The journalist gets reprimanded and the GAF poster gets hunted down. Sony and MS I would wager can not disclose the numbers of their competitors. The NPD deals in information. It is their currency, it is their blood. They can't have it in the hands of people that aren't paying for it.
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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]
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Nightengale
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That'll be the day.
Baby steps, a thread where everyone's post at least proves that the OP was properly read-through, and not a 'lol headline/paragraph only, who cares about the asterisk' post.
Wedbush isn't NPD.
As for publishers or platform holders, got no idea how much info they're allowed to make public.
shinra-bansho
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I've been meaning to ask for forever but where is that gif from?
Nightengale
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I don't think publishers/platforms holders, in their PR, have ever quoted competitor figures, even though they have the report that states how much their numbers are. ( correct me if I'm wrong )
Sony/MS/Nintendo are all entitled to reveal their own product's figures as they wish, which will be more accurate than NPD. However, NPD works as a citation benchmark that proves their position in the market, since NPD validates their respective PR statements. Sony could've easily, 2 weeks back, said that they won September, but without NPD's analysis and report backing them, it's just hot air statement.
Sony/MS/Nintendo are all entitled to reveal their own product's figures as they wish, which will be more accurate than NPD. However, NPD works as a citation benchmark that proves their position in the market, since NPD validates their respective PR statements. Sony could've easily, 2 weeks back, said that they won September, but without NPD's analysis and report backing them, it's just hot air statement.
theprodigy
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but Microsoft gave 1st party software/total software numbers for Sony after December 2013 NPD
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Some people do, it's just a much smaller segment of the market than most people think it is.
Nightengale
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Some exclusives matter, but the Uncharteds, Halos, and Gran Turismos are a rarity, not the norm.
And you can't exactly release those games annually, because annualisation of said titles don't really help to expand your console base if they already bought it for the franchise early on, and annualisation just risk your IP's longevity.
Dragonborn
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So what happened guys? It seems I missed a lot.
wolfhowwl
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serversurfer
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So does that mean we can expect them to roughly double their YTD unit sales over Oct-Dec?
statham
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Bish banned evilore, a takeover is in process...
Nightengale
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creamsugar lost his source.
Aquamarine took on a 3-month self-imposed ban because of various reasons, contributed by some members of GAF not being able to come to a level-headed consensus of how to talk about leaks.
Dark times ahead for those who want leaks.
Mass Effect
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Well... fuck. That's just great.
And did creamsugar really lose access to NPD numbers?
And did creamsugar really lose access to NPD numbers?
shinra-bansho
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From memory Greenberg revealed both new system's tie ratios late last year via twitter.
Yes...
Well damn.
Did Greenberg have say anything about NPD since then? If i remember well, it was only because back then, tie ratio was in favor of the Xbox One, wasn't it?
Hmmm...
The site that subscribes to the NPD and posts numbers they are not supposed to gets reprimanded. The journalist working for Kotaku goes about his day.
Did Sony give those numbers out first? Maybe it was a mistake. Dunno. It doesn't happen often.
They (the source) gets in trouble. My initial post had somewhat of an error in it, I admit.
Hmmm... I don't think anything happens to the mouthpiece themselves if our previous leakers with names attached to them is anything to go by. But I wouldn't find it hard to believe that some pressure gets sent their way if the company wants to pursue and if they can they'll do their damndest to find some relation between the mouthpiece and the leaker that is their client. Considering Sprint knew my address I lived while I was attending college (My off campus address too!) and used that as a security question for my moms account, corporations can be scary.
If you want to do what you're theoretically talking about, do it. But do some more research on the risks you take.
Value proposition. It also helps against fence sitters.
Creamsugar wasn't the source himself?
Gal.
EdReedFan20
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That's 3 straight NPD threads (October, November, and December)!
.hodayathink
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I'd imagine that you'd be legally fine in terms of NDAs, but your source would end up in hot water if they could find them. And I don't know if they have any additional legal protections on their data, which is theoretically possible.
Girl. Aqua was a she.
Mass Effect
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Mass Effect
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AKA, the best and most interesting months of the year... Yeah this sucks.
Dragonborn
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It was only a matter of time
Well that's just terrible all around. The email idea wad great, don't know why otgers couldn't just with it... but definitely does feel like this gif is appropriate
Nightengale
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Because la viva humanity.
GAF is a better community than most places, but it's not as if we don't have our share of folks who don't read OP, drive-by trolls, people who say terrible things, ignorant people, people who thinks they're smarter than others without basis, idiots, etc.
Tldr; we're all terrible. /s
shinra-bansho
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It's whatever your heart desires.
I wonder when, if ever, the thread will return to more regularly scheduled programming rather than meta-discussion.
DustyVonEric
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Just read the last few pages of the predictions thread to catch up. If you have the stomach for it.
Such a damn shame.
LowEndTorque
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THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
well, there is one place left with numberzzz...
SeventhSon
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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
Thunder Monkey
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Spoiled entitled children not only screwed up our very very few sources of info, but also drove a terrific poster about batty.
Sorry Aqua. Enjoy your vaycay! Hope you come back, but if the stress is real, just don't give the wankers numbers. They can either get over it or get bent.
Seems not.
Dragonborn
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Goddamn, that's just awful. When Aquamarine herself is telling you that ir does help, how in the world can one come back and argue that it doesn't. Just blows my mind how dense some people can be. With that said, last thibg I'd want is any of the leakers getting in trouble.
Hydrargyrus
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This thread has been apocalyptic in all the ways.
What a lost with Aqua and Creamsougar's source...
What a lost with Aqua and Creamsougar's source...
Welfare
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Well, we could lose our diginity and use...
O fuck. And it was going to be the holidays, too!
CrankyKong
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i dont get it, what was so hard about her quote system?
you just click on the thing and then you get the stuff.
Once everyone got the hang of it, the email thing started to work really well. Anyone who asked were given the numbers in email tags rather than directed to search for the information themselves. You'd think that would make things easier.
I didn't know who Aquamarine was until last night. Apart from the leaks, she seemed really fun. People suck.
I didn't know who Aquamarine was until last night. Apart from the leaks, she seemed really fun. People suck.
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