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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
- Start date
Would love to see Killzone non-bundled numbers though.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I doubt that audience is gone.
They just won't be buying Nintendo this time around. I'm hoping they can be salvaged because I'm pretty sure they weren't just there and then gone. Some might be. I'm pretty sure more than a few of those people in old folks homes are dead now, but I'm pretty sure there is overlap between those early Wii buyers, and the late buying casual owners of the PS2.
But no seriously given similar timeframes PS3/360 are only about what? 10 million units ahead of the PS2 alone last gen in America? 15 million units? Acting like Wii's exponential growth is something that can be written off is folly. I hope some of them became dedicated gamers willing to buy dedicated hardware. Time will tell though. Again otherwise the cries at the end of this generation will not be "Marginal growth!" but "Home console market in freefall."
shinra-bansho
Member
Yes, I realise that NA includes more, but 300K for SCEA's other territories doesn't really fit proportionally well. It's a larger ratio than would be normal.
And the PS4 was like $1000 or something ridiculous in Brazil so basically sold nothing there.
Canada is usually about 10% of the US, so 100K, and I really can't see it having done 200K in Mexico and whatever other LA launch countries there were.
And the PS4 was like $1000 or something ridiculous in Brazil so basically sold nothing there.
Canada is usually about 10% of the US, so 100K, and I really can't see it having done 200K in Mexico and whatever other LA launch countries there were.
Pretty sure you made an error but Pokemon was in October.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Dead Rising 3 well on the way to 1.2 million.
Why do people continually act like Canada and Mexico aren't real places?
It's actually 80 million, but looking at how the hw sales are dropping I'm guessing it'll have a poor 2014 as more users upgrade to PS4/Xbone. FPS fans seem to upgrading pretty quickly, nearly 15 % of COD sales at launch points towards much better figures for new IPs next year.
Why do people continually act like Canada and Mexico aren't real places?
It's actually 80 million, but looking at how the hw sales are dropping I'm guessing it'll have a poor 2014 as more users upgrade to PS4/Xbone. FPS fans seem to upgrading pretty quickly, nearly 15 % of COD sales at launch points towards much better figures for new IPs next year.
Sony is not playing around.
Nightengale
Member
I'll share an Asian perspective.
During the PS1 and PS2 generation, many Asian countries bought consoles because they were easily piratable and our markets here openly allows pirated goods.
So when the Ps3 generation came,many held back from buying new consoles at launch, hoping for there to be a similar pirate situation.
However, the failures of subsequent consoles post-360 to be Jailbroken to the level that it could be a grey market economy has shaped the perspective that the era of convenient pirated games on consoles are pretty much never coming back.
So demand is higher than the norm for Asia. Because buyers no longer expect that these consoles will ever be the same as they used to.
A couple thousand. Maybe 3 or 4 thousand.
theprodigy
Member
weeding out fanboys on here is a good thing at least
Manmademan
Member
where in that post you quoted do I use any figures, worldwide or otherwise? Those points are valid whether you're talking EU, US, or WW- it's about business strategy and market bubbles. raw numbers are irrelevant.
PS4's sold like hot bread in Mexico, everywhere I ask it's sold out until february "with luck".
I wasn't the only one then, heh.
As much as I've enjoyed SoRR, a new official SoR wouldn't go amiss.
Chobel
Member
Does it really matter? The people who got the bundle wanted the game, so even if it was not bundled they would get it.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
The social metrics stat is surprising given how hard the game is being pushed. I think it will be pushed harder than any launch game by far so I'd expect it to start doing better there.
I do agree that it won't be as huge a system seller for the Xbox One as people think. First, its available on the 360 and the PC and its not a particularly graphics intensive game so the 360 version will likely do most people fine. Second, I don't think it has COD/Halo level appeal because it is an online only game. A very significant number of people buy the big FPS titles for the campaigns and the lack of anything like one is going to hurt. My best guess is that it will boost Xbox One sales significantly only at launch week. The first real system seller exclusive for the Xbox One is Halo 5. That will cause a pretty decent surge in sales.
Mike Zhang
Member
Most China mainland gamers are waiting for HK/TW PS4. Sony of cause knows it...
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
You have been saying that for a long time lol, and yet....
Whoops, I fixed it, thanks. Too tired right now haha.
Yeah it could move some units but what's to stop consumers from getting on the other two platforms? Goes like this,
a) Hey dude just got TF.
b) Oh yeah, how is it?
a) It's great, you gotta get it.
b) You bought an XB1?
a) No, I bought it on 360.
b) Oh shit, I'll get it for that then.
So on and so forth.
The investment will be $60 instead of $560 if they're not ready to upgrade. Assuming they already have live.
It's quite a plausible scenario. I have no idea what's is actually going to happen. TF could sell shit tons on 360 and really not help XB1 enough.
It was my favorite genesis series....
CrichtonKicks
Member
All of those titles had approximately 20% attach rates. That's great.
origin exclusive
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I bought my PS4 yesterday in a best buy in the DF.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Try the rest of the world too. Crazy how people are in here are saying its a mistake for Sony to send out 500k units to Asia and every other market outside of the US/UK as if those people don't matter or whatever.
I'd say it had an impact on the mobile gaming market no?
Manmademan
Member
Given similar timeframes that's actually reasonable growth (10 million unit advantage would be a 20% growth), especially when you consider the PS3 and 360 (ps3 in particular) were selling at significantly higher price points in the middle of the largest economic collapse since the great depression.
personally I'm shocked they're ahead at ALL.
Chobel
Member
It's 1.1ish mil.
theprodigy
Member
...it continues selling badly?
Sushen
Member
I agree with this idea. Just like most franchises, the first one is a setup, and the full idea comes around the sequel, especially considering the timing of the release. Probably, that's why activision did the exclusive deal because titanfall 2 will be the actual main force.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Sorry, my reading comprehension has gone to shit. For some reason, I thought you were calling me asinine (which doesn't even make sense). Forget that comment.
Well yes, if you account for the 1 year difference, the market didn't grow much at all, but does that necessarily imply that it will start to decline? Can it not mean that the market size has reached stability and saturation of the accessible markets? (Not even being rhetorical, sort of actually asking you) I wouldn't ignore the Wii completely, but I feel like a great deal of the 100 million owners were people, who had no previous interest in console gaming, who purchased the system for games like Wii Sports, due to the motion control fad. I will admit I have no hard numbers to prove that, but I doubt those customers would materialize again this gen, regardless of what Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft did.
So when you say you see strong growth and then a free falling market, I say I see a stable market with an outlying data point. (again, this hinges on if you believe something like console gaming could ever be considered stable with such a flux of developing countries and shrinking markets)
Kenshin001
Member
I thought NPD doesn't count bundles.
And KZ bundle is for EU, not US.
it counts retailer bundles, not manu bundles
Probably 200k sales in Canada? O:
Chuck Norris
Banned
How?
Maybe not. CoD does really, really well not just because of the gameplay but also because of the aesthetic. It's very appealing to that dudebro demographic. I remember seeing some of them looking at Halo 3 a while back and the conversation included this gem: "I don't want to shoot stupid aliens; I want to shoot people."
Titanfall's heavy sci-fi vibe could be a turn-off for those dudebro types. I'm waiting eagerly to see how it does.
Incidentally, it's heavy sci-fi vibe is why I'm so much more excited for it than the next CoD or Battlefield.
Remember mechs are nerdy. They're not mechs. They're TITANS!
LOL
Good luck with that. Also with being an exclusive.
outunderthestars
Banned
Have you seen the Vita section at most stores? It is practically gone already.
SwiftDeath
Member
Not sure if it's mentioned but from Cream Sugars breakdown of multiplatform games I get roughly 23% more sold on PS4 on average hence PS4's numbers would be around 1118K in US
Plus the B2G1 sales on PS4 software. That was the main reason I bought a bunch of multiplats on PS4.
It was stupid of MS not to match that deal.
Well, that's the thing. If one friend is likely to have purchased TF first and is enthusiastic about it, they very may have purchased it for Xbone instead of 360. MS is going to push that game hard.