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[Kvally]

Day one. Whenever that is.

 

[TheRaidenPT]

Man I love my Dualsense, but I hate some games on the PC don’t have support for the buttons.

Therefore I always keep an up to date Xbox controller in the side, I was tempted to buy an Elite controller after upgrading to the DS Edge…

But knowing this I’ll wait

 

[Mattyp]

But Xbox fans have been saying for a decade that AA batteries are far better than rechargeable internal batteries.

Is this no longer the case?

I still do not want internal batteries I have a dozen cooked Sony controllers that need new batteries.

This seems detachable unlike those at least.

 

[Radical_3d]

Fun fact, in French a "sébile" is the cup beggars use to collect money.

Fun fact, in Spanish more or less too.

Spoiler: In Spanish

Amigos sevillanos, es broma. No os cabreéis.

 

[RafterXL]

Whatever people think about Microsoft, this is great news. It means we will finally get a controller that has all the Edge bells and whistles but actually natively supports the PC.

The Dualsense Edge is the best controller on the market, and the Elite 2... is not. Microsoft playing catch up in this area in 2025 is indicative of Microsoft overall.

Not even close. I love my Edge, hell I have 3 of them, but for every positive there is a negative that keeps the Elite being better. The battery life is abysmal for one, I can use my Elite 2 for a month on a single charge, my Edge needs to be charged every session, and often times I'll have to swap them out while playing. They also suck ass on PC because Sony can't bother to support them, so you either have to use them wired or you get none of the benefits.

People with symmetrical hands won the console war. Get over it, mutant.

The console war is for losers. More people use asymmetrical controllers than symmetrical overall and it's not even close.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Please let me turn the haptic triggers off. I hate that shit.

 

[Brucey]

Next gen Xbox controller will be compatible with Next gen Xbox?

Maybe this is the next generation Xbox. Use it to stream or play on pc.

 

[lh032]

looks like xbox is really serious about err...we are all xbox

 

[simpatico]

Never been the case.

I there's not been a single console I've ever owned where I've only just had one controller.

$70 solution to a $9 problem. Hats off sir.

 

[Schachtier]

Im using the 360 controller on my pc and its still the best one out there.

 

[TrebleShot]

You can go through hundreds of controllers and end up back where you started.
Ive gone full circle to the elite series 2.

Its basic and it works very well.

Third party ones are great in their own right, but they always have some concession or look like ass.

Dualsense is the best for me but the Elite Series 2 Is what I am enjoying on PC atm.

 

[simpatico]

Once an Elite Xbox controller gets good word of mouth, I'm down to check it out. Assume the battery is replaceable without prying the shell apart with plastic shims and pentalobe drivers. Right now I'm on the longest running controller of my life. An Xbone controller from the launch window. No drift, no stuck buttons, no double inputs. The texture on the sticks has been smoothed out for years, I just can't bring myself to replace the old girl. Probably deserves a spot in the Smithsonian for somehow accidentally lasting this long. Typically I have to reload once per gen. 8bitdo will get a strong look when she does croak.

 

[Pasta la Vista]

Yeah nothing like knowing that when the battery dies, the controller is just fucked. Who wants to just switch out Eneloops once a week when you could, instead, have to set the controller on a charging dock every time you finish playing to have three and a half hours of charge for the next gaming session.

Yes, the modern era.....quite glorious indeed.

You could just you know, plug it in using a usb cable so you can continue to play while it charges, like most normal people do.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Xbox did have the best battery solution. You could either use plain batteries, or get that charge kit. Once you store your system you can take those out, or replace if needed. The only downside to this is that you have to buy the kit, or stick with batteries. My Xbox controller charge also lasts longer than my DualSense.

Yeah but you have to tether them to your console to charge them. I've got AA eneloop set up from over a decade ago. Rechargable AA is the best of both worlds.My controllers have never known the confines of a cradle or a leash. They're free to go as they please. You should consider freeing your controllers from the leash and charging pen. It's 2025 after all.

How are PS3 archivists doing with their internal batteries? Has anyone checked on them recently? Been a few years, but last time I checked virtually ALL of the dual shock 3s on earth had dead, unrecoverable batteries.

My DS3 work fine. I had my PS3 hooked up last xmas.

But I can see why replacable batteries is better for preservation. They will technically always work.

 

[PixelatedBeast]

Microsoft is 5-10 years late to the party. If I'm not mistaken, wasnt the big new feature of this generations new Xbox controller a share button?

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Next gen Xbox controller will be compatible with Next gen Xbox?

PC is their priority now, this is very much a next-gen PC controller

 

[skit_data]

I sometimes like the haptics depending on the game but always shut off the triggers, hate those

I keep the triggers resistance off but I've found one very particular use:
In GT7 it's great to have a slight resistance in order to smoothly accelerate out of corners on low gears

 

[RafterXL]

Microsoft is 5-10 years late to the party. If I'm not mistaken, wasnt the big new feature of this generations new Xbox controller a share button?

Imagine being Sony, having a 5 year head start and Microsoft takes your lunch money because you refused to support the biggest platform in gaming. Microsoft will be late to the party and still make a killing because Sony refuses to make the controllers 100% PC compatible.

 

[Roberts]

I would rather they come up with something new and it is not a gimmick. During my PS5 time I had most of the features off, because I just found them more distracting than anything. Gyro would be nice though for certain games that could utilise it well.

Just make a controller that feels sturdy and sits well in my hands, like Elite 2 does. Dualsense feels like cheap plastic comparably.

 

[poodaddy]

You could just you know, plug it in using a usb cable so you can continue to play while it charges, like most normal people do.

Wait, I thought we were supposed to reveling in the glory that is the modern era, now we're plugging it back in again? We NES now?
Look, it's an interesting suggestion, but check this one out: I could also just....pop out the Eneloops that I have around thirty spare of and pop some new ones in, then pop the old ones in the Eneloop charger right next to the entertainment center. Less than a minute, no cords, no dock.... gloriously modern.

And yes, a bit Fisher Price, but still my favorite solution

 

[amigastar]

I've been waiting for this controller since i've tried the Dualsense.

 

[Naked Lunch]

I will immediately turn off haptic, rumble, whatever - its all useless shit.
I am hoping they can correct the ultra clicky dpad.
The sticks, triggers, bumpers, buttons - all already perfect.

Xbox is still the best controller on the market by miles - and is the reason I buy multiplats on Xbox and PC over all others.

 

[poodaddy]

So the battery gets fucked, maybe 7-8 years down the line. You're then incapable of using a screwdriver to then switch out the battery for a brand new one because...?

Doesn't sound very modern and elegant to me boss, I thought that was the whole point of this venture? Now we're popping out screwdrivers and digging into shit?

Nah, gimme the Eneloop, pop em out and in to a charger, pop the charged ones out and into a device; done. No cords, no tools, quick, efficient, gloriously modern, with only a tiny lil dash of Fisher Price added in, and hey, who doesn't wanna remember those fantastic little Chinese laser guns we had as kids that would make seven different noises, light up, get your dad to hit you if you played with it too much, and then die after 14 minutes of play and need a new battery, getting you yelled at in the backseat about how all the batteries either go into your toys or your Gameboy.....Hell, makes me downright nostalgic.

 

[Aguero9320]

Disappointing news about the battery, but Microsoft always makes the best controllers, so looking forward to hearing more about this.

 

[damidu]

You can go through hundreds of controllers and end up back where you started.
Ive gone full circle to the elite series 2.

Its basic and it works very well.

Third party ones are great in their own right, but they always have some concession or look like ass.

Dualsense is the best for me but the Elite Series 2 Is what I am enjoying on PC atm.

that elite2 is a ticking time bomb, pretty much the worst build quality of any peripheral out there.
only thing "elite" about it, is the price.

 

[Cakeboxer]

RIP AA, at least it's swappable.

 

[damidu]

also makes me wonder how they'll price this sebile thing.

at the end this is the company that is selling basically 20 y.o old controller for only $10 cheaper than dualsense, while missing haptics, triggers, gyro, mic, speaker, touchpad and a frickin BATTERY!

get ready for the some serious xbox tax

 

[phant0m]

No hall effect no buy

Seriously. How can both Soony and MS charge 70+ for a controller that doesn’t even have Hall sticks

 

[SkylineRKR]

Yeah they should go hall. For the first time ever I had to replace my launch controller, after about 4 years of use. Its just scummy at this point. These things will eventually drift outside of warranty due to its technology and it has nothing to do with being cautious or not.

Wait, I thought we were supposed to reveling in the glory that is the modern era, now we're plugging it back in again? We NES now?
Look, it's an interesting suggestion, but check this one out: I could also just....pop out the Eneloops that have around thirty spare of and pop some new ones in, then pop the old ones in the Eneloop charger right next to the enter center. Less than a minute, no cords, no dock.... gloriously modern.

And yes, a bit Fisher Price, but still my favorite solution

I usually plug the usb cord in the controller when its empty. The cable provided with the Xbox charge kit is long enough and works with PS5 also. Personally I don't want to hassle with batteries at all. Pretty much since the original GB.

 

[hinch7]

I like the haptics, but back buttons are so much accessible than RB,LB,RT,LT,L3 AND R3 to me.


More than likely. Even though 8bitdo has already proven they can be added cheaply.

Hard to go back once you get used to them. Its way faster and more comfortable using your other fingers for things like sprint, dodge etc.

Baffles me that we're still getting controllers with no back buttons/paddles. That should've been bundled in with the PS5 Pro.

I guess they'll find ways to get people to shell out $200 for a 'pro' controller.

 

[Topher]

Hard to go back once you get used to them. Its way faster and more comfortable using your other fingers for things like sprint, dodge etc.

Baffles me that we're still getting controllers with no back buttons/paddles. That should've been bundled in with the PS5 Pro.

I guess they'll find ways to get people to shell out $200 for a 'pro' controller.

People like me. I'm a sucker for the things.

 

[SplunkyMunkey]

Since xbox controller will be like duelsense. Makes me wonder how far sony can go with there controllers can only do so much to them.. makes me wonder if there gonna have lcd screens next that u can customization on the go or like a map for fps games and shows u the end results while the main screen loads to the next

 

[SweetTooth]

Am I the only one who thinks controller vibration takes me out of immersion, I don't want to be constantly reminded that I am sitting in a room playing a game.

 

[Z O N E]

Only thing I care about is if Microsoft will put Hall Effect sticks in their controller...

Cause MS/Sony/Nintendo need to get their heads out of their asses.

To me, THAT'S the real game changer.

 

[GHG]

Doesn't sound very modern and elegant to me boss, I thought that was the whole point of this venture? Now we're popping out screwdrivers and digging into shit?

Nah, gimme the Eneloop, pop em out and in to a charger, pop the charged ones out and into a device; done. No cords, no tools, quick, efficient, gloriously modern, with only a tiny lil dash of Fisher Price added in, and hey, who doesn't wanna remember those fantastic little Chinese laser guns we had as kids that would make seven different noises, light up, get your dad to hit you if you played with it too much, and then die after 14 minutes of play and need a new battery, getting you yelled at in the backseat about how all the batteries either go into your toys or your Gameboy.....Hell, makes me downright nostalgic.

So let me get this straight, you're happy to open up the back of your controller every time your battery dies, but you're not happy to have to potentially take a screwdriver to the controller once every decade?

I'm not seeing the logic here.

$70 solution to a $9 problem. Hats off sir.

Convenience has a price. When I used to use Xbox controllers I'd purchase a play and charge kit for all of them.

And no, I've never once purchased a controller for $70. You can frequently get modern controllers on sale for 30% off.

 

[simpatico]

Convenience has a price. When I used to use Xbox controllers I'd purchase a play and charge kit for all of them.

And no, I've never once purchased a controller for $70. You can frequently get modern controllers on sale for 30% off.

Sounds like we're both just gnats to the guy who orders a case of Dual Senses each month and just busts open a new one rather than dealing with plebian USB cables.

 

[poodaddy]

So let me get this straight, you're happy to open up the back of your controller every time your battery dies, but you're not happy to have to potentially take a screwdriver to the controller once every decade?

I'm not seeing the logic here.



Convenience has a price. When I used to use Xbox controllers I'd purchase a play and charge kit for all of them.

And no, I've never once purchased a controller for $70. You can frequently get modern controllers on sale for 30% off.

So wait, you're happy to take a screwdriver and dig into a controller to replace a battery but it's too much to pop some new batteries into the back once a week? I'm not seeing the logic here.

Look man, we can go back and forth on this all day but we just see it differently, and neither of us are wrong, we just have different opinions. I stated mine, you stated yours, no need to go further, as we're not gonna agree on this and it's not that serious.

 

[GHG]

So wait, you're happy to take a screwdriver and dig into a controller to replace a battery but it's too much to pop some new batteries into the back once a week? I'm not seeing the logic here.

You do that once a week. I've had to take a screwdriver to one of my controllers once in 15 years (it was a PS3 controller, all other controllers I have in my rotation still hold adequate charge).

Look man, we can go back and forth on this all day but we just see it differently, and neither of us are wrong, we just have different opinions. I stated mine, you stated yours, no need to go further, as we're not gonna agree on this and it's not that serious.

It's not about whether it's "serious" or not, I find it hard to believe there are many people who still want to be faffing around with AA batteries on a regular basis in 2025.

Its the worst thing about the quest 3 controllers and it's the worst thing about modern Xbox controllers. Get with the times.

Sounds like we're both just gnats to the guy who orders a case of Dual Senses each month and just busts open a new one rather than dealing with plebian USB cables.

Never had to purchase a whole new controller because of the battery. Sorry to burst your bubble. You're far more likely to have stick drift issues on modern controllers than you are to have a battery have discharge issues.

 

[poodaddy]

Get with the times.

You do you, I'll do me.

 

[poppabk]

No Hall Effect sticks? Then you can fuck off.
Can anyone even explain why we have none hall effect controllers other than to increase the churn rate of controllers dying?

 

[Durin]

More interested to see what they do with the haptics that makes their controller different from the PS5.

I do like the adaptive triggers on certain games, and if more controllers could adopt that maybe we'd get a new standard.

Just want the battery life to be good, because that's what I want the PS6 controller to improve on.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Wasn't this the pad that was meant to ship with the Brooklyn Series X model ?

 

[sainraja]

I don't like the two tone design being shown but everything else sounds good.

 

[sainraja]

Indeed.

Can't wait to turn any of that haptics bullshit off, if present.

Then don't buy this controller — you won't need to worry about turning them "off". Keep using the XONE | SX controller.
You don't need to be this dedicated to the cause... where you are hating on features that were introduced elsewhere first.

Xbox getting them, or some variation of them, is a good thing.

 

[GHG]

You do you, I'll do me.

Well based on what they have decided to do with their next controller it looks like they are finally joining the rest of the industry, so you'll no longer be able to do you.

 

[adamsapple]

Then don't buy this controller — you won't need to worry about turning them "off". Keep using the XONE | SX controller.
Don't need to be sooo dedicated to hating on features that may have been introduced elsewhere first.

Xbox getting them, or some variation of them, is a good thing.

The implication is that if this is a part of the standard next machine.

Why would I go out of the way to buy it now.

Also multiple other users have said the same thing so I'm far from an outlier in this topic.

 

[poppabk]

It's not about whether it's "serious" or not, I find it hard to believe there are many people who still want to be faffing around with AA batteries on a regular basis in 2025.

Its the worst thing about the quest 3 controllers and it's the worst thing about modern Xbox controllers. Get with the times.

Err that would be a +1 from me. Well I'm not sure about what the 'faf' is in taking some AA batteries out and putting new ones in.
Get with the times is not a great rallying call, when the 'times' is using sealed in batteries to accelerate device obscelecence. I only change my phone nowadays because the battery has deteriorated to much and replacing it risks killing the device.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Ah yes, a new controller will definitely save Xbox!

They should have code named it Senile to reflect the state of Xbox management

Also symmetric thumb sticks is better that's why I will always prefer Sony layout to Nintendo layout

 

[VanCityGamer]

Ah yes, a new controller will definitely save Xbox!

They should have code named it Senile to reflect the state of Xbox management

Also symmetric thumb sticks is better that's why I will always prefer Sony layout to Nintendo layout

What a dumb comment. Not every thing they do is supposed to “save” Xbox.

 

[DKPOWPOW]

Looks nice, except the D-Pad. Amazing how every single console manufacturer just can't get that right. I know Sony will never change, but M$ had it right back when they made the S Controller on the OG Xbox.

Surprisingly they finally added an accelerometer... Are any Xbox games gonna use this or is it just for phone games?