michaelius
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It wasn't strategy. It was poor excuse to cover all previous methods tried in that time not working.
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NPD Sales Results for December 2014 [Up2: Nintendo Sales Notes]
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It wasn't strategy. It was poor excuse to cover all previous methods tried in that time not working.
anexanhume
Member
Not sure why people are surprised at slow thread. Pretty much as soon as we got November numbers the general consensus became XB1 outselling PS4 in December by a narrower margin with both over 1M. Only real surprise is better than expected WiiU numbers.
Not at all, I enjoy the topic of threads to actually be discussed without people with agenda's against said multi-billion dollar mega corporations coming into play
I have a XB1/PS4/WiiU and they are all just inanimate boxes whose purpose is to entertain me ; )
I actually got my xb1 for this NPD but it was based on insane EB Game trade in promotions that they let me stack (pretty much the console cost me about $75), loving it however
CosmicQueso
Member
C'mon y'all... we're all friends in the NPD thread.
Anyone bring up Skylanders/Infinity/Amiibo yet?
Anyone bring up Skylanders/Infinity/Amiibo yet?
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Do the Lego company get any royalties from the Lego games?
Did AC 4 sell better than ACU in Nobember, December?
I agree there are individual posters with a specific agenda here on NeoGAF, but I think it's unfair to say that they're mostly in one specific camp.
CosmicQueso
Member
Dunno on 1. On 2, impossible to say without knowing digital.
If we're doing this, any info on Guilty Gear Xrd's opening numbers? Find it weird it wasn't included in the exclusives list posted earlier since it's cross-gen but exclusive to Sony like Forza to MS.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I do think at somepoint during the year they must have seen that their intended strategy wasn't working, so they retooled for a two month "strategy."
Um but I think they still are losing in Canada if Aqua's post from the prediction thread were decipherd properly. US is not NA.
And to your point above the Sony threads are just as derailed. Its just means you are on the same page as the people derailing the thread so you don't notice or mind it.
The thing is, MS had no choice. Nothing else was working. Not Titanfall, not bundles, not kinectless SKU, nothing. Hell you could even argue that the two month strategy itself isn't working considering that they lowered the price again...
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Well Disney stated that they were number 1 in the US; Activision stated they were number 1 worldwide.
Duno if you could comment, but do we know how much Marth amiibo sold as a unit? Would love to know how many Ninty produced hahaha
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Thanks.
I think this is a bit high. Max. 10 mil.
MaulerX
Member
CosmicQueso
Member
As far as I'm aware, individual component SKUs are not reported. Only product groups... so like all Skylanders single pack or All Amiibos.
Price is back to $349 starting today.
SuperLeviathan
Member
That's depressing. Especially since the US is the Wii U's best market and the Vita's worst.
from 400$... which mean they are losing 50$ only...
We have no idea have much they are losing, or if they are breaking even...
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Aren't you combining two of their strategies though? Cheaper price point and having most of their major releases during the final months of the year?
Them keeping the $350 price point comes across as the system doing better than they expected at that price.
Still doesn't completely shut down the highly likely possibility that they will have major deals for Holiday 2015. It also doesn't negate the fact that they have many big name games set to release during the same period (which both combined pretty much being "MS' two-three month strategy").
Still LOW for Sunset! Sadly.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Nope not yet. Apart from w/e was in Nintendo's press release about 2.6M Amiibo. Btw, could we add Lego & Just Dance (non-Wii) to that list? I'm curious whether Just Dance has had any significant migration to non-Wii platforms (even the 360 mind you) or whether they're just losing customers left and right.
So, are these the latest LTD numbers we have?:
PS4 18.5 million sold-through 1/05/2015
XB1 almost 10 million sold-in 11/12/2014
That's an important 2 month discrepancy between the two, and the sold-in vs sold-through makes it messy too. I wonder how much of the huge NPD nov/dec for XB1 was stock already sitting in stores. Also wonder how the XB1 price drop impacted sales worldwide.
PS4 18.5 million sold-through 1/05/2015
XB1 almost 10 million sold-in 11/12/2014
That's an important 2 month discrepancy between the two, and the sold-in vs sold-through makes it messy too. I wonder how much of the huge NPD nov/dec for XB1 was stock already sitting in stores. Also wonder how the XB1 price drop impacted sales worldwide.
Or more cynically its because the PS4 was once again outselling them the moment they were at price parity again, if sales at Amazon are any indication.
The reasons I suggested that the "two month" strategy might not be working is because it seemed to me that MS plan was to go for broke in Nov/Dec and then for the rest of the year simply coast through and not have to bleed money on price drops and bundles. The fact that they are once again lowering the price by $50 suggests to me that they had no choice but to do so if they didn't want to be back to square 1 for Holidays 2015 regarding the PS4's lead in the US.
Granted, we will probably never know how much the $50 price drop and the AC bundling cost them, but I'm assuming its not cheap. And if it didn't cost them much or if they still broke even on hardware doing it then nothing I say makes sense.
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. If Microsoft acted this fast though, I'm guessing it felt quite a difference going back to $400 and felt it not wise.
DomsPlaying
Member
Two months in a row for X1, now it's officially a streak! 
Seriously though these numbers are solid for the industry, especially Wii U having its best month ever.
Seriously though these numbers are solid for the industry, especially Wii U having its best month ever.
rokkerkory
Member
I was talking about the price they were putting it.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I commented on it.
Dreamgazer
Member
It has always been...
It wasn't like the PS3 was going to magically close that 10M gap.
Chobel
Member
Wii was until recently the best selling console (of the 7th generation) in US.
Cornbread78
Member
It was as predicted, with better than expected sales for Wii-U and Vita. Everything else fell in line with what was anticipated, so no drama and no surprises....
Dreamgazer
Member
god, I totally forgot the wii existed >.>
CosmicQueso
Member
Don't feel bad. The rest of the market forgot about it years ago.
Welfare
Member
Two months in a row for X1, now it's officially a streak!
Seriously though these numbers are solid for the industry, especially Wii U having its best month ever.
I'm very glad that the Wii U is getting some love.
lightning2k3
Member
Nah, she probably just works in finance.
CosmicQueso
Member
ZING! We got 'em!!
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
42.456mil and 41.871mil
bequietdrive
Member
Pleasantly surprised By Wii U numbers, anyone know what the total worldwide numbers to date are now? Must be around 8.6 mil or so surely?