo 4, and Assassin's Creed 3 will sell like crazy, just like Gears 3, MW3, BF3, and Skyrim last fall. New consoles will also help next year, let's not forget the length of this gen compared to last, and the fact a lot more consoles have sold total than before. There isn't an unlimited number of people to buy consoles.

Yes. You can look back and see some terrible dead periods in the market - there have been some bad ones in the Japanese market not so far back, but nothing this bad in the US market for many years. So people forget.

It is alarming, though, not that it's such an awful market right now, but how quickly it went bad and how poor the release schedule looks for the foreseeable future.
 
I see more potential hardware demand with AC 3 and Bioshock Infinite than with Halo 4.

What halo fan skipped 3, ODST, and Reach but would suddenly want to get Halo 4?

Understandable, but this is said every time a Halo game is launched, and every time there is a 360 HW bump.

ODST ('09):

August: Xbox 360 - 215,400
September: Xbox 360 - 356,700

Reach ('10):

August: Xbox 360 - 356,700
September: Xbox 360 - 483,989

Granted this is 2012, and we're coming up to the 360's EIGHTH (!) holiday season, but I still think it's a possibility.
 

kswiston

Member
Why buy a retail copy of a game that requires a constant Internet connection to function? Enthusiam and nostalgia I guess.

Yeah, retail is not the main market for D3, but it also puts a hard cap on Max Payne 3 sales.

EDIT: To answer your question, some people either have slow internet connections (<3mbit) or bandwidth caps that make buying a hard copy worth it to avoid a 7-8GB download.
 

jett

D-Member
3DS

May 2011 - 97k
May 2012 - 113.5k

NDS

May 2005 - 57k
May 2006 - 146k
May 2007 - 423k
May 2008 - 452.6k
May 2009 - 633.5k
May 2010 - 383.7K

PSP

May 2005 - 250k
May 2006 - 159.6k
May 2007 - 221k
May 2008 - 182.3k
May 2009 - 100.4k
May 2010 - 59.4k

I guess if anything it's a little early to draw any conclusions regarding the 3DS's fate.
 

squicken

Member
· Total retail spend on the Xbox 360 platform in May (hardware, software and accessories) reached $209 million, the most for any console in the U.S. and more than the spend on the other two current-generation consoles combined. (Source: NPD Group, May 2012)

I haven't followed NPD in a long time but has this been happening for awhile, or is this the first time? That's an absurd factoid to me, given how far the XBOX brand lagged behind once upon a time. Granted, everything is awful and it's just less awful, but the neck stabbing has worked
 

EagleEyes

Member
Man the bombas keep coming for sony lately. Starhawk and Sorcery failed miserably last month and come to think of it I don't think they've had a decent hit the last couple years besides Uncharted 3.
 
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