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[Mr Moose]

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That's not a legit site. That's piracy.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That's not a legit site. That's piracy.

It's legit.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

What’s wrong with used parts?

Long-term problems, and I say this as a guy who usually helps his mates with second-hand builds.

Many problems are not apparent out of the gate, many can be apparent only after you've built your system. Out the top of my head:

1. GPUs that were under heavy load in cofined spaces tend to 'lose' VRAM chips because of the excessive heat in a few months
2. CPUs can be sold with damaged contacts and you will run into random BSODs despite the system posting as usual
3. Second-hand PSUs is just a hazard by itself, I always beg people to never skimp on power supply because it's a lifeline of the entire PC.
4. RAM is usually the safest bit, but second-hand kits might produce compability issues with your second-hand MOBO in XMP. And that's a huge pain where you can spend hours tinkering with MOBO bios, settings and ram calculator. Plus some dies are better than the others and it's usually hard to know ahead what are you getting. Pure lottery.
5. Drives are parts with a quite predictable lifetime too, it's always hard to know how used SSD you're really buying
6. Used cases usually miss a lot of accessories and case fan bearings can be strained, so the result mighty be a pain to build and in the end the system will be simply loud

Even for a seasoned PC builder aftermarket is a minefield, it's easier to buy a new system or a console (maybe even Series X if you lean to more PC-centric genres), that to sort out of these variables.

 

[Mr Moose]

It's legit.

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[rodrigolfp]

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[twilo99]

Long-term problems, and I say this as a guy who usually helps his mates with second-hand builds.

Many problems are not apparent out of the gate, many can be apparent only after you've built your system. Out the top of my head:

1. GPUs that were under heavy load in cofined spaces tend to 'lose' VRAM chips because of the excessive heat in a few months
2. CPUs can be sold with damaged contacts and you will run into random BSODs despite the system posting as usual
3. Second-hand PSUs is just a hazard by itself, I always beg people to never skimp on power supply because it's a lifeline of the entire PC.
4. RAM is usually the safest bit, but second-hand kits might produce compability issues with your second-hand MOBO in XMP. And that's a huge pain where you can spend hours tinkering with MOBO bios, settings and ram calculator. Plus some dies are better than the others and it's usually hard to know ahead what are you getting. Pure lottery.
5. Drives are parts with a quite predictable lifetime too, it's always hard to know how used SSD you're really buying
6. Used cases usually miss a lot of accessories and case fan bearings can be strained, so the result mighty be a pain to build and in the end the system will be simply loud

Even for a seasoned PC builder aftermarket is a minefield, it's easier to buy a new system or a console (maybe even Series X if you lean to more PC-centric genres), that to sour out of these variables.

It’s a numbers game obviously so the more systems you build the more likely you are to run into issues, but I’ve only done 6-7 builds like that, including my own, and I’ve had zero issues.

I’m not talking about every component being used of course, just the ones that make the most sense.

Amazon is great for that since they have a solid return policy on their used/open box parts.

 

[Mr Moose]

If is not, makes no difference. You can get them.

No thanks.

 

[rodrigolfp]

No thanks.

For games that I already paid, I don't care.

Delete that link too, just in case.

 

[saintjules]

I thought this was more interesting.

 

[twilo99]

Except for SSDs and HDDs, nothing.

Yes. Used storage is no go.

Gotta be careful with CPUs as well since the pins are so fragile.

I wouldn’t go for a used PSU either, but they are probably fine for the most part.

 

[Mr Moose]

I thought this was more interesting.

Refurbished GPU.

 

[sachos]

What pisses me off about this kind of videos is that they always jump around a million caveats.
If i had the means to do a video like this i would build 3 different PCs while trying to match every feature. A 700 PC, the minimum cost PC able to BEAT it and a (700+8 years of PS Plus) cost PC.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yes. Used storage is no go.

Gotta be careful with CPUs as well since the pins are so fragile.

I wouldn’t go for a used PSU either, but they are probably fine for the most part.

It's ease to check the pins and PSU is not a problem too.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Video isn't as absolutely terrible as I thought it would be. I'm not trying to defend Linus but it's not nearly as bad/PCMR as I thought it would be. He also wasn't afraid to say that the Pro performs and looks better in some of the titles.

Using completely new parts and using Microcenter (as I can just walk in grab and go) I can build a PC for $710 but it's a 5500/16DDR4/B550/2TB/4060 and won't really match it outside of CPU performance. That's also not including mouse/keyboard/controller/cheap windows which you at least need if you are going to genuinely try to compare "like for like". Which would bring this to at least $800 before tax.

Overall these videos are still stupid but I'm sure they pull in a lot of views.

Second hand parts are necessary.

Stopped right there.

Unfortunately it's not really possible without doing used parts, and I at least appreciate that he actively points out the fact that it's not possible without used parts. They also don't just straight-out pretend that PC is objectively the best choice for every person like a lot of these videos do.

No, but does they add cost of any controller or M+K? Ps5 pro allows you to control the console without any extra components

I'm not going to add views to Linus's video so son't know

He did throw in one of those 8bitdo controllers (surprisingly good for $20) and even the shady $10 windows keys.

 

[Topher]

What’s wrong with used parts?

I’ve build multiple PCs with “used like new”parts from Amazon and some good finds on FB/craigslist and I’ve never had a problem.

Now, if they are doing that they should compare their PC to a used PS5 pro tho, which should be a much a better deal than new anyway…

Usually no warranty outside of the return period, depending on where you are buying, of course. You are taking a greater risk buying used. Either way, it is a bullshit way to compare. As others have pointed out, there will be used Pros available at some point as well. Then what?

 

[Digfox]

One area all these PC vs console videos seem never to state is the running costs. As PCs have gotten more power hungry it means you're paying more for electricity. And in the UK that difference in electricity cost can potentially offset PlayStation Plus Essential.

I generally don't watch these videos, particularly that one above where they advocated pirating Windows, because they are (mostly) low-quality clickbait content.

I have a PC, a Steam Deck and just took delivery of the PS5 Pro which cost me £400 after trading in the old PS5. It does certain things better than PC; less cheating, no terrible storefronts, no kernal-level DRM/anti cheat programs, better HDR etc. etc. And I do enjoy playing a lot of games on it. Also happen to love my PC or Steam Deck which do things the PS5 cannot. There are valid reasons for why I haven't gone 'all in' on PC-only in my mind and I can see arguments for both.

 

[Topher]

It's never the other way around though, is it? How do you buy a PS5 that can beat a PC? There is none. Because the games displayed represent 1% of PS5's game library and 0,0001% of PC's game library. Where are the costs for paid online, disc drive (which is mandatory for console gaming) stick drift controllers and overpriced console games factored in? Nobody thinks the consoles are expensive in isolation. It's when you add in the added costs on top of the extremely limited choices and game library that the issues arise.

It's a shit comparison and it doesn't take into consideration the actual benefits of having a PC over a PS5 Pro. The PS5 Pro is primarily for PS5 owners who love its games and services and want the absolute best of that. It's not for PC gamers.

That's a point I've made before. It is difficult to build a PC at the same price that you can buy a console, but it is impossible to buy a console that is as powerful as a PC can be.

Couple of points though. 1) Why do you say disc drive is mandatory for console gaming? 2) Paid online isn't necessarily a factor. Less than 50 million PS gamers, out of the 100+ million install base, actually pay for online.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

That's a point I've made before. It is difficult to build a PC at the same price that you can buy a console, but it is impossible to buy a console that is as powerful as a PC can be.

Couple of points though. 1) Why do you say disc drive is mandatory for console gaming? 2) Paid online isn't necessarily a factor. Less than 50 million PS gamers, out of the 100+ million install base, actually pay for online.

People love to believe that digital doesn't exist on console, and that PS+/XBL is 100% necessary even though the biggest games online don't require paid online on console (Fortnite/Apex/Warzone/etc).

 

[Bojji]

Let me guess, dead end platform with substandard parts bolted on?

Dead end? You can still upgrade to 5700X3D/5800X3D, that's better than being stuck on 2019 Zen 2 until 2028.

You have fully functional PC for 17% more money. GPU alone is like ~20% better, CPU at least that.

Add mouse and keyboard for few Euro and you are good to go. Wimdows can be used for free. Gamepad is optional - same for wifi7, I use my PS5 wired for full 1Gb/s transfer.

 

[Rudius]

Second hand parts are necessary.

Stopped right there.

I stopped reading the tread right at this post. Came back just to say that lol.

 

[Mr Moose]

Dead end? You can still upgrade to 5700X3D/5800X3D, that's better than being stuck on 2019 Zen 2 until 2028.

You have fully functional PC for 17% more money. GPU alone is like ~20% better, CPU at least that.

Add mouse and keyboard for few Euro and you are good to go. Wimdows can be used for free. Gamepad is optional - same for wifi7, I use my PS5 wired for full 1Gb/s transfer.

That motherboard looks older than me.

 

[rodrigolfp]

1) Why do you say disc drive is mandatory for console gaming? 2) Paid online isn't necessarily a factor.

Because on PC every game can have a digital version, including my own physical purchased games. Paid online is a factor for games that have online portion that you paid for included.

 

[Bojji]

That motherboard looks older than me.

It works and gets the job done.

 

[Topher]

Because on PC every game can have a digital version, including my own physical purchased games. Paid online is a factor for games that have online portion that you paid for included.

What games on console don't have a digital version? Again, majority of PS gamers don't pay for online so it isn't always a factor. Not saying it isn't at all, but there is caveat that needs to be stated.

 

[Klosshufvud]

That's a point I've made before. It is difficult to build a PC at the same price that you can buy a console, but it is impossible to buy a console that is as powerful as a PC can be.

Couple of points though. 1) Why do you say disc drive is mandatory for console gaming? 2) Paid online isn't necessarily a factor. Less than 50 million PS gamers, out of the 100+ million install base, actually pay for online.

Disc drive is mandatory because 1, the digital options are limited to just one store and games are obscenely overpriced there most of the time. 2, Unlike PC where you can find most games digitally somehow, the same is not true for PS4-PS5. A lot of games are geniunely easier to find physical than digital. A lot of games get taken down.

I absolutely think any modern device should be capable of online play and said online play should not be some upper class privilegied walled garden sort of deal. Online communication is such a basic concept of our every day lives. Meanwhile these console manufacturers are still pretending it's 2001 and it's somehow a special privilegie to be hooked up on a peer-to-peer connection. A lot of games these days derive most of their value from their online modes. The most popular PS5 games are in fact online centric.

 

[TintoConCasera]

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Just my 2 cents but, if a game is not being sold anywhere, you are free to download it from wherever.

It's not piracy when the software has become abandonware

 

[twilo99]

As others have pointed out, there will be used Pros available at some point as well. Then what?

That’s when they should be doing this comparison.

We’ve already covered this in multiple threads, no matter what you do you can’t match the PS5 pro price, the PC is always going to be around ~$200 more, but that’s the whole point.. for only $200 extra you are getting a more up to date gaming machine that is infinitely more versatile and can be upgraded further down the road.

The important bit his is that the price point of the PS5 pro is high enough to where a PC becomes a real alternative.

 

[Mr Moose]

Just my 2 cents but, if a game is not being sold anywhere, you are free to download it from wherever.

It's not piracy when the software has become abandonware

Not sure the legality of that, but I wouldn't just trust some random site with game files, could've been modified or have some nasty extras.

 

[Topher]

Disc drive is mandatory because 1, the digital options are limited to just one store and games are obscenely overpriced there most of the time. 2, Unlike PC where you can find most games digitally somehow, the same is not true for PS4-PS5. A lot of games are geniunely easier to find physical than digital. A lot of games get taken down.

I absolutely think any modern device should be capable of online play and said online play should not be some upper class privilegied walled garden sort of deal. Online communication is such a basic concept of our every day lives. Meanwhile these console manufacturers are still pretending it's 2001 and it's somehow a special privilegie to be hooked up on a peer-to-peer connection. A lot of games these days derive most of their value from their online modes. The most popular PS5 games are in fact online centric.

Being limited to one store doesn't make a drive "mandatory". Games get taken down on PC as well. I'm not going to consider piracy a viable option if that is what you mean by "somehow".

I agree with your take on online, but that is still a supplemental factor. Majority of PS gamers don't pay for online.

The important bit his is that the price point of the PS5 pro is high enough to where a PC becomes a real alternative.

I get the price is closer to a viable PC territory, but that still isn't going matter for most. Console gamers are typically still going to be console gamers. These comparisons are mostly academic exercises.

 

[IllegalLemon]

Long-term problems, and I say this as a guy who usually helps his mates with second-hand builds.

Many problems are not apparent out of the gate, many can be apparent only after you've built your system. Out the top of my head:

1. GPUs that were under heavy load in cofined spaces tend to 'lose' VRAM chips because of the excessive heat in a few months
2. CPUs can be sold with damaged contacts and you will run into random BSODs despite the system posting as usual
3. Second-hand PSUs is just a hazard by itself, I always beg people to never skimp on power supply because it's a lifeline of the entire PC.
4. RAM is usually the safest bit, but second-hand kits might produce compability issues with your second-hand MOBO in XMP. And that's a huge pain where you can spend hours tinkering with MOBO bios, settings and ram calculator. Plus some dies are better than the others and it's usually hard to know ahead what are you getting. Pure lottery.
5. Drives are parts with a quite predictable lifetime too, it's always hard to know how used SSD you're really buying
6. Used cases usually miss a lot of accessories and case fan bearings can be strained, so the result mighty be a pain to build and in the end the system will be simply loud

Even for a seasoned PC builder aftermarket is a minefield, it's easier to buy a new system or a console (maybe even Series X if you lean to more PC-centric genres), that to sort out of these variables.

The simplest way one can explain the risk with using used parts (no pun intended), is that one doesn't know what the part was used for prior to being put on sale. Was it used for constant gaming, was it used for transcoding? Those can wear the gpu and cpu after being done time and time again. It's basically playing the lottery and hoping for positive results. A new component will always be better. Ram cells and ssd nand chips also wear off after constant reads & writes from adding, deleting files and software over time.

 

[rodrigolfp]

What games on console don't have a digital version? Again, majority of PS gamers don't pay for online so it isn't always a factor. Not saying it isn't at all, but there is caveat that needs to be stated.

Drive Club, Evolved, Republic... per google. Again, the people not paying for online are missing/wasting money the online features for games that requires online.

 

[Topher]

Drive Club, Evolved, Republic... per google. Again, the people not paying for online are missing/wasting money the online features for games that requires online.

Right....so games that get taken down which affects all platforms. That's fine, but people who don't play online games are not affected.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Not sure the legality of that, but I wouldn't just trust some random site with game files, could've been modified or have some nasty extras.

Both games are on myabandonware.com which to me seems like a trusty site.

That said, always check on places like GOG and the like first. Games that were abandonware a few years ago might not be anymore, specially with so many remasters and remakes are coming out nowadays.

 

[diffusionx]

It's never the other way around though, is it? How do you buy a PS5 that can beat a PC? There is none. Because the games displayed represent 1% of PS5's game library and 0,0001% of PC's game library. Where are the costs for paid online, disc drive (which is mandatory for console gaming) stick drift controllers and overpriced console games factored in? Nobody thinks the consoles are expensive in isolation. It's when you add in the added costs on top of the extremely limited choices and game library that the issues arise.

It's a shit comparison and it doesn't take into consideration the actual benefits of having a PC over a PS5 Pro. The PS5 Pro is primarily for PS5 owners who love its games and services and want the absolute best of that. It's not for PC gamers.

Right mice and keyboards never break lmao. The price of those components has also not gone up and are definitely not frequently made with cheaper parts that cut corners. And you definitely don't need to deal with stick drifting oin a gamepad if you hook it up to your PC.

And no you don't need a disc drive. And console games these days go on sale at about the same rate and same discount as they do on PC. Like, John on DF was compkaining about the digital price of Crew Motorfest vs. the physical, which was a fair complaint, but if I hop on Steam, it is... $70 right now! Same price as the PS Store. If anything the disc drive gives you a bonus you do not really get on PC these days, that is the ability to access older games for less money without waiting for a sale.

Y'all are living in 2014. PC hardware is not as cheap as it used to be, Steam sales are not as good as they used to be, and console digital libraries are fully developed. Also this meme holds up very well four years later:

 

[rodrigolfp]

Right....so games that get taken down which affects all platforms. That's fine, but people who don't play online games are not affected.

But on PC you can still get them. People that don't play online are wasting money on the online portion of the games that have online locked behind payment.

 

[Topher]

But on PC you can still get them. People that don't play online are wasting money on the online portion of the games that have online locked behind payment.

We talking piracy now? Online functions vary from game to game and a heck of a lot of games they are completely absent. All I'm saying is that online is not an across the board requirement.

 

[rodrigolfp]

We talking piracy now? Online functions vary from game to game and a heck of a lot of games they are completely absent. All I'm saying is that online is not an across the board requirement.

Yes. As stated before, if I paid for the game already I don't care about getting my purchased game that was taken from me elsewhere. All I am saying is that online is a requirement for non F2P online games.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Dead end? You can still upgrade to 5700X3D/5800X3D, that's better than being stuck on 2019 Zen 2 until 2028.

You have fully functional PC for 17% more money. GPU alone is like ~20% better, CPU at least that.

Add mouse and keyboard for few Euro and you are good to go. Wimdows can be used for free. Gamepad is optional - same for wifi7, I use my PS5 wired for full 1Gb/s transfer.

AM4 is being phased out and even with the upgrade path to 5800x3d it's cheaper in some regions to build 7600x platform altogether. Also both the drive and the case are sketchy, mobo is on the lowest-tier obsolete chipset (so RAM and PCI-E lanes are limited), no wifi7, no bt 5.1... Plus box cooling? Really? Oh, and no OS and comparable DualSense controller.

Once again, I'm balls deep into PC ecosystem (Deck, PC tower with 7700x/RTX 4080, Legion 5 Ryzen/RTX laptop), but this PC Master Race thing about 'we can salvage something for that price too!' totally missing the entire point of consoles as the value proposition.

 

[rofif]

If is not, makes no difference. You can get them.

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lol I was under the impression that site was legit too

 

[twilo99]

I get the price is closer to a viable PC territory, but that still isn't going matter for most. Console gamers are typically still going to be console gamers. These comparisons are mostly academic exercises.

Probably the case for the most people yes, but for those "on the fence" about the decision it's good to have some extra information and know what the options are.

As far as fidelity is concerned:

I can build PC that is superior to the PS5 pro in almost every way for around $1000 today.

I can build a PC that is superior to the PS5 pro in every way for the same $1000 after RDNA 4 ships.

I CAN"T match the performance per watt of the PS5 pro , at least I don't think it's possible, especially not at that price point.

That's just the reality of the situation...

 

[sachos]

Dead end? You can still upgrade to 5700X3D/5800X3D, that's better than being stuck on 2019 Zen 2 until 2028.

You have fully functional PC for 17% more money. GPU alone is like ~20% better, CPU at least that.

Add mouse and keyboard for few Euro and you are good to go. Wimdows can be used for free. Gamepad is optional - same for wifi7, I use my PS5 wired for full 1Gb/s transfer.

I think that mobo doesnt support PCIE Gen 4 for SSD no? (it will bottlenecked)

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[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Only the cost of mouse+kb should be included on PC, controller(s) not. Need a drawing?

The DualSense is a big part of the PS5 experience he’s trying to replicate. Need a brain?

 

[Bojji]

AM4 is being phased out and even with the upgrade path to 5800x3d it's cheaper in some regions to build 7600x platform altogether. Also both the drive and the case are sketchy, mobo is on the lowest-tier obsolete chipset (so RAM and PCI-E lanes are limited), no wifi7, no bt 5.1... Plus box cooling? Really? Oh, and no OS and comparable DualSense controller.

Once again, I'm balls deep into PC ecosystem (Deck, PC tower with 7700x/RTX 4080, Legion 5 Ryzen/RTX laptop), but this PC Master Race thing about 'we can salvage something for that price too!' totally missing the entire point of consoles as the value proposition.

You can list small, irrlevelant stuff like that but point is: this PC is stonger than Pro and will allow to play games in higher settings/fps than Pro. For 17% more money.

Dual Sense is shit on PC (without third party software very few games are using it) and completly optional, mouse and keyboard is required controller.

I think that mobo doesnt support PCIE Gen 4 for SSD no? (it will bottlenecked)

ASRock A520M-HVS

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www.asrock.com

No matter, you won't see any difference in games.

 

[DeepEnigma]

What a trash build.

Recommending this to people should be a crime.

 

[twilo99]

It's ease to check the pins and PSU is not a problem too.

True, I just have a thing about used PSU's for no good reason.

If I was to build one

Motherboard - used from Amazon
Case - used
CPU - used
GPU - used
RAM - new
CPU cooler - new
SSD - new
PSU - new (maybe used)

Just a quick glance on amazon and for example I would roll the dice on this without any hesitation



or this

 

[GHG]

Dead end? You can still upgrade to 5700X3D/5800X3D, that's better than being stuck on 2019 Zen 2 until 2028.

You have fully functional PC for 17% more money. GPU alone is like ~20% better, CPU at least that.

Add mouse and keyboard for few Euro and you are good to go. Wimdows can be used for free. Gamepad is optional - same for wifi7, I use my PS5 wired for full 1Gb/s transfer.

Spending close to 1000 euros on PC hardware underpinned by a platform that will no longer be getting updates and uses DDR4 RAM in late 2024 is ill-advised, but you do you, whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better I guess.

 

[Topher]

Probably the case for the most people yes, but for those "on the fence" about the decision it's good to have some extra information and know what the options are.

As far as fidelity is concerned:

I can build PC that is superior to the PS5 pro in almost every way for around $1000 today.

I can build a PC that is superior to the PS5 pro in every way for the same $1000 after RDNA 4 ships.

I CAN"T match the performance per watt of the PS5 pro , at least I don't think it's possible, especially not at that price point.

That's just the reality of the situation...

Pretty much agree with everything you said. Great thing about PC is that is an entirely customized experience. Fact is 1080p is still the preferred resolution which is why the xx60 variety of Nvidia GPUs are so popular. Most folks don't build a PC with consoles as their baseline. But yeah, for those who are contemplating both sides then everything needs to be accounted for.

 

[Bojji]

Spending close to 1000 euros on PC hardware underpinned by a platform that will no longer be getting updates and uses DDR4 RAM in 2024 is ill-advised, but you do you, whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better I guess.

I'm stuck on AM4 as well but I bought it in 2019. 5800X3D is 2x better than PS5 CPU, I don't know what's wrong with it vs castrated Zen 2 in Pro. This is the most powerful CPU you can put in that mobo so upgrade path do exist and this cpu will play games fine until next gen.

 

[twilo99]

Pretty much agree with everything you said. Great thing about PC is that is an entirely customized experience. Fact is 1080p is still the preferred resolution which is why the xx60 variety of Nvidia GPUs are so popular. Most folks don't build a PC with consoles as their baseline. But yeah, for those who are contemplating both sides then everything needs to be accounted for.

Ultimately if you can afford it having both is obviously best case scenario because of the Sony exclusives ... waiting a year or more for those to come to your PC is a deal breaker for many.

 

[twilo99]

Spending close to 1000 euros on PC hardware underpinned by a platform that will no longer be getting updates and uses DDR4 RAM in late 2024 is ill-advised, but you do you, whatever you need to do to make yourself feel better I guess.

Okay... what triggered you this time?