kazuyamishima
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Can we laugh at the specs yay or nay?
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CG renders of Switch 2 factory prototypes and full specs have leaked on a Chinese website
BlackTron
Member
The specs say the same Nvidia chip we have always thought and discussed to death already.
Same deal as before, kinda waiting to see how much of this chip Nintendo actually uses. Will probably be limited like last time. But for reference, the chip in there surpasses Steam Deck.
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ThisIsMyDog
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So what about performance, can i sell my ps4 pro now?
Luipadre
Gold Member
Yeah its dogshit. Both sticks still looks awful and it looks just as uncomfortable as the current one...
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah old JoyCons definitely won’t be able to attach. But they’ll likely still be usable.
This is probably the main reason Nintendo is releasing the JoyCon charging station this late in its lifespan. They needed a solution for people.
gunstarhero
Member
Ergonomics-wise, this is a such step backwards now that we have something like the Portal. Hope this is just a fake.
BlackTron
Member
I suspected they might still be compatible wireless but didn't make this connection until now. Yeah the charger's timing really supports that theory.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Give me that pro switch 2! Look at the size. Let's gooooo
Kabelly
Member
ergonimics will not save how hideous this this is. that's why sony won't let you take it outside.
BlackTron
Member
Portal is meant to be a sidekick for your PS that almost never leaves range from the mothership. Switch is a portable handheld for kids and Japanese subways. It's gonna come with something small and you can attach something that makes it look like a Portal if you wish to do so. Be happy we have the option.
Codes 208
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Part of the whole point of joycons is being able to use them as their own standalone controller
Kinda hard to do that with what would essentially be half of an xbox controller
HerjansEagleFeeder
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List of components has been around for at least 4 months now.
gunstarhero
Member
Ergonomics trumps aesthetics in this case - unless you really think you're going to get laid walking around with a Switch 2.ergonimics will not save how hideous this this is. that's why sony won't let you take it outside.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Let people use their old controllers? And leave all that Money on the table?
Little Mac
Gold Member
ergonimics will not save how hideous this this is. that's why sony won't let you take it outside.
But this thing doesn't make 20 year olds think they have arthritis ...
GoldenEye98
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ehhh there is definitely a middle ground here that's better than what nintendo is doing...
Dr.D00p
Member
How enlightening, I feel like I know everything that needs to be known now.
BlackTron
Member
If you read the rest of the thread we conjecture old controllers to still work wirelessly (thus the awkwardly timed con charging dock that appeared from nowhere).
Not exactly an evil move if they updated and improved the attachment design.
gunstarhero
Member
It IS possible to design what you outlined AND make it more comfortable to hold. My guess is this is just Nintendo needing to hold on to the Joycon idea for backwards compatibility. Detachable controllers doesn't make it anymore portable than having them attached. Also - look at the size of this thing, it's huge compared to the original.
Hopefully the back of those new joycons have a bump in the back or something.
Codes 208
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My only complaint is that they could be wider, just by a tad and have some kind curve. But for general function they feel fine enough.
For handheld mode theres a bunch of different grip case options to remedy the form issue.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
We already know the SoC in the Switch 2 though. It's the custom T239 processor from Nvidia (even DF reported on it a year ago). The only remaining detail is the SoC (GPU & CPU) clock speed while docked and portable.
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Xdrive05
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Really nice to see Nintendo lean into "DO THE SAME, BUT MAKE IT BETTER!" for once, when they have a winning predecessor. Hope the price point is reasonable, because that's actually impressive specs for a mainstream gaming handheld. 12GB of fast ram is such a big relative upgrade over the original Switch, where the memory bandwidth was its biggest Achilles heel.
This is feeling like old Nintendo of "our consoles are still competing on tech specs", relative to the form factor. I'm guessing the compromise will come with reduced clocks on the APU for battery life and heat reasons, but with dual fans, maybe they're not even backing off of that so much.
This is weird for Nintendo in a very good way!
This is feeling like old Nintendo of "our consoles are still competing on tech specs", relative to the form factor. I'm guessing the compromise will come with reduced clocks on the APU for battery life and heat reasons, but with dual fans, maybe they're not even backing off of that so much.
This is weird for Nintendo in a very good way!
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Dr.D00p
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It's as powerful as it needs to be in order to feed the faithful with Mario & Zelda rehashes for the next 8yrs.
RodriGames40
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The custom data was real, mfs! 2-4 TFLOPS with LPDDR5X 7500 MT/s and dual cooling system like the Rog Ally, let's fucking go.
Kabelly
Member
the console is supposed to be slick and portable. not console with wings. the console itself is bigger so i think that will help with the ergonimics. plus there's those little humps in the back when you're holding them. the placement of the sticks and buttons is subjective and I've never hated the layout. Plus small joysticks > dpad any day of the week.
efyu_lemonardo
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Past Nintendo consoles were mostly wildly different from each other.
Handhelds, on the other hand, were mostly iterative in their designs.
I guess this is what sells nowadays.
Handhelds, on the other hand, were mostly iterative in their designs.
I guess this is what sells nowadays.
BlackTron
Member
Being huge makes it even more important not to permanently bolt on a large handled gamepad. Also, the simple act of being able to take apart the console makes it more portable. I don't bother doing this with Joycon, but do remove the giant Xbox style controllers and pack them separately (when/if ever called for. I don't have a case for that wide shit lol).
I have two Switch systems, one I usually keep with Joycon and another equipped with an Xbox style (but not the Hori brand). The latter spends most of its time docked and I play 3D games on it with a Pro controller. The "pleb" Switch with Joycon gets used handheld all the time for games that don't need a better controller like RPGs, tactics games and simple 1-2 button platformers. For those games, the bad controllers are actually better just because they make the thing smaller and the bigger one confers no benefit for those games, exactly the type I'm ok killing time on staring at a small screen instead of my TV.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yep, the rail design wasn’t the issue with old joycons, rather the ergonomics, shit dpad and drift.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Do they? I can't find any reference to the chip mentioned in this leak. The naming convention doesn't match anything in the Tegra line.
MisterXDTV
Member
Specs have been known forever
It's a Tegra Ampere T239 (based on T234) . Performance has been compared to the mobile RTX 2050 (that is based on Ampere, NOT Turing)
Only the clock speeds (docked/undocked) are unknown at this point
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Tal Shiar Agent
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This is kinda odd for Nintendo... until you realize that Nintendo considers the Switch a handheld first and not a home console. Then it fits right in with how they do handhelds.
SweetTooth
Gold Member
If true, the is the safest Nintendo has ever been 
I don't blame them though, stick to what works! Any blunder in this climate could run the company to the ground!
I don't blame them though, stick to what works! Any blunder in this climate could run the company to the ground!
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RodriGames40
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Just in case, this is outdated somewhat. These leaks confirm we're getting 120 GB/s or what's the same, LPDDR5X 7500MT/s memory.Specs have been known forever
It's a Tegra Ampere T239 (based on T234) . Performance have been compared to the mobile RTX 2050 (that is based on Ampere NOT Turing)
Only the clock speeds of the SoC are unknown at this point
BlackTron
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GMLX30-R-A1 = Nvidia production part # for T239
Luipadre
Gold Member
If true, the is the safest Nintendo has ever been
I don't blame them though, stick to what works! Any blunder in this climate could run the company to the ground!
This is what everyone wanted from them so it was the best decision
Codes 208
Member
This is the outcome of removing a fully dedicated handheld line in favor of a hybrid system.
I dont blame nintendo, they dont exactly want another wii u or gamecube sales-wise
efyu_lemonardo
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Looks like we're getting mini analog triggers, at least I hope that's what those things are.
Was hoping for wiimote pointer compatibility.
Was hoping for wiimote pointer compatibility.
Physiognomonics
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Never beating graphically intensive PS4 games, even docked, with that memory bandwidth. It's going to on par with PS4 graphics with downscaled PS5 games (which developers also do on PS4 like latest Jedi Survivor BTW).Specs have been known forever
It's a Tegra Ampere T239 (based on T234) . Performance have been compared to the mobile RTX 2050 (that is based on Ampere NOT Turing)
Only the clock speeds of the SoC are unknown at this point
Next Zelda will look like Kena running on PS4 (so it will look great), but you'll never get games as detailed as Horizon Zero Dawn or Killzone SF.
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Moses85
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Codes 208
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Its a budget handheld, people really shouldn’t have expected a system any greater than a steam deck or rog ally
GoldenEye98
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I think it will be able to pull off PS4 level quality (maybe slightly better) when docked.
It won't have the raw performance but will have decent architecture