Assassin’s Creed: Shadows Day One Patch will make certain shrine objects indestructible and eliminate civilian NPC bloodshed

Saber

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I never saw AC games as being historically accurate but I've always seen them as being somewhat set in reality and being all about peaking the players' curiosity about the real stuff.

It's no wonder there are some cultural stuff that happen to start using AssCreed games as hystorical references. Despite most of them being fictional, they still pretty much represent character and hystorical events from that time.
 
Yes, if you want others to agree with your point, you should provide a source to back it up.

Crazy idea, I know.

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Fucking WOW.

The fucking idiots with the non stop complaining about a black man in a fictional video game got us here. Your nonstop tears got the game censored.

The crybabies for this game are 1 million times worse than any woke mob.

Go Woke ... Go Broke.

Go Anti-woke.. Get censored and have no gore in a Samurai game. LMAO. im so mad
 
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god damn, dont be this retarded pls
explain how removing blood from a game that previously had it by the bucketload, is not censorship.

Thats without even mentioning the now indestructible objects.

ill wait for your brilliant response.

Imagine if NPC's didn't bleed when you shot them in GTA6.... Because a chunk of people were upset you play as a Latina woman. Thats the exact equivalent of whats happening here. And we have very intelligent people like you in here celebrating the shit.
 

Topher

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are we crazy ? did ppl really lost touch with reality ? thinking this in censorship ? WTF

Ubisoft is obviously doing this on their own because of the response from the Japanese government. I think there needs to be a distinction between a change a company like Ubisoft puts in place themselves and a situation where a government forces them to make the change. This was Ubisoft's choice.

explain how removing blood from a game that previously had it by the bucketload, is not censorship.

Because they were not forced to remove it. If Japan's government forced this change then that would be censorship. We have plenty of examples of censorship in China to compare this to and it is simply not the same.
 
Fucking WOW.

The fucking idiots with the non stop complaining about a black man in a fictional video game got us here. Your nonstop tears got the game censored.

The crybabies for this game are 1 million times worse than any woke mob.

Go Woke ... Go Broke.

Go Anti-woke.. Get censored and have no gore in a Samurai game. LMAO. im so mad
Nope. The woke crowd caused this by trying to push their bullshit mental issues on others. Now we just retaliate by being oversensitive about things we actually don't give a shit about just to fuck with them.
 

poodaddy

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As someone who will absolutely never buy an Assassin's Creed game again and just sees this drama from the outside, this is peak comedy.

People who like shit games VS woke idiots: FIGHT!

Legit curious how this will sell though. I'm sure the Ass Creed IP still carries a lot of weight, so I wonder if it'll move copies based on that alone. The game itself seems terribly written even by Ubishit standards, and of course it's glitchy as all hell but all their games are. I sincerely hope it doesn't move the needle for Ubi and they go under as a result, but I have a feeling it'll do ok, unfortunately. Quite a shame that.
 

Lokaum D+

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explain how removing blood from a game that previously had it by the bucketload, is not censorship.

Thats without even mentioning the now indestructible objects.

ill wait for your brilliant response.

Imagine if NPC's didn't bleed when you shot them in GTA6.... Because a chunk of people were upset you play as a Latina woman. Thats the exact equivalent of whats happening here. And we have very intelligent people like you in here celebrating the shit.
they CHOSE to do this, this is Ubisoft's choice, they are not been forced by players or governments, they will not be punished if they leave things as they are, now, what happens with games in the Middle East is censorship, because developers are forced by government laws to remove "offensive" content in order to do business in those countries.

If the Japanese government come forth and say it for them to "remove or else", them i ll agree that is censorship, until then this is just Ubisoft damage control.

I hope you are satisfied with my brilliant response that i call common sense.
 
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Because they were not forced to remove it. If Japan's government forced this change then that would be censorship. We have plenty of examples of censorship in China to compare this to and it is simply not the same.
The people in that video said "this game may cause real world vandalism to the shrines", Ubisoft had to act.
Nope. The woke crowd caused this by trying to push their bullshit mental issues on others. Now we just retaliate by being oversensitive about things we actually don't give a shit about just to fuck with them.
How about just not buy the damn game, so regular people like me can enjoy a goddamn Samurai game with blood in it? You're guilty of the exact same stuff you accuse them of.
What in the world does Yasuke being black have to do with Japan being upset over the ability to desecrate their shrines in a video game?
"Japan" is not upset about destroying shrines in a video game. It's a few people in their government. Don't paint this brush on the entire country.

And Yasuke being black is what caused the whole outrage and hysteria and garnered so much attention in the first place. None of this happens if its 2 Japanese characters.
 

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they CHOSE to do this, this is Ubisoft's choice, they are not been forced by players or governments, they will not be punished if they leave things as they are, now, what happens with games in the Middle East is censorship, because developers are forced by government laws to remove "offensive" content in order to do business in those countries.

If the Japanese government come forth and say it for them to "remove or else", them i ll agree that is censorship, until then this is just Ubisoft damage control.

I hope you are satisfied with my brilliant response that i call common sense.
Brilliant response!

Im sure Ubisoft woke up, literally today, and said, lets purposely make our game worse by removing blood!

Im sure nothing led up to the decision to do that.

When government officials come out and say, "Your game will incite real world vandalism/ maybe even Violence".. You have to act, because if you don't.. You'll probably be.. you guessed it... censored. Ubisoft acted because they had to. Before the government made them.

And lets just say you're right. Lets say Its not technically censorship... Its still a decision they made because of the outrageous backlash they received over the color of Yasuke's skin. it sucks.

Anyways, theres no point continuing this argument because you have already picked a side.

enjoy your day, all the best.
 

Topher

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The people in that video said "this game may cause real world vandalism to the shrines", Ubisoft had to act.

No....they didn't. The change was voluntary and not compelled. There is a big difference.

"Japan" is not upset about destroying shrines in a video game. It's a few people in their government. Don't paint this brush on the entire country.

I really got to spell out that I am not referring to the entire damn country of Japan to you? Good grief.

And Yasuke being black is what caused the whole outrage and hysteria and garnered so much attention in the first place. None of this happens if its 2 Japanese characters.

If you could go around and trash shrines in Ghost of Tsushima then I'm pretty certain the "few people in the government of Japan that are offended by Shadows" (accurate enough?) would not be happy about it. Of course....I can't know that for sure. Neither can you.
 
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Lokaum D+

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Brilliant response!

Im sure Ubisoft woke up, literally today, and said, lets purposely make our game worse by removing blood!

Im sure nothing led up to the decision to do that.

When government officials come out and say, "Your game will incite real world vandalism/ maybe even Violence".. You have to act, because if you don't.. You'll probably be.. you guessed it... censored. Ubisoft acted because they had to. Before the government made them.

And lets just say you're right. Lets say Its not technically censorship... Its still a decision they made because of the outrageous backlash they received over the color of Yasuke's skin. it sucks.

Anyways, theres no point continuing this argument because you have already picked a side.

enjoy your day, all the best.
man, it must be sad to be you, all the best for you too, you sure need.
 

Topher

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When government officials come out and say, "Your game will incite real world vandalism/ maybe even Violence".. You have to act, because if you don't.. You'll probably be.. you guessed it... censored. Ubisoft acted because they had to. Before the government made them.

When was censorship threatened?
 

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No....they didn't. The change was voluntary and not compelled. There is a big difference.
Bruh. im not making this up. they literally said they fear this game may encourage real world vandalism.

I fear that allowing players to attack and destroy real-world locations in the game without permission could encourage similar behavior in real life. Shrine officials and local residents are also worried about this."

Prime Minister Ishiba then responded:

How to address this legally is something we need to discuss"

Ubisoft went ahead and removed the blood, and made the shrines invincible....

THAT is essentially a threat of censorship.
 
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AJUMP23

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I killed the POPE in an assassins creed game and no one cared. I am a christian and I did not care that I had to fight the pope, or that Pieces of EDEN had to do with the fall of man. I think it is silly to get upset over a game, but UBI did it to themselves.
 

Topher

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Bruh. im not making this up. they literally said they fear this game may encourage real world vandalism.



Prime Minister Ishiba then responded:



Ubisoft went ahead and removed the blood.

THAT is essentially a threat of censorship.

Politicians can say all kinds of shit my man. Greenland, USA....any day now, amiright? We will just have to disagree on this as we do most things, it would seem.
 
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Lokaum D+

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Bruh. im not making this up. they literally said they fear this game may encourage real world vandalism.

I fear that allowing players to attack and destroy real-world locations in the game without permission could encourage similar behavior in real life. Shrine officials and local residents are also worried about this."

Prime Minister Ishiba then responded:

How to address this legally is something we need to discuss"

Ubisoft went ahead and removed the blood, and made the shrines invincible....

THAT is essentially a threat of censorship.
you forgot this part

While Masaki Ogushi (Vice Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry) responded that government agencies will work together to handle matters “IF the shrine seeks consultation,”, that again is a big if, and anyway, in a work of artistic expression Ubisoft would probably be clear legally to use the shrine anyway under the Constitution of Japan.
 
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Killer8

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Let's not be dense here: if the game was outright banned in Japan then people would be celebrating. Why else do you think so much noise has been made about muh shrines, if not to provoke some sort of reaction from the government?

We've long since passed the era of "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" and have since descended into full blown sowing the destruction of your ideological opponents.

If the game was banned today, Grummz on Twitter wouldn't be sitting there thinking "what a huge loss for creative freedom, I feel for all the people that worked on the game" - he'd be thinking "ha! fuck you Ubisoft! That's for putting a n****r in my game!"
 

ManaByte

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Can one be more of a bad faith actor than this guy? Nobody mentioned Thomas Lockley beside him. Not even worth arguing with a troll.

And not just Jesuit diaries/letters, there are Japanese chronicles mentioning him as well.

I bet his X feed is nothing but three or four specific accounts right now.
 

Lokaum D+

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I killed the POPE in an assassins creed game and no one cared. I am a christian and I did not care that I had to fight the pope, or that Pieces of EDEN had to do with the fall of man. I think it is silly to get upset over a game, but UBI did it to themselves.
tbf the holy catholic church killed their fair share of innocent ppl thorough the history, a few popes killed in a video game ll never balance this scale
 
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Connxtion

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A can understand damaging shrines but removing blood from characters in a game where you slash folk to death seems a bit stupid.

Immersion breaking I may add. (Hack one guy blood everywhere turn, hack another guy. Nothing because it’s an unarmed NPC who got in the road)
 

AJUMP23

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tbf the holy catholic church killed their fair share of innocent ppl thorough the history, a few popes killed in a video game ll never balance this scale
I agree the Catholic church has been awful. They had their own armies and were more powerful than nations at points.
 

GudOlRub

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I killed the POPE in an assassins creed game and no one cared. I am a christian and I did not care that I had to fight the pope, or that Pieces of EDEN had to do with the fall of man. I think it is silly to get upset over a game, but UBI did it to themselves.
You didn't though. Cesare kills Rodrigo with a poisoned apple. Ubi made it so that it happened according to the myth that the pope died that way.
Ezio only gives Rodrigo his last rites.

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This is still censorship, whether Ubi was forced to or not. When Walmart sold CD’s, it was their policy to censor vulgar language. They weren’t forced to, it was their choice, but it was still censorship.


explain how removing blood from a game that previously had it by the bucketload, is not censorship.

The blood is still there and there’s still “bucketloads” of gore, just not when you attack civilian NPC’s.

Thats without even mentioning the now indestructible objects.

ill wait for your brilliant response.

Imagine if NPC's didn't bleed when you shot them in GTA6.... Because a chunk of people were upset you play as a Latina woman. Thats the exact equivalent of whats happening here. And we have very intelligent people like you in here celebrating the shit.

That’s not equivalent at all. The charm of GTA gameplay is how random and chaotic it is. It’s not comparable to attacking innocents in Assassins Creed, which is something you’re punished for doing.
 
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c'mon, making some fucking furniture unbreakable and ppl bloodless is not censorship, you guys really need to look out into the real world.

It's a slippery slope dude

Ubisoft is obviously doing this on their own because of the response from the Japanese government. I think there needs to be a distinction between a change a company like Ubisoft puts in place themselves and a situation where a government forces them to make the change. This was Ubisoft's choice.



Because they were not forced to remove it. If Japan's government forced this change then that would be censorship. We have plenty of examples of censorship in China to compare this to and it is simply not the same.

The Japanese government put the screws to them, making it clear that things would not go well and threatening litigation if the elements they disliked weren't changed. Just because Ubisoft "willingly" acquiesced to their demands before actual legal action was take doesn't mean it not censorship.

Don't pretend governments can't strongarm and circumvent legal means to get what they want.

In an ideal world Ubi would have stood up for themselves, and defended their boneheaded oversights, for the greater moral good. But that wouldn't have made financial sense at the best of times, let alone right now.
 

Topher

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It's a slippery slope dude



The Japanese government put the screws to them, making it clear that things would not go well and threatening litigation if the elements they disliked weren't changed. Just because Ubisoft "willingly" acquiesced to their demands before actual legal action was take doesn't mean it not censorship.

Don't pretend governments can't strongarm and circumvent legal means to get what they want.

In an ideal world Ubi would have stood up for themselves, and defended their boneheaded oversights, for the greater moral good. But that wouldn't have made financial sense at the best of times, let alone right now.

Don't pretend politicians don't make empty threats either then. I agree with you that Ubisoft should have stood up for themselves, but this was a PR battle they surrendered to. Nothing more.
 
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