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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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They have LBP3, Singstar and Guilty Gear left.
We have PR from Sony about digital sales.
CosmicQueso
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Someone earlier in the thread made the excellent point that EA Access likely pushed a bunch of sales to digital thanks to the discount and early access.
Once you apply some reasonable adjustments, assuming that more digital share for ea sports on xone vs ps4 and the numbers make much more sense.
Glorified G
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JetBlackPanda
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More on Destiny. That is Activision's stock. You can clearly see the leadup to Destiny followed by the market reaction since its release. The reason I share this is because I think a lot of people in this thread are engaged in a bit of cognitive dissonance. The line of thought now seems to be "Well, it's not bad. It's even good for a new IP! Yeah!" But if you read the threads, thoughts and consensus prior to the release of Destiny it was night and day. These numbers are bad, nay terrible, compared to what people were expecting. To act like any meaningful chunk of people actually expected this is just disingenuous. People from all walks ranging from random forum poster to multimillion dollar investor/analysts were expecting far more than this. I just find it strange that now people on here are now just instead repeating Activision's marketing lines like this is in any way normal, let alone good!
So stocks are back to where they were a few months before release? lol also the same kind of stock sell off happened when GTAV released, its not a broad picture of how successful a game is.
I have no idea what the expectations for Activision or Bungie were, probably a little more then what actually happened but at the end of the day its still the most played game on each platform and its the most successful new IP of all time. If the userbase can keep at it for the next couple DLC and announcement of Destiny 2 it will be a monster franchise this gen.
Hard to say when we don't have hard numbers.
The Shogun
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More on Destiny. That is Activision's stock. You can clearly see the leadup to Destiny followed by the market reaction since its release. The reason I share this is because I think a lot of people in this thread are engaged in a bit of cognitive dissonance. The line of thought now seems to be "Well, it's not bad. It's even good for a new IP! Yeah!" But if you read the threads, thoughts and consensus prior to the release of Destiny it was night and day. These numbers are bad, nay terrible, compared to what people were expecting. To act like any meaningful chunk of people actually expected this is just disingenuous. People from all walks ranging from random forum poster to multimillion dollar investor/analysts were expecting far more than this. I just find it strange that now people on here are now just instead repeating Activision's marketing lines like this is in any way normal, let alone good!
Is this post a complete joke / sarcasm?
Serious question.
AmaterasuOni
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Indeed, context is everything. If less than 200 million dollars is "unprecedented", then sure. Because that 500 million dollars is a 10-year deal. That includes 3 games and 6 expansions.
SeventhSon
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I don't know who Peter Dinklage is.
TypuyBaran
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Sorry in advance, this is a very long thread. Is there a decent guesstimate as to what numbers Xbox did this month? Meaning September...
Majmun
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He plays Tyrion, one of the lead characters from the Game of Thrones show.
jeffyjaixx
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Do we have any numbers for how many total unbundled Destiny copies were sold?
AmaterasuOni
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He's not Iron Maiden's Eddie, but plays Tyrion in Game of Thrones.
SeventhSon
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ethomaz
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Can you show us the MS PR about digital sales?
BTW PS4 version sold more on Retail... what make you think the PS4 Digital version didn't sell too after record sales?
We have the numbers but tough luck. If you follow NPD enough you should know who gives the numbers and work your way from there.
Edit - or you can quote that guy
Goodacre0081
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I was under the impression Halo has been losing relevance ever since the CoD phenomenon hit. even in my circle of friends who I play Gears3 with on 360, have all shown their distaste for the franchise.
they also have that PS event in December. it's not a game release but it is an opportunity to sell the console.
Disaster Nebraska
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That *Physical disk only part of the "get a free game" deal sure skewed the numbers a bit. So did the Destiny PS4 bundles, which were not included in NPD. So did the digital deal where buying it on PS3 gives you the PS4 copy for free.
But... you know... who reads the OP, right?
SeventhSon
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Ok, I've never seen Game of Thrones.
And UP THE IRONS!
Edit: Google reveals he's this guy!
serversurfer
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What "damage"? Sony moved more copies at retail, despite the fact Microsoft were literally giving the game away.
More people would rather pay to have the game on PS4 than get it for free on the XBone. That's pretty damning.
shouamabane
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PS4 hardware is simply more valuable than Xbox One hardware. The One has potential. It's just going to take more work to sell them.
pokeystaples
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Lol. Check the PR releases.
TypuyBaran
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Thank you...one more question, how are the one sales doing cooperative to 360 at this point in their life cycles?
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300k destiny bundles sold. You really want to talk damage control?
SeventhSon
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You're welcome, and thank Aquamarine.
As you saw, Xbone did well... but was still outdone by PS4 at nearly 2:1 for the month.
Edit: Xbone to 360 comparison - that is discussed in the thread, you'll need to back track a bit if someone else doesn't summarize for you.
YOU MAY NEED TO USE YOUR GAF DECODER RING to get all the information, if you know what I mean.
TypuyBaran
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Can you speak to the edit I made on my other post?
I was thinking Xbone will win November but then I started having doubts:
- Kinda feel like a good chunk of the people interested in MCC already have an Xbone.
- Sony has a GTAV PS4 bundle (which will likely come to the US). GTAV made like $800 million in the first 24 hours. And that can definitely benefit Sony.
- While MCC will be a pretty big deal for Xbone, Advanced Warfare is also coming out which may actually do better than Halo.
MS needs to do a MCC/AW Xbone bundle lol.
October or do you mean November?
Still ahead ~.8m
More on Destiny. That is Activision's stock. You can clearly see the leadup to Destiny followed by the market reaction since its release. The reason I share this is because I think a lot of people in this thread are engaged in a bit of cognitive dissonance. The line of thought now seems to be "Well, it's not bad. It's even good for a new IP! Yeah!" But if you read the threads, thoughts and consensus prior to the release of Destiny it was night and day. These numbers are bad, nay terrible, compared to what people were expecting. To act like any meaningful chunk of people actually expected this is just disingenuous. People from all walks ranging from random forum poster to multimillion dollar investor/analysts were expecting far more than this. I just find it strange that now people on here are now just instead repeating Activision's marketing lines like this is in any way normal, let alone good!
Have you ever looked at Take Two Interactive's stock after a GTA release?
Hint: It drops as well.
TypuyBaran
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I have substantial money in stocks, old adage applies, buy on rumor sell on news... The imagination of investors makes stocks run, sadly news are rarely as good.
Goodacre0081
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I fully expect to see more free games added to the future Xbone bundles. it also might be time to start packing in a year of XBL into these deals too
TypuyBaran
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Xbox is doing fine... Yeah it's no ps4 but I don't understand all this gloom.
Knightmarre
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I know it was already asked but what was the budget for Destiny? Seems you like know.
Chobel
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I think Xbone will win Nov, but it won't be because of MCC, more because It has marketing deals and bundles with the biggest games in the year: ACU and CoD:AW, and I have a feeling that MS will get real aggressive in BF, Xbone bundles and deals will be better than anything we've seen this year.
Sony sure has GTAV marketing deal with PS4, however I think many people are overestimating it.
Sony sure has GTAV marketing deal with PS4, however I think many people are overestimating it.
The problem is they had multiple bundles and deals for months with little effect.
They have to do all of that just to keep up,sure they are doing fine but that's not really whats being discuss here.
More on Destiny. That is Activision's stock. You can clearly see the leadup to Destiny followed by the market reaction since its release. The reason I share this is because I think a lot of people in this thread are engaged in a bit of cognitive dissonance. The line of thought now seems to be "Well, it's not bad. It's even good for a new IP! Yeah!" But if you read the threads, thoughts and consensus prior to the release of Destiny it was night and day. These numbers are bad, nay terrible, compared to what people were expecting. To act like any meaningful chunk of people actually expected this is just disingenuous. People from all walks ranging from random forum poster to multimillion dollar investor/analysts were expecting far more than this. I just find it strange that now people on here are now just instead repeating Activision's marketing lines like this is in any way normal, let alone good!
There was an entire thread discussing this. The stock price has nothing to do with Destiny. The price of the stock was overvalued and Activisision announced the cancellation of Titan, their next WoW, and CoD preorders were down significantly.
Destiny is a success, whatever way you want to spin it.
I'm not going to take the time to screencap Take Two's stock to prove you wrong. Anybody who'd like to do so simply google for TTWO stock graph - GTA 5 released on September 17 2013.
What's happening to Activision is not normal. It's caused by relatively extreme disappointment at results. What I find simply strange is that in lieu of acknowledging this the general consensus in here seems to be to try to claim not only were these results expected, they're actually even good. It's bizarro world for objectivity. I imagine most people who are surprised are simply worried of looking stupid due to the relatively large crowd of "Well duh of course it only hit 3million. Woohoo, awesome for a new IP!"
Sale wise? No, because Halo 4 sold over 10 million copies. Fastest selling Halo game, I think.
maquiladora
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Great point.
I don't think anyone, including Activision, is guilty of moving goalposts in this case. Having the best-selling new IP speaks for itself, and citing the often fickle reactions of investors immediately following a stock buildup doesn't suggest much positively or negatively.
No one cares about Sunset Overdrive. I bet LBP3 posts higher numbers in North America and I don't think that will be much more than a blip on the radar itself.
After this result, I don't see how anyone is banking on MCC to win November for XB1. Sony is going to do 1000k in November regardless of Halo.
The cancellation of Titan and similar issues came quite some time after the stock started nose diving - which happened nearly immediately following Destiny's release. Incidentally here's an interesting article from the Motley Fool: Is Activision Blizzard's $500million Destiny a $1.5billion Mistake?
That article was published literally the day before the cancellation of Titan was announced. Incidentally the stock has fallen way more since that article was published. Some of that as you mention though is certainly not just Destiny but also Activisions other failings as of late.
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