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Xbox has the games. Sony has the sales. How???

drganon

Member
ALl you need to do to understand this is look around GAF, and you see the type of people that make this happen. There is probably no better place on the web to gather the required understanding of how Sony defense force operate
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Felessan

Member
The numbers are indeed ok. But there's also disappointment among fans. Big time.

Two things can be true at the same time.
You can't please everybody, some will be hurt by negligence.
Sony not here for fans, it's here for all players.
And given current circumstances - market shifting to gaas and Sony spreading to non-core genres, old-school core fans bound to get less attention. But it's life, deal with it.

Btw - I'm also a fan and I have no disappointment.
 

Alebrije

Member
Sorry OP buy Sony has more great games than Microsoft at this moment...

People understimates Astrobot (GOTY) , Ronin, Helldivers, Stellar Blade, Silent Hill.

Just Because big names like Sony Santamonica, Naughty Dog, Insomniac and other big developers are still cooking does not.mean there are no games.
 

Shaki12345

Member
You can't please everybody, some will be hurt by negligence.
Sony not here for fans, it's here for all players.
And given current circumstances - market shifting to gaas and Sony spreading to non-core genres, old-school core fans bound to get less attention. But it's life, deal with it.

Btw - I'm also a fan and I have no disappointment.
I understand your feelings. And for sure you're right in that people will be disappointed.

That's why Nintendo has my trust, more than any other company. They have always done their own thing without looking at the "market" or whatever they think makes the most money. The haven't changed course in game making philosophy since day 1.
 
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The Sony fanboying on this forum is exceptional. You would think these were the Official PlayStation Forums.

Sony is doing a bad job. The reception to their State of Play shows are continuously bad and all they do is put themselves before the players. You. But sure, be a cuck and suck it up.
There definitely is a bias towards PlayStation here but it's not blind fanboyism for the most part IMO.

Here's the thing my dude, Microsoft fucked up big time with the Xbox One and they haven't recovered from that. There is multiple reasons why people just don't care about Xbox hardware anymore:
  • Again, the terrible XBO launch
  • Xbox Play Anywhere which means that Xbox literally has no exclusives. NONE. Sony at minimum has timed exclusives, while every single Xbox game comes out on PC day 1. This to me is what actually killed the brand more then anything else.
  • PC is bigger then it's ever been as it's currently the "it" thing with the younger generation. They see their favorite Youtubers and Twitch streamers play on PC and they want to play on PC. This combined with the last point just means why buy a Xbox if you already have something that will play every single Xbox game?
  • Xbox exclusives are all bought for the most part. I do think them going around trying to buy every big company they can definitely hurt their image especially with how Microsoft is viewed from a monopoly standpoint both past and present.
  • While Sony has bought some studios, they still have a lot of homegrown studios and IPs.
  • Xbox has basically given up, and this is evident with stuff like Forza Horizon which is one of their biggest IPs releasing on PS5. Halo and Gears can't be that far behind.
I don't like the direction PlayStation has been going lately, but it's a much better product overall. I say that as a longtime PlayStation and Xbox fan.
 

j0hnnix

Member
Xbox definitely has games.. some are really fun.. but they are playable anywhere. PC has the biggest sales imo.. but in the console market its Sony/Nintendo.
 

Felessan

Member
I understand your feelings. And for sure you're right in that people will be disappointed.

That's why Nintendo has my trust, more than any other company. They have always done their own thing without looking at the "market" or whatever they think makes the most money. The haven't changed course in game making philosophy since day 1.
And Nintendo now 5th biggest game company. Down from 1st 40 years ago.
They are fine, but they cocooned in their niche of "child toys company".
On other hand Sony clearly do want to continue be a market leader so they decide to adapt to changes in reality.
 

Shaki12345

Member
And Nintendo now 5th biggest game company. Down from 1st 40 years ago.
They are fine, but they cocooned in their niche of "child toys company".
On other hand Sony clearly do want to continue be a market leader so they decide to adapt to changes in reality.
Do you think they give a F about being the biggest? Is that how Americans think? Everything has to be big?

Nintendo is by far the most future proof gaming company in the history of the medium. Has by far the best IP's and the most loyal fanbase and respect from industry and fans alike. They don't give a flying F about being on your list. They are extremely healthy.

Nintendo has always made money, even when they had failures. They know exactly what they're doing and they don't need your advice or list in any capacity.
 
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Sooner

Gold Member
The Sony fanboying on this forum is exceptional. You would think these were the Official PlayStation Forums.

Sony is doing a bad job. The reception to their State of Play shows are continuously bad and all they do is put themselves before the players. You. But sure, be a cuck and suck it up.

PS5 has no games.

Unless you count Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, FFVII Rebirth, Helldivers 2, Black Myth Wukong, all multi-platform third-party games and Microsoft first-party games. Those don't count though because Concord.

How are they winning!?!?

Should be illiegal!!
 

HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
You convinced me man. I am so, so stupid and dumb and drunk. Wow, you really opened my eyes.
Present one reasonable, factual post and maybe you have something to talk about. Otherwise, you’re screaming bullshit into a bullhorn hoping to convince someone that you have a clue.
 
What's your point? They do have a few nice exclusives but it pales in comparison to the PS3 and 4 era. And that's what I said. It's ok if you're happy with their ouput. I'm so happy for you. I'm not and lots of others arent. That's just facts.
But what does Xbox have recently?
 

Shaki12345

Member
I said your posts were stupid (and they are).

Your avoidance to my request only solidifies that you aren’t here for a real discussion.
You don't decide what I'm here for. But still, I wish you a very nice day and maybe next time (when your tone had changed) we'll talk again.
 
I am sure you know how to use Google and type in that very same question.
But I want to know what you think Xbox has that rivals those games because you obviously think that Xbox has a better lineup then that recently.

Also which ones of those upcoming games isn’t also releasing on PS5?
 
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HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
You don't decide what I'm here for. But still, I wish you a very nice day and maybe next time (when your tone had changed) we'll talk again.
I know when someone is clearly here to show a bias and ignore reality.

I attack posts like yours because if you were really here to talk truth, you would have done so. Instead, your snarky replies to most of the people quoting you show that this is not your intention.
 
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Zacfoldor

Member
Not even...it's brand power, sony is the apple of gaming, people (casuals) buy because its the popular "safe" brand or default you can say, this gen is literally a perfect example of that when you look at the lineups

Xbox would need a literal exclusive madden, 2k, fortnight, or cod to recover, but as long as both consoles can play these games ps will always sell more by default.
The way it got like that was Xbox was shit for many many years before a few AA games finally started trickling out last year and at the same time they are going multiplat so even those games aren't a temptation as they have hope of seeing PS5. They aren't really noteworthy games though. Starfield.....Hellblade 2......Indy(their only mainstream game that is pretty good). All fine to skip them and nothing will be lost. Games not to skip like BG3 and SH2 and Wukong were not on Xbox day 1 so it is really no surprise why they continue to sell poorly. They lost the console war but it is because they lost many battles not necessary because of their current triage strategy. Too much is currently stacked against them after years of failure after failure, disappointment after disappointment. Last gen was a travesty for Xbox and Xbox games. This gen is better but the market no longer cares.
 
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Shaki12345

Member
But I want to know what you think Xbox has that rivals those games because you obviously think that Xbox has a better lineup then that recently.

Also which ones of those upcoming games isn’t also releasing on PS5?
Seeing as Xbox games come to PS, obviously Xbox doesn't have a better lineup. But Xbox as a console has some benefits PS doesn't. I can repost them if you want.
 

Dorago

Member
Sony sells what Xbox does: COD, Madden, 'Futbol', GTA V, and Fortnite.

Their exclusives are dogshit this gen and have contributed nothing to the overall sales.
 

Shaki12345

Member
Lets see em
Thanks for asking. Was waiting for it. Here we go. And, facts only:

Xbox has advantages over PlayStation. Here are a few:



- day 1 Microsoft games

- backwards compatibility with 2 generations with much improved graphics

- Much better app support and developer mode

- you can use it as a Media Center (Kodi, VLC). This is not possible on PS

- Internet Browser

- Better Deals on the Store compared to PlayStation if you're a GamePass subscriber.

- Xbox Cloud Gaming works great. I play my Series X games in the bedroom on my Xbox One S without any real lag.

- If you like the above you can also get Microsoft Rewards to make your GamePass subscription cheaper.



I play more on Xbox at the moment because I have a huge backlog and most older games simply run and look much better on Xbox. Xbox has VRR with backwards compatibility and A LOT of older games are locked 30 on PS5, while they are 60 and upscaled and filtered on Xbox. Big win if you like older games.



If Sony's backwards compatibility will be as bad with PS6 as it is now, I will buy a new Xbox for sure.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
McDonald’s makes the most money for fast food too. Doesn’t mean they’re offering a good product.
Actually, majority of McDonalds's money comes from real estate franchising. "The food" is just the proxy.

They're literally a franchise/real estate investor first.


Yes, most of McDonald's money comes from its franchisees, who own and operate over 90% of its restaurants worldwide. McDonald's makes money by:

  • Franchising: Allowing franchisees to use the McDonald's brand, systems, and support in exchange for fees and royalties

  • Leasing properties: Leasing properties to franchisees, often at a markup
 
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