Cjdamon042
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Ah ok, so I guess in a way it is pretty in-line then, a little better in fact.
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NPD October 2012 Sales Results [Up3: NBA, MoH, NSMB2 + History, Pokemon, RE6]
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Ah ok, so I guess in a way it is pretty in-line then, a little better in fact.
test_account
XP-39C²
How does this compare to New Super Mario Bros? All i can find is that it did around 316k in its first month (May 2006).
It's wrong. NSMB's debut was arounc 270k in two weeks.
test_account
XP-39C²
Oh, was the launch price $34.99? I thought it was $29.99.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
jvm, assuming you're reading this thread, what's your estimate for August Vita sales now that we know it's < 35k?
How can be considered a bomba a game which did better than what Platinum did in its first month?
ZeroGravity
Member
I don't see how in the world you can come to that conclusion.
Going with ports of their console games AGAIN (See PSP) might have something to do with why the Vita is floundering like a fish out of water and why the 3DS (While not selling as as robust as its predecessor) is enjoying healthy sales.
It's still better than the typical 3rd game's launch (I think), though until we get lifetime numbers it'll be too early to tell. Either way, buys them the time they need to develop Gen VI.
It's definitely the games. But people are very ripe to jump on "omg I can take my WiiU traveling and play just on the gamepad" so people don't care about this "console games on portables" thing. They just need good exclusives, which apparently Sony doesn't want to do. I looked at the Vita store yesterday on my PS3 and I found more PSP games I was interested in than Vita games. The games that are there seem to be pretty good but there aren't enough.
Exterminieren
Banned
You have a very strange definition of the word bombed.
Supermanisdead
Member
Nah it didn't bomb at all.
grimshawish
Banned
Company's should just keep their margins low all the time them - am'a'right?
As I say their sales fell, their not going to be fuelled by a price cut at this point.
Keep the price as it is and suck as much profit from the PS3 business as possible before launching the PS4.
Not to say bundles shouldn't still be put out. That would actually be beneficial as Sony can ensure System/Software sales and so the price cut is spread out.
But up front a price cut is unlikely to greatly affect sales in any way, certainly not enough to make up for the price cut.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Yep, there's pretty much no way they're hitting even their revised down 6m projection with these sales.
RE6 Razor's Edge to the rescue...
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Wonder how well a Rock Ruby / Shard Sapphire remake would do. I can't help but feel there isn't the same amount of nostalgia for Gen III as there was for I and II.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
Not really. The story is new, but the pokemon are still the same. we are still Gen V. We are still exploring the Unova Region, even if there are new areas. The new features they added are awesome, but its no they are completely revolutionary.
This game was made by the 3rd Entry/remake team, not the team that makes the new generation of each game. I think you are overestimating the cost/time put into it.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
Isn't Gen III considered one of the worst Generations? I've hear many people say II was the peak of the series.
IndieJones
Member
As someone who has just purchased their first PS3 a month ago (and had a 360 since 2006), I can say that I bought the PS3 specifically that late because I wanted to have a well-established library of exclusive games to pick up at my leisure, rather than buying a system at launch (like the Vita) and having to wait months between compelling games.
Just my personal experience, but if I had the choice between my PS3 at $199 packed with 3 games, and a PS4 at, say, $399, I would have picked the PS3 every time.
Exterminieren
Banned
The headlines are still very much Unova, Team Plasma, etc. It's certainly not to the scale of a new game with new Pokemon, and it doesn't have the inherent nostalgic audience that came to HGSS. This was about the sort of result I was expecting.
Last Hearth
Member
The problem right now is that the US economy (and the world economy) is still in the dumpster.
All the people who are dancing are Sony's grave, just be prepared when all the next gen launches fall flat, a high spiked first month with the hardcore, and then after that cratering because people just shrug/don't care. It of course won't be as bad as the Vita, but they will follow a similar pattern, until the economy improves and people have more disposable income, most of them will buy entertainment in smaller dollars, like games for a console they already have, and not invest in large purchases like a new console.
All the people who are dancing are Sony's grave, just be prepared when all the next gen launches fall flat, a high spiked first month with the hardcore, and then after that cratering because people just shrug/don't care. It of course won't be as bad as the Vita, but they will follow a similar pattern, until the economy improves and people have more disposable income, most of them will buy entertainment in smaller dollars, like games for a console they already have, and not invest in large purchases like a new console.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Apparently a POS is able to sell.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Not to mention the fact that there are more multi-console owners than ever this gen and they have been trained to purchase the 360 version whenever possible due to it receiving the better version in so many cases.
That PS2 momentum did wonders for the bungling of the first 3-4 years of the PS3.
That's easy:
-Capcom releases a universally reviled spinoff to sate the fanbase in ORC; meanwhile, a quality spinoff like Revelations is exclusive to the 3DS and sells quite poorly, relative to expectations
-The first RE6 demo, which was tied to purchases of Dragon's Dogma, was a deeply polarizing one and featured woeful performance issues
-The second demo, while more polished, still features a lot of problems, especially when it comes to relating the nuances of the controls to the player
-And like you mentioned, the unprecedented negative review blitz
Basically, if Capcom could find something wrong to maintain the hype of the game from its announcement, they did it.
electroplankton
Banned
This IS a successful entry; it is showing how a third version can sell much better than usual with slightly more effort. Indeed, in Japan it is selling better than Platinum, and it appaers that is true globally. Black 2 / White 2 is not a new entry, and though quite different from the regular third version, it still the recycle fair.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
It's the B-team recycled entry. It's more comparable to Platinum, Emerald and the remakes than it is new Gen releases.
MightyHedgehog
Member
On the surface, it feels like cash-grab with no confidence in its origins as a smaller scale, tension-filled adventure. Zombies, and scary, creepy things work best when they're not trapped inside of some wannabe epic action movie that cynically lifts shit poorly from better releases it aspires to sell like. When that happens, they become like the terrible, forgettable Resident Evil flicks. Past the surface, it's all due to the low-to-middling quality of the game experience itself, franchise and theme fatigue due to so many releases in a relatively short period of time, and an overwhelming sense that more recent titles' action-filled direction is threatening the series' core identity, losing what made the franchise big in the first place. Mostly, though, the game just isn't good. People blaming poor review averages aren't paying attention to the fact that those are the result of the poor product they're reviewing. Plenty of critical misfires still manage more relative sales success in their launch months than RE6 has.
I'd like to think NSMB2 and NSMBU are the last NSMB games until the end of next generation. They said it themselves that they won't make more than 1 NSMB per system.
There were lots of things working against it for it to finish above 800k. It's done surprisingly well for such a polarizing game.
One per system. Yeah, kind of like COD.
graywolf323
Member
the economy is really bad if Pokemon can't do more than a million
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Precisely. Last year's NBA game also suffered from a delayed NBA season, there was a lot less marketing spend and hype. This year, 2K had the whole bball market to themselves (not even an NBA Jam out), a full NBA season, and the marketing budget to support it. Demand was inflated. Huge numbers.
Skylanders is because of the toys. If it werent for the revenue there, no one would really be paying much attention to it.
And it's not just JD down, look at Mario, Pokemon, etc. The market is contracted. Will new consoles bring everyone back? I think it's a forgone conclusion it wont. Doesnt mean things wont make money, but the traditional players are going to suffer since budgets and teams are still in place to support revenue from this generation. It's going to have to contract. It'll be a few more years before digital sales make up for retail declines to compensate. Fewer games will sell big, though they'll sell even bigger. Etc.
If selling barely over half of what RE5 did in its first month is "OK," then sure.
test_account
XP-39C²
It probably just feels a bit like it because New Super Mario Bros 2 and New Super Mario Bros U are released relatively close to eachother. It will probably take some years before we see another New Super Mario Bros game again.
Exterminieren
Banned
In fairness, sequels not matching up to the sales of originals is hardly a new concept. Pokemon in particular is performing about as you'd expect it to.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Well, he was citing nba and skylanders as sequels growing as an indication everything dandy. So there are a few who aren't. few will get bigger, most will shrink. though the ones who get bigger, are going to get BIGGER. it's just the buying habits now. 'casual gamers' who stayed in console are now 'hit buyers' - they buy, 1-3 titles a year, and they buy them in droves. and you'll see games (in gameplay, graphics, style, etc) and marketing (spend and tactics) coalesce to constantly target these hit buyers since it's the biggest market right now.
NBA 2K: Exective Produced by Jay Z. C'mon.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I expected at least 1+ Million for RE 6. Seems like the reviews really had a negative impact, couple it with the horrible public demo and the damage was already done. Let's hope it teaches Capcom a lesson.
So, people give you reasons and you answer with "Who cares! I'm right!"?