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Steam reached new concurrent users record (39.19m)

DenchDeckard

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PC growing healthily while the console landscape collapses. Kinda sadge.

I mean, its great to see PC growing but seeing the overall next gen console TAM shrink is sad.
 
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I don't think anyone is interested to play Indiana Jones in first person with melee combat being the main focus in gameplay.
Really, that's what the game is? I hadn't followed it at all, but it seems just copying uncharted, 3rd person adventure, puzzle solving, and light combat would have been a easy call.
 

Edder1

Member
Really, that's what the game is? I hadn't followed it at all, but it seems just copying uncharted, 3rd person adventure, puzzle solving, and light combat would have been a easy call.
Yeah, they went with first person melee combat and puzzle solving, but there obviously isn't a big audience interested in playing Indiana Jones with that type of gameplay. I think everyone expected it to be like Uncharted when it was initially announced. It's probably safe to say we won't be seeing Indiana in videogames anytime soon.
 
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Yeah, they went with first person melee combat and puzzle solving, but there obviously isn't a big audience interested in playing Indiana Jones with that type of gameplay. I think everyone expected it to be like Uncharted when it was initially announced. It's probably safe to say we won't be seeing Indiana in videogames anytime soon.
Melee combat in first person is just DOA for me for any game, it's the reason I can't get into any of the Elder Scroll games.
 

Edder1

Member
Melee combat in first person is just DOA for me for any game, it's the reason I can't get into any of the Elder Scroll games.
Melee combat focused gameplay rarely results in successful games, unless these games are massive RPGs like Elder Scrolls or Kingdom Come. The reason why it works in those games is because those games offer a lot of deep RPG mechanics that make gamers overlook weak melee combat and stealth. Some really bad decisions were made with this game. Also, Indiana IP just doesn't have the pull anymore they thought it does.
 
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I wonder if are more or less then playstation 5 alone
Way less. In 2020 Steam had 20mil concurrents and 120mil monthly active users. PS5 doesn't even have half that many PS5s sold let alone PS5 users that are active monthly, for example I'm a PS5 owner but I haven't turned on my PS5 in a few months. So yes Steam has outgrown current gen consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series) in size.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Way less. In 2020 Steam had 20mil concurrents and 120mil monthly active users. PS5 doesn't even have half that many PS5s sold let alone PS5 users that are active monthly, for example I'm a PS5 owner but I haven't turned on my PS5 in a few months. So yes Steam has outgrown current gen consoles (PS5 and Xbox Series) in size.
yah. The current collective MAU across the entire PSN players (PS3, PS4, PS5, Vita) right now is at 116m, which is still lesser than Steam’s 120m from 4 years ago.
 

Cakeboxer

Member
Really need to stop projecting Xbox's woes on to the rest of consoles
Xbox disappearaing doesn't mean all Xbox owers switch to PS or Switch. Many will go Pc, especially Game Pass lovers. And with Nintendo's success-failurue-success-failure runs another failure is not completely impossible.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Xbox disappearaing doesn't mean all Xbox owers switch to PS or Switch. Many will go Pc, especially Game Pass lovers. And with Nintendo's success-failurue-success-failure runs another failure is not completely impossible.

Plenty of previously Xbox console gamers will remain console gamers as well. Either way, PlayStation and Switch are not collapsing. This narrative that since Xbox isn't doing well means all consoles are not doing well is false.
 
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Cakeboxer

Member
Plenty of previously Xbox console gamers will remain console gamers as well. Either way, PlayStation and Switch are not collapsing. This narrative that since Xbox isn't doing well means all consoles are not doing well is false.
A dying Xbox means less console players and more pc players. Not saying it's threatening console existence.
 

GHG

Member
A dying Xbox means less console players and more pc players. Not saying it's threatening console existence.

Console gaming is not shrinking though.

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MarV0

Member
yah. The current collective MAU across the entire PSN players (PS3, PS4, PS5, Vita) right now is at 116m, which is still lesser than Steam’s 120m from 4 years ago.
The last official Steam MAU is 132m in 2021.

Since Helldivers 2 PSN MAU includes PC gamers so the metric cannot be trusted anymore to measure how the Playstation consoles are doing.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
Didn't say that. but Pc also gets new gamers. All i said is that with a dead Xbox consoles lose and pc gains players.

If Xbox were to die then PC, PlayStation and Switch all stand to gain players. You are really trying way too hard to frame this as "PC vs console" (zero-sum game) when you know very well it is more complex than that.
 
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Cakeboxer

Member
If Xbox were to die then PC, PlayStation and Switch all stand to gain players. You really trying way too hard to frame this as "PC vs console" (zero-sum game) when you know very well it is more complex than that.

GHG GHG 's post addresses this much more thoroughly in showing that the console market continues to grow.
Yes, with a dead Xbox Pc + PS + Nintendo will all gain players. That's right, but that also means consoles in general will lose some players, because of that event. Didn't want to say consoles are in decline, will die, not grow or anything like that. I just meant, the short term consequence of a dead Xbox is more pc player and less console players. End of story.
 
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HogIsland

Member
This, and that's only since I got a Steam Deck a year ago. I played this year more than in the last 5 years combined.

Fallout 4 - 60hrs
Yakuza Like a Dragon - 60hrs
Witcher 3 + DLC - 120hrs
BG3 - 110hrs and counting
I've barely used my PS5 since Steam Deck came out. I've got a gaming laptop and a desktop in the living room. No console can touch this.
 

MMaRsu

Member
Wait, I thought the reception to this game was pretty good, what happened? Or are the gaming public just shunning Lucasfilm ips now?

The fanboys are trying to hardest to downplay the game, constantly say it's a failure etc.

All because it's coming from an Xbox aligned dev.

Fucking pathetic.
 

MMaRsu

Member
Yeah, they went with first person melee combat and puzzle solving, but there obviously isn't a big audience interested in playing Indiana Jones with that type of gameplay. I think everyone expected it to be like Uncharted when it was initially announced. It's probably safe to say we won't be seeing Indiana in videogames anytime soon.

Lmao. We should be glad it's not an Uncharted clone, and is instead a Deus Ex/Dishonored kinda game.

Uncharted Collection on PC didn't set the charts on fire.

So why would an Uncharted game be more succesful exactly?
 

Topher

Identifies as young
I don't want that too, just being realistic.

As long as there is demand for local gaming then businesses will sell that product even if it is only at an enthusiast level. Vinyl records are still a thing for that very reason.

But....getting off topic so I'll leave it there.
 
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Topher

Identifies as young
The fanboys are trying to hardest to downplay the game, constantly say it's a failure etc.

All because it's coming from an Xbox aligned dev.

Fucking pathetic.

Uncharted Collection on PC didn't set the charts on fire.

Uncharted's peak numbers are not that far off from Indiana's though (10.8k vs 12.1k). That very well could change this weekend but at this point if we are going to say one isn't setting the "charts on fire" then that applies to the other as well.
 
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