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NPD November 2012 Results [Up6: Black Ops 2, Halo 4, Most Wanted, Assassin's Creed 3]
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gaming_noob
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Need for Speed: Most Wanted only 509k...seems very low for the game.
AdventureRacing
Member
There seems to be a lot of talk about BO2 starting to show a decline in the series but surely having one less week to sell for a series that tends to show very strong legs should affect that somewhat? I still think we will see a decline but not by a great amount.
Similarly halo 4 doesn't seem to have dropped too much considering it launched right next to COD.
Similarly halo 4 doesn't seem to have dropped too much considering it launched right next to COD.
pieatorium
Member
Yeah I thought it would be better than that
AdventureRacing
Member
What sort of ratio do we usually see for black friday sales in terms of total november sales. It seems as though some of the consoles were selling pretty damn poorly outside of black friday. Like PS3 sold twice as much in that period essentially than it did for the rest of the month. The vita sold like 3 times as much. Is that common?
yeah, could be even more. or do you think it didn't even do 4 million worldwide? with 3.2 million in the US, 340k in the UK and ~50k in japan, I should have easily done 400k in the rest of the world. I guess europe alone would easily come up with such a number.
ah okay, I misread your post, sorry!
undu
Member
It looks like so, at least for now (there might be more peaks, if we're highly optimistic).
Although if we go by some commenters in the forum we still have to wait a few more years for data to pile up and become conclusive. :/
hope not. Seem like talented group of people. have them work on something uncharted, GOW, TLOU like. Or maybe VITA GOW.
They definitely have to release a big, really impressive "Next-gen" title. I think the controller gimmick this time around just isn't as compelling as the Wii's and there is nothing special about its launch line-up.
I wonder if that 3.2m includes the Halo 4 console.
grimshawish
Banned
Assuming the rounded figures are reasonably close to their rounding.
Sales Order:
1: PC
2: WiiU
some old figures:
MW2 = 170,000 PC
BLOPS PC < Wii
MW3 < 100k PC
So:
Mario 243k
ZombiU
Scribblenaus
<100k
cod
jd4
nland
mickey
batman
sonic
skylanders
ac3
sing
nfl13
espn
ng3
Anyone know the PAL chartings/historical sales for Europe?
They need to do it before the truly impressive stuff turns up too.
It doesn't seem likely.
Sadly, I think at best Nintendo may match say, Halo 4 or Uncharted or Last of Us, while the developers of these titles are probably working on face melting titles for their next-generation offerings.
There is just no real "Hype" any longer with the Wii U. They really tossed that in the garbage with this E3. At best the release has been underwhelming.
Well here's to hoping they turn things around.
pikmin may be a sign of things. you can see its roots as a gamecube game, but it sure looks pretty. of course, it should have been a god damned launch title, and its delay into q2 2013 doesn't instill me with confidence that nintendo has a ton of other things just waiting in the wings.
it's kinda like the vita where people were just left waiting, and waiting, and waiting. and tear away! and waiting.
Frankfurter
Member
The HW numbers are mostly like expected. I expected slightly worse results for 3DS and Wii U. Wasn't the number given out by Nintendo (400k) covering the same time period as this NPD for Wii U? Of course trackers aren't 100% accurate, but it continues to amaze me that Nintendos own tracker seems to undershoot (can I even use that word in this sense? ^^) the NPD numbers.
Microsoft continues to be strong with the X360. Actually, just looking at those numbers and at the YoY change, I'd say that MS is probably the only one of the three that could wait until 2014 to release its new console.
Concerning Vita. Didn't it do like 160k alone during BF week according to Sony? If so wow...
Concerning Nintendo. They need to get their shit together. Going into Christmas with Paper Mario and Layton was a bad idea, plain and simple. I wonder what they'll have ready for the last few months of 2013.
Edit: Does anybody have the (WW and NA) LTDs for the CoD games? Shipments by Activision are fine if that's the only data that is available.
Microsoft continues to be strong with the X360. Actually, just looking at those numbers and at the YoY change, I'd say that MS is probably the only one of the three that could wait until 2014 to release its new console.
Concerning Vita. Didn't it do like 160k alone during BF week according to Sony? If so wow...
Concerning Nintendo. They need to get their shit together. Going into Christmas with Paper Mario and Layton was a bad idea, plain and simple. I wonder what they'll have ready for the last few months of 2013.
Edit: Does anybody have the (WW and NA) LTDs for the CoD games? Shipments by Activision are fine if that's the only data that is available.
Freezie KO
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This is the most worrying thing. It's a pretty dismal season for 3DS, and Wii has been done for sometime. I was honestly expecting Pikmin 3 to make it out sooner than Q2 since the game should be done.
Then you have studios like Intelligent Systems working on Game and Wario instead of stuff like Advance Wars. I'm just wondering what they're doing over there.
The biggest problem for 3DS has been what Nintendo did to boost its sales during Black Friday: nothing. It's the only platform which had better sales during the three weeks before BF week than on BF week itself. All the other platforms saw big, if not massive increases. They should have done much more...what they're basically doing for December ( bundle 3DS XL + Mario Kart 7, retailers dropping the OG price to 129.99 $).
they probably could, if they dropped the price of their most expensive system to $150 and did the budget thing for a couple years, but boy that'd be a tough ride. i doubt they'd just sit there and let sony build a userbase (and nintendo too for that matter). they should have launched a new console this year though. they would be riding high with the 360 still, and there would have been a nice transition into the next gen.
yeah, vita did well during black friday, poorly for the rest of the month. actually, it should be nearing 1 million systems sold at this point.
who knows what nintendo's doing with the 3ds, but most of their big guns have been exhausted, and all that's left is a new pokemon and a new zelda. zelda doesn't do huge numbers, but it's a consistent 4m-5m seller, and would be a better fit for the holidays than paper mario.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
The worrying thing for Nintendo regarding the 3DS is the only tentpole release they have left really is Pokemon. Animal Crossing might do well, but it's hard to tell when it's been so long.
They've done the Nintendogs thing, the 2D Mario thing, Mario Kart, etc etc, this should have been a big second Christmas for them.
Releasing a couple of Mario games doesn't seem to have worked.
They've done the Nintendogs thing, the 2D Mario thing, Mario Kart, etc etc, this should have been a big second Christmas for them.
Releasing a couple of Mario games doesn't seem to have worked.
the thing that bothers me most about game & wario is that they just fucking made nintendoland and they're both pretty much the same thing. and i know that wii play and wii sports were also the same thing, but wii sports was bundled with every console, and wii play was basically a $10 game when you bought a new controller.
Mario Kart....shit I wonder what kind of second screen tom foolery they will add to the inevitable Wii U version.
grimshawish
Banned
Can see it being a lot of fun.
They don't do much on DS though, but I could see the Assymetric gameplay being the big think with MKU
Freezie KO
Banned
Agreed. It's very redundant. Maybe they think they can get the casual audience with Nintendo Land and actually keep the console out of the closet by trickling out more mini-game collections.
I don't know, but they have enough trouble supporting a single hungry audience on their platforms, let alone two.
I assume he's also referring to the 3DS and Vita.
They make those kind of games because they require low budgets, I'd love Intelligent Systems worked in more ambitious projects too, but no way in hell Nintendo would invest in a game of the budget of as say Uncharted or Last of Us.
Double Dash sequel dammit! The second screen is perfect for it. One player races on the TV, the other guns using the Gamepad with the ability to aim 360 degrees. It would be nothing short of spectacular.
Double Dash is still the best in the series.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No, not bad at all.
People think because it didn't replicate the insanity of the Wii launch that it means it was an instant failure, which is incorrect.
frankie_baby
Member
i suppose from nintendo's point of view all the 3ds sales were profitable whereas it likely cost sony a shit tonne of money to sell those vitas on black friday and the result while infinitely better than they'd done before wasn't spectacular
Snowden's Secret
Banned
No one "gets" it until they've played it. People instantly understood the Wii or Kinect just by looking at them. My girlfriend's "casual" mom didn't understand what I was showing her, thought it was some little kid's tablet, but once she started playing it (especially off-screen play) she thought it was amazing and asked her husband for one for Christmas.
Nintendo needs to literally have Japanese men drive around the county demoing Wii U door to door.
Delusibeta
Banned
What happens if the Xbox 3 launches and does WiiU numbers?
Microsoft will claim it's a fairly successful launch for a new, not-cheap console launch. And they'd be right.
bundled hardware is counted separately, outside of software ranking. going by cream's coment probably this doesn't include hardware bundles. standard < 3m , LE > 243k
plagiarize
Banned
do we know if Nintendo's NSMBU figures includes digital sales of the game? I'm presuming it does (because the attach rate is already pretty crazy high), but it'd be nice to get a break down either way, and that'd give us an idea of the ceiling of sales on the Wii U shop, because I believe NSMBU was the best selling title there in the published charts.
I called it when I said the iPad would obliterate sales this season when going toe to toe with the Wii U.
Working with kids over the years, I was there when they all wanted a DS, then it was the Wii, then the iPod Touch, now it's the iPad. Not a single kid I know has mentioned the Wii U. Anecdotal obviously, but they all can't get enough of the iPad.
Parents also seem to like this, due to the cheap and educational content. I think GAF forgets the bolded part.
Places are sold out of iPad Minis all around me, but I can walk into Best Buy and buy a Wii U.
Just my experience.
Working with kids over the years, I was there when they all wanted a DS, then it was the Wii, then the iPod Touch, now it's the iPad. Not a single kid I know has mentioned the Wii U. Anecdotal obviously, but they all can't get enough of the iPad.
Parents also seem to like this, due to the cheap and educational content. I think GAF forgets the bolded part.
Places are sold out of iPad Minis all around me, but I can walk into Best Buy and buy a Wii U.
Just my experience.
Depends when it launches, how much it costs, how powerful it is, and what software it launches with.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
GT5 did not ship 9 million in the US. Remember, this is an NPD thread.
Link to portable US sales numbers? PD's own site has their numbers for the PSP version of GT at barely a million.
I would like to see proof of the comparable supply levels.
UncleSporky
Member
iPad is popular but the demand is definitely there. It is pretty anecdotal to say not a single kid asks for Wii U when it's #2 or #4 on the list.
hey now.
Man, you really have a thing about GT sales, don't you!
GT: PSP shifted 620,000 copies in the US in the first 3 months so I'd say around a million is probably right. Certainly closer than 3 mill, it's only done 4 million & change worldwide IIRC.
Captain Smoker
Member
Well, the numbers aren't bad.
Obviously my story is anecdotal. You're looking at a sample size of 15.
Your charts are interesting though. How many kids were polled? Those percentage differences seem pretty significant to me, even if demand is there for the Wii U.
I'm not referring only to this month.
frankie_baby
Member
nintendo gave ball park figures for their systems the other week not exact