shinra-bansho
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NPD May 2012 Sales Results [Up4: Max Payne 3, Dragon's Dogma, Ghost Recon]
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flyinpiranha
Member
For me personally I don't pay $59.99 for games anymore. The only one that I might is GTA V.
Max Payne? This was a hot ticket ... over 8 years ago. I don't even think current younger gamers know what this is. Plus, $60? No thanks.
Dragons Dogma? Looks awesome, for $40.
Vita? I'd buy one, for $200 (include mem and game)
360? I'd probably replace my Elite (move it to a bedroom for Netflix) with a new Slim if it was cheaper
PS3? Sold mine, nothing interests but one game and I'll manage
Wii? Xenoblade is still making me smile but nothing, and I mean NOTHING on that system (maybe DQX) interests me anymore
For how old the hardware is I can't bring myself to buy new games at $60 anymore unless it's a promised iteration of a game I know I'll enjoy.
Was anything else expected? I mean honestly? PS3 tries Move and 360 pushes Kinect but then support for both fell off the earth and they just expect people to buy these things?
I'm pretty uninterested in console gaming at this point. It's time to beef up my PC.
This is a technology driven hobby just as much as it is a "fun" hobby. My interest with current consoles has waned and for all the games I miss this last year of the generation I'll just buy their remakes for cheaper on the next gen systems.
Max Payne? This was a hot ticket ... over 8 years ago. I don't even think current younger gamers know what this is. Plus, $60? No thanks.
Dragons Dogma? Looks awesome, for $40.
Vita? I'd buy one, for $200 (include mem and game)
360? I'd probably replace my Elite (move it to a bedroom for Netflix) with a new Slim if it was cheaper
PS3? Sold mine, nothing interests but one game and I'll manage
Wii? Xenoblade is still making me smile but nothing, and I mean NOTHING on that system (maybe DQX) interests me anymore
For how old the hardware is I can't bring myself to buy new games at $60 anymore unless it's a promised iteration of a game I know I'll enjoy.
Was anything else expected? I mean honestly? PS3 tries Move and 360 pushes Kinect but then support for both fell off the earth and they just expect people to buy these things?
I'm pretty uninterested in console gaming at this point. It's time to beef up my PC.
This is a technology driven hobby just as much as it is a "fun" hobby. My interest with current consoles has waned and for all the games I miss this last year of the generation I'll just buy their remakes for cheaper on the next gen systems.
slaughterking
Member
MH tri will easily outsell DD. DD may not even sell as much as Dark Souls. Fucking Ace Attorney is probably a better seller.It's kind of shocking. What was Capcom even thinking when they started their most ambitious project to date.
MightyHedgehog
Member
This is right, I think, in general, but the middle class consumer just shifted more of their gaming time and money behind their most commonly-used devices, PC or mobile. The developer of those titles has to go somewhere else than consoles. It's the dedicated gaming platform industry that is under threat due to a whole lot of feet dragging from platform holders that keeps third parties from employing the pricing strategies and models everyone would be pursuing in a more healthily competitive market, as they already do in the various PC ecosystems and mobile markets.
grimshawish, I've no idea what your reply is in that post.
Lostconfused
Member
Nope. Amazon.ca is just a horrible place to buy games.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
DD didn't get a lot of positive reviews which is sort of vital for a new IP; it's sitting at 78 on Metacritic. The 1.5 million WW sales projection they had for the game wasn't that ambitious either, so seeing these poor sales should be extremely disappointing for them.
Personally, I feel the reviews didn't really do the game justice. I don't think it will get a sequel; it's a critical and commercial failure.
Personally, I feel the reviews didn't really do the game justice. I don't think it will get a sequel; it's a critical and commercial failure.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
This! There are too many players for the market, IMO. I truly believe there will only be room for one dedicated handheld going forward. Now let's all argue bitterly over who should drop out.
I often wonder, with all the hardware costs and losses, might it not be easier and less stressful for someone like Sony to do third party?
Baconsammy
Banned
The thought of Sony having to dumb down their games to run on Nintendo hardware is depressing me. Stop. I'd love to see my 3DS games on a handheld as capable as the Vita. Yes, without the 3D gimmick.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Dragon's Dogma did terribly bad
Nintendo reported that 70% of the 3DS users purchased an average of 5 eShop titles, so I wouldn't be so certain of that.
CadetMahoney
Member
pretty much
Dragons Dogma: 92k
RE:Operation Raccoon City: 500+k
I can see why other games like Dead Space are going all bro shooter co-op shit.
Graphics Horse
Member
lol not quite...
People in the US who buy eShop titles buy an average of 5.
70% is total US who have connected to the internet.
Sammy Samusu
Member
9.) Dragon's Dogma (360, PS3) Capcom - 92K
Less than Monster Hunter 3, and on two platforms. Serves you well, Crapcom.
Less than Monster Hunter 3, and on two platforms. Serves you well, Crapcom.
Sorry DD fans, but this game WILL NAWT replace MH!
fastford58
Member
True, but my wallymart, future shop and all the other stores in my town were sold out. Same for my immediate surrounding towns. That was the only reason I went to amazon to get it. Stores couldn't tell me when stock was coming in.
582k to be exact
Resident Evil ORC > max payne 3 + dradon dogma combined npd sales
RE 6 will sell a lot it seems
that is true and sad, maybe thats the reason why I've been buying less games lately
Cygnus X-1
Member
Terrible month for everyone. Both hardware and software.
Jesus H. Christ. These are dark days.
You can say that but it doesn't mean it's in any way profitable. Consider PS3 and 360 started at about double previous console gens also the cheaper you get the slower the price reduces.
Pachterballs
Banned
Resident evil is a top tier franchise though.
However with thismetricofgreat games bombing while shitty ones flourish, Dmc is probably going to be a monster hit
DragonSworne
Banned
Port it to WiiU and get rid of the tearing and slowdowns.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
MP3's numbers aren't very good, or are they? I think it's the best shooter this generation. 
Father_Brain
Banned
Maybe. It wouldn't scale easily to 3DS, though, and I'm not convinced that Vita will look like a viable platform by the time a hypothetical DDP could be released (mid-to-late next year, assuming it's not already in development).
Pachterballs
Banned
um, PC+steam. that will be better than going to wiiU. 0 install base
AgentOtaku
Member
maaaan,
I ended up bailing on DD (loved the combat, didn't care for the world) but still think it deserves better than that
Agreed, though I say they were more incompetent at showing it off
GuitarAtomik
Member
I really hope Dragon' Dogma doesn't go portable :[
I do not nor ever will own a dedicated portable gaming device
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Time to kill the $60 price point.
who pays 60 dollars for games anymore
walking fiend
Member
So, from those 70%, people either have not bought an eShop game, and from those who have, they have bought on average 5?
Some thoughts:
- This chart doesn't include digital delivering sales
- No big consoles game this month Max Payne 3 unfortunately didn't catch too much attention.
- in the past 2 years we had two hyped R* games: Rdr and L.A. Noire. Max Payne just didn't had the same following. Without them sales would have been lower.
- No consoles price cuts: 360 and ps3 still cost a lot, people are waiting for price cuts.
- We are 6.5 years into this generation. We need some fresh games.
- The Crisis. I don't know how the situation in usa is, but in EU is getting harder and harder after 4 years it begun. It's normal to see the entertainment industry not reaching the heights of when the economy was good.
I'm sorry for dragon dogma but the demo surely hasn't helped.
- This chart doesn't include digital delivering sales
- No big consoles game this month Max Payne 3 unfortunately didn't catch too much attention.
- in the past 2 years we had two hyped R* games: Rdr and L.A. Noire. Max Payne just didn't had the same following. Without them sales would have been lower.
- No consoles price cuts: 360 and ps3 still cost a lot, people are waiting for price cuts.
- We are 6.5 years into this generation. We need some fresh games.
- The Crisis. I don't know how the situation in usa is, but in EU is getting harder and harder after 4 years it begun. It's normal to see the entertainment industry not reaching the heights of when the economy was good.
I'm sorry for dragon dogma but the demo surely hasn't helped.
Mr. B Natural
Member
Look at all those 40 dollar games on the npd...and all those old games that just got their price slashed.
The dumbest thing you can do when referring to top-heavy selling products would be to lower the initial sale price. Talk about undermining all that marketing money.
Father_Brain
Banned
The 5-eShop-purchase average is for the 70% of 3DS owners who have connected to the Internet, I believe.
Supposedly.
mugurumakensei
Member
Eh, most mobile games make very little. Moreover, it's not the platform holder's faults for the pricepoint. Gamers have only themselves to blame for price points of games. If they didn't only buy blockbuster, over-marketed games, games would be cheaper. As it is, the average game a typical gamer wants cost several tens of millions of dollars to develop and much more to market so $60 and dlc it is.
Look at the #1 seller for this month, and when COD comes out to see who.
That pricing model fails for 7-year old hardware. It needs to be there at launch.
iOS has no problems dealing with fragmentation, and even the PC does fine with far worse fragmentation. Running the same game at different resolutions/framerates would fix the fragmentation issue.
walking fiend
Member
isn't that really good for a handheld? in terms of iOS and considering average price of 3DS eShop games, I believe that will be equal to almost 15-20 iOS games in terms of revenue for almost 1 year?
This is probably one of the main reasons people buy consoles and not PCs; they are not fine with fragmentation, because most high end PC exclusive games look like shit on lower end devices; while there are console games that look very good, despite being comparable to those lower end PCs in terms of power.
mugurumakensei
Member
The pricing model as it is is there because it still costs quite a lot to develop and market a game. It's a symptom of the blockbuster AAA model for gaming. Publishers can't really afford not to initially launch a game at 60 dollars. Instead of taking 5 million units to get to profitability, it would take close to 7 million units which is an even more difficult number to achieve.
I only blame the gamer.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Well, their lineup this year is pretty bad really.
Two different statistics but it's very healthy. 70% are online, but of those who purchase eShop software (not the whole 70%) they purchase an average of 5.
Opus Angelorum
Member
It is, and they will pay for it come holidays.